[dork.master.king]

https://sinister.ly/Thread-Do-you-own-your-body
When the word Allah is used , It usually brings the memories of middle eastern people shouting ALLAHU AKBAR , but
In different religions and belief systems whether the source of creation is named YAHWEW , ALLAH(which was one of many GODs they believed in but Mohmmad the Prophet chose ALLAH or the other way around ) , GOD , BIG BANG ,
in my view they are all eventually referring to 0 or the start point of our existensial plane that we exist and are able to comprehend
they could be different planes of existence from where BIGBANG or ALLAH came from which would be the negative part , the positive is us and what comes after BIGBANG , but we already know existence exists on different planes of vibration which would cause communication and comprehension.
All that aside all these reality or whatever we receive or exist in comes to one point , That we exist whether if some entity created us or didn't , whether we are just a mental image of some existence or not , whether you believe in ALLAH or BIGBANG , ALLAH is said to be everywhere and we came from him/her same as the elements that were present in occurrence of BIGBANG ,
my point is we are all together make GOD , ALLAH whatever you wanna call it , and him makes us ,
we are, all and all is us , the all makes the all whether It's one or all , we are one and we are all ,It's funny how an old word in certain languages ALLAH resembles THE ALL .
It all simply means to believe in ourselves and our existence and no matter what you believe in we exist and have that in common right?
Humans, we like power , we like money , we like things that are not even real , and we for sure love to misinterpret and use the f out anything or any concept to be in power and get lost in those ideas and even kill someone or insult or jail or beat someone up for it , because we are too filled with ego of intelligence and we act like weaponized monkeys that's enslaving the f out of our home Earth.
we crap where we eat and sleep , we're that simple and unique at the same time...
Raven out.

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[Dismas]

in my view they are all eventually referring to 0

Many religions promote compassion, generosity, and forgiveness. Those are pretty decent principles to live by. We're a bunch of ants floating on a rock through space, still pondering what that "0" is.

[dork.master.king]

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Thank you very much.

[Boudica]

This thread was a little rambly, but it sounds like you're asking why each of us believes what we do about the universe's creation?

I suspect big bang is the closest thing to the truth, but I have no resolved idea of what I think spawned the universe, or how it works. I suspect Dark Matter will eventually give us the clues we're after, but I can neither confirm nor deny some of entity exists which caused our creation. I wouldn't really call myself religious, or atheist (although I have been an atheist for most of my life to date). My opinion is that none of us has enough information/evidence or knowledge to know the absolute truth. Religion is faith - a belief with no proof. There is no shame or issue with this. It's a means of understanding our existence, and I have no means to say to someone they're correct or incorrect.

I don't mind whatever people believe, as long as it causes no harm to someone else. However, as the OP says, humans aren't the most pure creatures, and we make decisions that hurt people. Wars around religion rarely have anything to do with religion in and of itself. It's normally a claim to land/power/control, under the sub context of religion. If no religion existed, we wouldn't have any fewer wars or fights.

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Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

[dork.master.king]

This thread was a little rambly, but it sounds like you're asking why each of us believes what we do about the universe's creation?

I suspect big bang is the closest thing to the truth, but I have no resolved idea of what I think spawned the universe, or how it works. I suspect Dark Matter will eventually give us the clues we're after, but I can neither confirm nor deny some of entity exists which caused our creation. I wouldn't really call myself religious, or atheist (although I have been an atheist for most of my life to date). My opinion is that none of us has enough information/evidence or knowledge to know the absolute truth. Religion is faith - a belief with no proof. There is no shame or issue with this. It's a means of understanding our existence, and I have no means to say to someone they're correct or incorrect.

I don't mind whatever people believe, as long as it causes no harm to someone else. However, as the OP says, humans aren't the most pure creatures, and we make decisions that hurt people. Wars around religion rarely have anything to do with religion in and of itself. It's normally a claim to land/power/control, under the sub context of religion. If no religion existed, we wouldn't have any fewer wars or fights.

It was a little rambly yes but it was more of a reply to literally someone asking the below thread owner(Which whom I assume is a Muslim) ''why do you think Allah is real?'' than a question. But thank you for your reply , It reminded me that I didn't that I didn't leave a reference to the original question from the other thread
https://sinister.ly/Thread-Do-you-own-your-body
Of course in order to make it have more sense I had to mix in a portion of thought trace of my own on how I got to a point of belief which I stand about the concept, cause in my experience when I do that people would understand what point of view I'm coming from and get less backlash ,I'm okay with backlash and arguments but I just didn't wanna waste extra time explaining my thought trace after I got someone mad, because a mad human is less likely to hear or understand anything that comes after they've been triggered , and I can't stand thinking twice about what I could've said or done differently.
About BIGBANG what I meant was that both of them(BIGBANG and GOD) explain the same thing in different perspectives or timelines and essentially are the same thing.
Dark Matter also is an unknown/dark field/matter that presumably could answer/explain many things in a most scientific way which is most logical accepted way through proof these days (although It's not perfect yet and can be biased and wrong sometimes!)and the reason It's still unknown in my humble opinion is the way we want to study and approach it, there could be many ways to study/prove it but we're stuck with certain methods that are widely accepted to majority and majority of any field from even any academic level is unfortunately is comparable to the majority that consists of people/humans that their biggest issue is to get a 9-5 to feed themselves in an environment they never even chose to live in or even people that like to flex their rollie ,or mine is bigger than yours!! no one's to blame really, except everyone! But that's the way it is , It is what it is till someone who actually gives an actual like a big fat F and sacrifice everything to change this falling world.(perhaps an anti-christ to call upon Jesus?I don't think so , I'm not religious anyways, except my own religion ofc..., although I do believe in self-fullfilling prophecy and the power of who's is bigger! That could make the promised apocalypse come true).
True a lot of wars are over lands and other materialistic things but most people grow up with from religious based or grown beliefs ,but the people behind these wars are in alot of cases driven by religion , it is easier to mix their own needs with a bit of religion if the majority if it goes with the majoritie's belief system specially if you get a green light to cut someone if they don't kneel and example would be called Jihad , purely mentioned jihad as an example no offense meant to my brothers out there!
Sorry if it was a bit rantish this time.
I'm just a psycho who cares too much!
Raven Out.

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in my view they are all eventually referring to 0

Many religions promote compassion, generosity, and forgiveness. Those are pretty decent principles to live by. We're a bunch of ants floating on a rock through space, still pondering what that "0" is.

Yes and they actually helped the old timers to live a better life in those times,100 Percent.
The world changes and time passes by and things grow and change , we just need tweaks and updates or next releases to fix bugs and errors.
RAVEN Out.

[AVE]

This thread was a little rambly, but it sounds like you're asking why each of us believes what we do about the universe's creation?

I suspect big bang is the closest thing to the truth, but I have no resolved idea of what I think spawned the universe, or how it works. I suspect Dark Matter will eventually give us the clues we're after, but I can neither confirm nor deny some of entity exists which caused our creation. I wouldn't really call myself religious, or atheist (although I have been an atheist for most of my life to date). My opinion is that none of us has enough information/evidence or knowledge to know the absolute truth. Religion is faith - a belief with no proof. There is no shame or issue with this. It's a means of understanding our existence, and I have no means to say someone it correct or incorrect.

I don't mind whatever people believe, as long as it causes no harm to someone else. However, as the OP says, human's aren't the most pure creatures, and we make decisions that hurt people. Wars around religion rarely have anything to do with religion and of itself. It's normally a claim to land/power/control, under the sub context of religion. If no religion existed, we wouldn't have any fewer wars or fights.

It was a little rambly yes but it was more of a reply to literally someone asking the below thread owner(Which whom I assume is a Muslim) ''why do you think Allah is real?'' than a question. But thank you for your reply , It reminded me that I didn't that I didn't leave a reference to the original question from the other thread
https://sinister.ly/Thread-Do-you-own-your-body
Of course in order to make it have more sense I had to mix in a portion of thought trace of my own on how I got to a point of belief which I stand about the concept, cause in my experience when I do that people would understand what point of view I'm coming from and get less backlash ,I'm okay with backlash and arguments but I just didn't wanna waste extra time explaining my thought trace after I got someone mad, because a mad human is less likely to hear or understand anything that comes after they've been triggered , and I can't stand thinking twice about what I could've said or done differently.
About BIGBANG what I meant was that both of them(BIGBANG and GOD) explain the same thing in different perspectives or timelines and essentially are the same thing.
Dark Matter also is an unknown/dark field/matter that presumably could answer/explain many things in a most scientific way which is most logical accepted way through proof these days (although It's not perfect yet and can be biased and wrong sometimes!)and the reason It's still unknown in my humble opinion is the way we want to study and approach it, there could be many ways to study/prove it but we're stuck with certain methods that are widely accepted to majority and majority of any field from even any academic level is unfortunately is comparable to the majority that consists of people/humans that their biggest issue is to get a 9-5 to feed themselves in an environment they never even chose to live in or even people that like to flex their rollie ,or mine is bigger than yours!! no one's to blame really, except everyone! But that's the way it is , It is what it is till someone who actually gives an actual like a big fat  F and sacrifice everything to change this falling world.(perhaps an anti-christ to call upon Jesus?I don't think so , I'm not religious anyways, except my own religion ofc..., although I do believe in self-fullfilling prophecy and the power of who's is bigger! That could make the promised apocalypse come true).
True a lot of wars are over lands and other materialistic things but most people grow up with from religious based or grown beliefs ,but the people behind these wars are in alot of cases driven by religion  , it is easier to mix their own needs with a bit of religion if the majority if it goes with the majoritie's belief system specially if you get a green light to cut someone if they don't kneel and example would be called Jihad , purely mentioned jihad as an example no offense meant to my brothers out there!
Sorry if it was a bit rantish this time.
I'm just a psycho who cares too much!
Raven Out.

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in my view they are all eventually referring to 0

Many religions promote compassion, generosity, and forgiveness. Those are pretty decent principles to live by. We're a bunch of ants floating on a rock through space, still pondering what that "0" is.

Yes and they actually helped the old timers to live a better life in those times,100 Percent.
The world changes and time passes by and things grow and change , we just need tweaks and updates or next releases to fix bugs and errors.
RAVEN Out.

Very interesting what everyone has said. Still don't know what to believe though, if "god or allah or a higher power" created us then how did he get created, its impossible to create something from nothing, this also applies to big bang. Which leads me to the only theory that makes some sense, we are inside a simulation simulated by someone in a world where they know how they were created, but this sounds too far fetched. my opinion is our creation should not be looked into as it has already happened it wont affect us, we should focus on winning and enjoying the present and future.

[Andrea Bags]

no one knows the truth so it doesn't matter

[AVE]

no one knows the truth so it doesn't matter

Yes, i agree