[Boudica]

I replied to you then I thought It deserves to be a post of its own!
https://sinister.ly/Thread-Someone-asked...ah-is-real

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So yeah , It's your body do whatever you want with it , do yoga or pray 5 times a day in, think of God or meditate , be a good person or go to hell, you have a brain and you can think so... make your own decisions don't get brainwashed to believe in things , God rewards those who think and appreciate life...
Eghrae besma rabika makhalagh  to me means use your brain and study what's around you and exists!

Thanks for sharing your point brother. Well yours was a pure islamic view of the topic

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Hi Kurd, I understand your perspective on a fetus' soul. I have somewhat different beliefs around abortion, but I mostly mentioned abortion in relation to the ongoing arguments in the US about women's rights to have an abortion, and it's impact on the ownership of the woman's body. The idea is that because the woman cannot control whether or not she falls pregnant (there are many reasons unwanted/unintended pregnancies occur) they are being forced to undergo a rather traumatic experience with their bodies, with no say of their own. They will not be supported in this venture. None of the people enacting these laws will be paying for their medical bills, or child support. So one could argue the women's ownership of her body is diminished. This is the context that I was referring to.

You could also argue an intentionally pregnant woman has no control either, as you could say her body is owned by both her and the unborn child?

The point about the fetus is also a very good one to raise! It has even less ownership of it's body, especially during pregnancy of course.

That is very sad to hear.. I don't know could be the impact of a wild and unplanned sexual intercourse between both side without getting married. Marraige is a legal process and even from religion side the healthy way of a relationship. Under this legal document you can always have your rights covered and supports from both families.

In our cultural when a woman is pregnant not only her husband supports her .. All the family and relatives do. Because this process goes smoothly under a legal document and an  Islamic marriage contract that save both sides right. Even tho force the father to support the family.

Still, the problem is not with the fetus really. That fetus is a soul now and if abortion happens the mother will be likely a killer of her own unborn child. To fix this, the only one is looking for a real, clean and healthy relationship under a marriage contract legally and followed by the instructions religiously.

I used an Islamic reference but I'm not...

Lol - The reference did make it sound like you might be so fair mistake.