RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-22-2013, 01:00 AM
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RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-22-2013, 01:30 AM
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(08-22-2013, 01:00 AM)Skizzy Wrote:(08-22-2013, 12:42 AM)Chaos Wrote: What do you mean by removing the guns. Like the government going house to house asking for your weapons?Our government is trying to outlaw most guns and or make them a million times harder to obtain one and they keep trying to put restrictions on clip size etc.
I just don't see the point. There are already too many guns in circulation to even make a difference. Unless they got a giant fucking weapon magnet that will attract firearms to a secret headquarters, then just no.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-22-2013, 01:39 AM
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(08-22-2013, 01:30 AM)Chaos Wrote:All guns are registered (legally obtained ones that is) to a certain person and number that can be traced. They would send out police etc to confiscate them.(08-22-2013, 01:00 AM)Skizzy Wrote:(08-22-2013, 12:42 AM)Chaos Wrote: What do you mean by removing the guns. Like the government going house to house asking for your weapons?Our government is trying to outlaw most guns and or make them a million times harder to obtain one and they keep trying to put restrictions on clip size etc.
I just don't see the point. There are already too many guns in circulation to even make a difference. Unless they got a giant fucking weapon magnet that will attract firearms to a secret headquarters, then just no.
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-22-2013, 02:22 AM
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(08-22-2013, 01:39 AM)Skizzy Wrote:Do you not see a problem with that? When you put into consideration the amount of weapons actually out there, and the fact that they are many unwilling gun owners ready to hand them over because the police are there. Cause a lot of problems.(08-22-2013, 01:30 AM)Chaos Wrote:All guns are registered (legally obtained ones that is) to a certain person and number that can be traced. They would send out police etc to confiscate them.(08-22-2013, 01:00 AM)Skizzy Wrote: Our government is trying to outlaw most guns and or make them a million times harder to obtain one and they keep trying to put restrictions on clip size etc.
I just don't see the point. There are already too many guns in circulation to even make a difference. Unless they got a giant fucking weapon magnet that will attract firearms to a secret headquarters, then just no.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-22-2013, 02:35 AM
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(08-22-2013, 02:22 AM)Chaos Wrote:I see huge problems in it. I hate these people who want to take away guns. They can have them when I run out of bullets.(08-22-2013, 01:39 AM)Skizzy Wrote:Do you not see a problem with that? When you put into consideration the amount of weapons actually out there, and the fact that they are many unwilling gun owners ready to hand them over because the police are there. Cause a lot of problems.(08-22-2013, 01:30 AM)Chaos Wrote: I just don't see the point. There are already too many guns in circulation to even make a difference. Unless they got a giant fucking weapon magnet that will attract firearms to a secret headquarters, then just no.All guns are registered (legally obtained ones that is) to a certain person and number that can be traced. They would send out police etc to confiscate them.
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-23-2013, 09:19 AM
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(08-22-2013, 02:46 AM)Harvey Wrote:(08-22-2013, 12:42 AM)Chaos Wrote: What do you mean by removing the guns. Like the government going house to house asking for your weapons?
That's exactly what they do. It's a buy-back scheme.
This is directed at all of your anti-gun posts.
First, I'd suggest your browse through this ebook I found. The data in it is from government statistics and college studies.
Link: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/...screen.pdf
Secondly, your argument of removing guns from America is invalid. For one, the majority of firearms used in crimes in the U.S. are illegally bought. We don't live on a nice isolated island like you, Harvey, but instead we border Mexico, smuggling in both drugs, firearms, and many other contraband. I could honestly go outside and walk a few blocks to buy a gun. Is it a legal gun? No. That's the difference between here and Australia. There's already too many guns in circulation that it'd be impossible to simply take them away. You also used Australia as an example of gun control laws working. You might say how Australia has a lower gun-related crime rate, but even before the laws were enacted it always had a lower crime rate than the U.S. As a matter of fact, gun-related crimes actually increased in the years following the gun ban. (See page 68 of the pdf for more information.)
It's better to actually have a gun rather than banning them.For instance lets say guns were banned. You were one of the law-abiding citizens who gave up your guns. One night you're all sleeping and your hear someone knocking on the door. Your wife goes to answer it, and through a crack in your door you can see she's at gunpoint. You grab a baseball bat or a knife to go stop him, but when you run out with it he turns and shoots you. For people who actually want to protect their families, some would much prefer a gun. Banning guns will do little to nothing to help. Do you think if Guns were banned Adam Lanza or Holmes couldn't find a different way to get a gun? I'm to tired to find it or anything, hell my grammar is probably atrocious at this point so sorry if you have trouble reading it, but have you ever heard of the shootout under the U.S's assault rifle ban? Two men in full body armor AND ASSAULT RIFLES tried to rob a bank or something. Caused a shootout. so on so on. There is probably a variety of incidents like this and in many cases guns have been used to save people, rather than harm. You wont see them on the news, but look it up. Sorry for rambling on, I'm just really bored and tired.
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RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-23-2013, 10:05 AM
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Quote:For one, the majority of firearms used in crimes in the U.S. are illegally bought.
I stopped reading here. If you look at my previous arguments which I've supplied evidence to support, you'll see this is far from true. Also, that document seems stupidly biased.
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-23-2013, 10:11 AM
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Here in the Uk you can't have guns at all. Even most cops (or police) don't have guns. You guys in the US have it nice.
RE: Your views on Gun Rights? 08-23-2013, 07:46 PM
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(08-23-2013, 10:05 AM)Harvey Wrote:Quote:For one, the majority of firearms used in crimes in the U.S. are illegally bought.
I stopped reading here. If you look at my previous arguments which I've supplied evidence to support, you'll see this is far from true. Also, that document seems stupidly biased.
The only source you've used was for mass shootings.
While it may be biased, a lot of the facts are true.
Even so, you still want to illegalize guns when it would have little to no use in the U.S.
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