[Greed]

We currently don't know, but at least we don't say we know and create religions from it.

I forgot the term to describe someone who believes in God but still confused, But anyways Religion was created for us to draw some power in our faith, Believe me know one lived to tell the tale of Jesus, All of his teachings were gotten from the bible which is 60% true for me, Since i am tied up with my devoutness in Christianity i cant just say i don't believe in this and that, But back toy our comment that's where people make Atheist think.

[Flashdrive]

Actually i was trolling about the last part but even science cant explain our origin, Somehow your answers make no sense since most of us were born in the 90s not thousands of years ago.


I dont like to argue about this since i believe in my own fate, Quite frankly no one will win this, And lastly i have a question for you that you should answer, Who or How was the universe created, I cant be like shit that just popped out or something.

It's quite easy to see stuff in the past regardless to when we were born, and allow me to point out another flaw that you had in your ending statement there. Onto the first thing;

When scientist say that we originated from the big bang, or at least a giant explosion happened from something very dense that created matter, and things can come from nothing (mind you not some intelligent begin with super powers but simple things can be created on the quantum level). Now lets say a scientist wants to see into the past of space, and he needs a way to do so one of the tools he can use is a telescope, and here's the logic behind it. When you look up into space (before I go any further a light year is how far light can travel in a year) and you point your super strong telescope into the night sky you're looking into the past and that's how ever many light years away that thing is you're seeing the light from however many years ago.

Now when you go into space observatories or high tech mega telescopes they can see billions of light years into space and into the edge of the universe that we know, now how is that important you may ask? well we can see the radiation, and immense heat almost like that of an explosion that is ruffly 10 - 12 billion years old [not sure how old the universe is exactly so it's what ever number that is]. Now let's not argue for the sake of what made the big bang as no one will know the answer to this but I can elaborate further in. When this happens it created clouds of matter, and astonishing amounts of heat that bonded things together into clouds that soon turned into stars, which than exploded sending more elements out and soon creating what we now know as the universe and all of the matter in it. That my friend is how we know or at least have a very good understanding of how the universe was created.

Now I want to bring up a statement you made "I cant be like shit that just popped out or something." yet you believe your omnipotent God, the most complex thing that could ever exist just popped out of nothing? yet you can't grasp the concept of basic elements being molded from a super explosion? please elaborate.

[Greed]

It's quite easy to see stuff in the past regardless to when we were born, and allow me to point out another flaw that you had in your ending statement there. Onto the first thing;

When scientist say that we originated from the big bang, or at least a giant explosion happened from something very dense that created matter, and things can come from nothing (mind you not some intelligent begin with super powers but simple things can be created on the quantum level). Now lets say a scientist wants to see into the past of space, and he needs a way to do so one of the tools he can use is a telescope, and here's the logic behind it. When you look up into space (before I go any further a light year is how far light can travel in a year) and you point your super strong telescope into the night sky you're looking into the past and that's how ever many light years away that thing is you're seeing the light from however many years ago.

Now when you go into space observatories or high tech mega telescopes they can see billions of light years into space and into the edge of the universe that we know, now how is that important you may ask? well we can see the radiation, and immense heat almost like that of an explosion that is ruffly 10 - 12 billion years old [not sure how old the universe is exactly so it's what ever number that is]. Now let's not argue for the sake of what made the big bang as no one will know the answer to this but I can elaborate further in. When this happens it created clouds of matter, and astonishing amounts of heat that bonded things together into clouds that soon turned into stars, which than exploded sending more elements out and soon creating what we now know as the universe and all of the matter in it. That my friend is how we know or at least have a very good understanding of how the universe was created.

Now I want to bring up a statement you made "I cant be like shit that just popped out or something." yet you believe your omnipotent God, the most complex thing that could ever exist just popped out of nothing? yet you can't grasp the concept of basic elements being molded from a super explosion? please elaborate.

Wait, The "I" is suppose to be "It", And dude the Big Bang is still a "Theory" i will believe your statement if science has proven it and it became a law.

[Flashdrive]

Wait, The "I" is suppose to be "It", And dude the Big Bang is still a "Theory" i will believe your statement if science has proven it and it became a law.

Alright still replace the I with an It than elaborate on how your God appeared out of nothing? as you so want to throw our theory back at us with such flawed logic.

Also you ask for something to happen that never will. Science will never make something a law if they're not 100 percent sure or it's withstood the test of time long enough to be considered one, but on what grounds do you reject the logic behind the big bang?

Also I can link you to a lecture by Lawrence Kraus that explains "Something, from nothing" if you would like it just ask.

Now I asked 3 questions in posts and I want them answered before we continue this.

[Greed]

Alright still replace the I with an It than elaborate on how your God appeared out of nothing? as you so want to throw our theory back at us with such flawed logic.

Also you ask for something to happen that never will. Science will never make something a law if they're not 100 percent sure or it's withstood the test of time long enough to be considered one, but on what grounds do you reject the logic behind the big bang?

Also I can link you to a lecture by Lawrence Kraus that explains "Something, from nothing" if you would like it just ask.

Now I asked 3 questions in posts and I want them answered before we continue this.

I answered your question, And please link me to the lecture i want to read it.

[Flashdrive]

I answered your question, And please link me to the lecture i want to read it.

It's an hour long lecture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUYw59ztyw

I'm sure you can find the transcript somewhere if you dig deeper or look up more information on quantum physics.

[Greed]

It's an hour long lecture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUYw59ztyw

I'm sure you can find the transcript somewhere if you dig deeper or look up more information on quantum physics.

OK thanks, Will listen to some, But still my faith is unchanged

[Flashdrive]

OK thanks, Will listen to some, But still my faith is unchanged

It's fine I never go up against a religion person and expect them to change their views, it's a hard thing to try to accept that something you were told your whole life is a lie, hopefully some day you really do watch that lecture, and do more research into your religion.


Just don't be a sheep is all I have to say.

[Greed]

It's fine I never go up against a religion person and expect them to change their views, it's a hard thing to try to accept that something you were told your whole life is a lie, hopefully some day you really do watch that lecture, and do more research into your religion.


Just don't be a sheep is all I have to say.

Actually i just need more answers in my religion thats all.

[Major Tom]

I don't because i am a atheist.
Goml!