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RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Aether - 12-16-2016

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: Here we have another, subjective term "good". For the own pleasure is a good enough reason for me.
(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: for me.

Well thank fuck that you'll never have any legislative power if you truly are that stupid.
Let's also make rape and pedophilia legal since they're also done for self-pleasure! Nothing wrong with that!

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: You keep talking out of your ass.
You quoted an entire sentence word-by-word from a debate.org website. Yes, I'm supposed to believe you when you say you gave your own definition/argument. Especially when you can't even defend it and especially when the debate.org topic was posted before this thread. You're digging your own grave at this point.

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: Funny that you presume how my lifestyle is when in reality, you don't know shit about me dude. Do tell me why you consider murder as morally wrong.
Don't get pissy because I've made an assumption. You're trying to sell the idea that you've had "homicidal tendencies" and then use imprisonment as an excuse. The majority of the time you've spent on this forum is posting regarding anime, and as I would assume that means you watch the cartoons. Is there anything wrong with watching cartoons? No, but it just seems that you watch too much and believe you live in a fantasy world. Regarding to living in your parents house? Nothing offensive about that either, I've just said so to underline that you're more than likely a child.

Why is murder morally wrong? Simple. As a human being in the modern day and age you have no right to take another human being's life. There's nothing to argue about.

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: You keep telling yourself that.
The fact that you're that delusional is pretty amusing. I've read an article earlier today regarding mimicing Gene effects, that must mean i'm able to debate/argue with a Geneticist!

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Blink - 12-16-2016

@Ayumi

Are you an anarchist?


Also, I politely disagree, but I see what you are saying.
The only problem with a world where homocide is legal, is the fact that everyone needs to have the same ability to fight back.

In other words, everyone needs to have the exact same defensive resources, if you have a gun then I also need to have one.

The obvious problem is that some people are bad at fighting, so it creates a disbalance.


The issue with this discussion, is that everyone is simply screaming NO! or not complying by your rules (no relative terms).

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Balls - 12-16-2016

And this is why Christianity's perfectly drawn line of morals is needed in this world.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Blink - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 01:11 AM)Balls Wrote: And this is why Christianity's perfectly drawn line of morals is needed in this world.

How is it perfect? What defines perfect? You are taking the relative view saying that your religion is perfect, yet you have no basis for saying so.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Aether - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 12:27 AM)Ender Wrote: @Ayumi

Are you an anarchist?


Also, I politely disagree, but I see what you are saying.
The only problem with a world where homocide is legal, is the fact that everyone needs to have the same ability to fight back.

In other words, everyone needs to have the exact same defensive resources, if you have a gun then I also need to have one.

The obvious problem is that some people are bad at fighting, so it creates a disbalance.


The issue with this discussion, is that everyone is simply screaming NO! or not complying by your rules (no relative terms).

The issue with this discussion is that op's argument is literally copied off a debate website with barely any addition to the discussion. Murdering the innocent is considered one of the worst thing a human being can do and op's justification for this discussion is "pleasure is a valid reason".

I've already previously mentioned the fact regarding how op would expect any laws to be in place and and how a society would function. The only response I got is to piss off.

In order to have a serious discussion one has to create valid points and arguments, then consider what the other user is stating and agree/disagree with so. Not telling a person to fuck off because he's incapable to answer them.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Blink - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 01:23 AM)Aether Wrote:
(12-16-2016, 12:27 AM)Ender Wrote: @Ayumi

Are you an anarchist?


Also, I politely disagree, but I see what you are saying.
The only problem with a world where homocide is legal, is the fact that everyone needs to have the same ability to fight back.

In other words, everyone needs to have the exact same defensive resources, if you have a gun then I also need to have one.

The obvious problem is that some people are bad at fighting, so it creates a disbalance.


The issue with this discussion, is that everyone is simply screaming NO! or not complying by your rules (no relative terms).

The issue with this discussion is that op's argument is literally copied off a debate website with barely any addition to the discussion. Murdering the innocent is considered one of the worst thing a human being can do and op's justification for this discussion is "pleasure is a valid reason".

I've already previously mentioned the fact regarding how op would expect any laws to be in place and and how a society would function. The only response I got is to piss off.

In order to have a serious discussion one has to create valid points and arguments, then consider what the other user is stating and agree/disagree with so. Not telling a person to fuck off because he's incapable to answer them.

True, but you didn't give an argument without relative views. (Not critisizing you, I'm just viewing this from both sides)
This could've made for a good discussion, but it got practically destroyed.

I still want to know if @Ayumi is an archist though.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Aether - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 01:29 AM)Ender Wrote:
(12-16-2016, 01:23 AM)Aether Wrote:
(12-16-2016, 12:27 AM)Ender Wrote: @Ayumi

Are you an anarchist?


Also, I politely disagree, but I see what you are saying.
The only problem with a world where homocide is legal, is the fact that everyone needs to have the same ability to fight back.

In other words, everyone needs to have the exact same defensive resources, if you have a gun then I also need to have one.

The obvious problem is that some people are bad at fighting, so it creates a disbalance.


The issue with this discussion, is that everyone is simply screaming NO! or not complying by your rules (no relative terms).

The issue with this discussion is that op's argument is literally copied off a debate website with barely any addition to the discussion. Murdering the innocent is considered one of the worst thing a human being can do and op's justification for this discussion is "pleasure is a valid reason".

I've already previously mentioned the fact regarding how op would expect any laws to be in place and and how a society would function. The only response I got is to piss off.

In order to have a serious discussion one has to create valid points and arguments, then consider what the other user is stating and agree/disagree with so. Not telling a person to fuck off because he's incapable to answer them.

True, but you didn't give an argument without relative views. (Not critisizing you, I'm just viewing this from both sides)
This could've made for a good discussion, but it got practically destroyed.

I still want to know if @Ayumi is an archist though.

If I would've gotten a legitimate response regarding how he would think it's possible to run a society whilst having murder legal, It could've gotten a serious discussion because it would have delved into the issue of how justice could be disciplined in such a system and would also thread the line of "If X is ok, why should Y and Z not be?".

I agree with you though, this could have had potential to be a proper discussion but it can't when one chooses to cherry pick what to reply too and simply tell people to fuck off when he feels like not responding.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Balls - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 01:13 AM)Ender Wrote:
(12-16-2016, 01:11 AM)Balls Wrote: And this is why Christianity's perfectly drawn line of morals is needed in this world.

How is it perfect? What defines perfect? You are taking the relative view saying that your religion is perfect, yet you have no basis for saying so.

Supposed it wasn't, would you still agree that human/life would be better, and people more happy if they followed teachings and morals of Christianity rather than a free-for-all?

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Despised - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 12:00 AM)Aether Wrote: Well thank fuck that you'll never have any legislative power if you truly are that stupid.
Let's also make rape and pedophilia legal since they're also done for self-pleasure! Nothing wrong with that!

Make your own thread about your sick needs. This one is about murder.

Quote:You quoted an entire sentence word-by-word from a debate.org website. Yes, I'm supposed to believe you when you say you gave your own definition/argument. Especially when you can't even defend it and especially when the debate.org topic was posted before this thread. You're digging your own grave at this point.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/morality

Enjoy kiddo. There's your definition. You gonna step outta your butthurt now and get back on track?

Quote:Don't get pissy because I've made an assumption. You're trying to sell the idea that you've had "homicidal tendencies" and then use imprisonment as an excuse. The majority of the time you've spent on this forum is posting regarding anime

I've made more posts in the lounge.

Quote:and as I would assume that means you watch the cartoons.

And? Much better than your pedophilia.

Quote:Is there anything wrong with watching cartoons? No, but it just seems that you watch too much and believe you live in a fantasy world. Regarding to living in your parents house? Nothing offensive about that either, I've just said so to underline that you're more than likely a child.

Do I actually come over as a child, do you presume all your bullshit by looking at my profile, or can't you counter anything, yet feel the need to post as you feel like a worthless piece of trash hate because the topic is murder?

Quote:Why is murder morally wrong? Simple. As a human being in the modern day and age you have no right to take another human being's life. There's nothing to argue about.

You could avenge your loss anytime. Also I don't give a fuck about anyone's rights or some fucking god, so don't even attempt to play that card on me.

Quote:The fact that you're that delusional is pretty amusing. I've read an article earlier today regarding mimicing Gene effects, that must mean i'm able to debate/argue with a Geneticist!

Delusional for what reason? Not agreeing with your bullshit?

(12-16-2016, 12:27 AM)Ender Wrote: @Ayumi

Are you an anarchist?

Nope.

(12-16-2016, 01:11 AM)Balls Wrote: And this is why Christianity's perfectly drawn line of morals is needed in this world.

The lack of empathy can be caused by multiple things. So even if you managed to brainwash the whole population at once somehow, it'd become just like now eventually again.

Most murderers & serial killers kill for the purpose of frustration relief, which I can absolutely relate to.

RE: Murder is not morally wrong - Aether - 12-16-2016

(12-16-2016, 02:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: Make your own thread about your sick needs. This one is about murder.

Zzz Ad hominem attacks because you're incapable to defend any of your own statements. I made the comparison because you stated yourself
(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: For the own pleasure is a good enough reason for me.

So not only are you delusional, but at this point you're plain stupid. Seems like my assessment stating you're not an intellectual being was correct.

You're stating killing a human for
(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: pleasure

is perfectly acceptable but when sick men rape or abuse children for their own
(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: pleasure
 there is where the line is crossed!

"How dare mentally unstable people do such heinous acts of raping people and abusing children for their own pleasure! I just want to kill people for pleasure! "- Ayumi.

I'll give you another chance to defend your statement without being a full blown hypocrite.

Oh, and simply trying to indirectly call me a pedophile or rapist for making a correlation that you can't even defend against is just amusing.

(12-16-2016, 02:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: Enjoy kiddo. There's your definition. You gonna step outta your butthurt now and get back on track?

Again, stupid response. I've called you out not due to definition, so linking an oxford definition is completely irrelevant. You tried calling out another user to "use their brain" yet I state once again, you copied your "Argument" exactly word by word off a debate.org website.
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(12-16-2016, 02:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: I've made more posts in the lounge.
irrelevant.

(12-16-2016, 02:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: And? Much better than your pedophilia.
Another irrelevant troll post. Again, you're too stupid to realize I was making a correlation and try to use it as if It's relevant.
"Serious Discussion" Section, Stay classy.

(12-16-2016, 02:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: Do I actually come over as a child, do you presume all your bullshit by looking at my profile, or can't you counter anything, yet feel the need to post as you feel like a worthless piece of trash hate because the topic is murder?
I make my assumptions off 3 criteria
  • Your Attitude
  • Your Posts/Reasoning
  • Your Interests

You've got a jack shit attitude, Your posts are literally spam/copied off websites, you're incapable to defend any of your statements and simply ignore the ones you can't answer, and as stated before your interests show that you're more likely influenced by the shit you watch, which in your case is Japanese cartoons.

Why shouldn't I post? It's supposed to be the "Serious discussion" section yet you can't even hold up a discussion, let alone a serious one. Of course I'll post on your thread pointing out your stupidity.

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: For the own pleasure is a good enough reason for me.

That's not your argument. Stop changing your reasoning on every reply. This is your previous reasoning you've given
(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: For the own pleasure is a good enough reason for me.

You state you don't care about rights, yet more than likely you live in a home with water electricity and internet, you've went to school, you aren't forced into slavery, you aren't discriminated because of your skin, you have a right to stay anonymous online the list goes on and on.

But after you've received so much without having to do anything, because it's your right as a human being you magically think you're above everyone and could do what you want. Not sure why you've mentioned religion when I haven't.

Let go of your ego, because you're not as important as you think.

(12-15-2016, 01:13 PM)Ayumi Wrote: Delusional for what reason? Not agreeing with your bullshit?
You're delusional because you believe killing another human being for no reason or pleasure is right, yet there's a shitload of evidence against it.

You literally hit the definition of delusional.
An idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder:


You truly are stupid aren't you. If so just save me the time.