[Nil]

The reason I don't want to have a god involved on it is because I am talking about the action he committed by crying. He was weak. A man dies in silence and not screaming his lungs out for public forgiveness. Plus I see the belief of god completely false.

The extreme punishment varies like you said. Others fear death and others like me do not. To me death is not the worse punishment.

Well, I guess I'd have to look more into the situation that what is all presented in the original post to give better responses. But, does it say why the man is crying? Or do we have to assume it's only because he doesn't want to die?

True. But from what is allowed lawfully, would you agree that Death is the most extreme punishment?

In the bible it doesn't specify. It can be taken that he was crying for literal salvation as Jesus can literally save people or that his cries were directed towards true forgiveness.

Oh, okay. So his cries don't have to be literal sobbing then. He could actually be crying for salvation. In that case, why do you still see it as weak? He's not crying because he didn't accept his punishment like the other guy, but because he wants salvation and feels like he deserves it? Is that still weak? Trying to get something you think you deserve/believe in at that moment.

[Evangelist]

Well, I guess I'd have to look more into the situation that what is all presented in the original post to give better responses. But, does it say why the man is crying? Or do we have to assume it's only because he doesn't want to die?

True. But from what is allowed lawfully, would you agree that Death is the most extreme punishment?

In the bible it doesn't specify. It can be taken that he was crying for literal salvation as Jesus can literally save people or that his cries were directed towards true forgiveness.

Oh, okay. So his cries don't have to be literal sobbing then. He could actually be crying for salvation. In that case, why do you still see it as weak? He's not crying because he didn't accept his punishment like the other guy, but because he wants salvation and feels like he deserves it? Is that still weak? Trying to get something you think you deserve/believe in at that moment.

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

[Feat]

In the bible it doesn't specify. It can be taken that he was crying for literal salvation as Jesus can literally save people or that his cries were directed towards true forgiveness.

Oh, okay. So his cries don't have to be literal sobbing then. He could actually be crying for salvation. In that case, why do you still see it as weak? He's not crying because he didn't accept his punishment like the other guy, but because he wants salvation and feels like he deserves it? Is that still weak? Trying to get something you think you deserve/believe in at that moment.

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

This.

I believe the bibke is filled with nothing more than things that are suposed to make ua look like pussies honestly.

[Nil]

In the bible it doesn't specify. It can be taken that he was crying for literal salvation as Jesus can literally save people or that his cries were directed towards true forgiveness.

Oh, okay. So his cries don't have to be literal sobbing then. He could actually be crying for salvation. In that case, why do you still see it as weak? He's not crying because he didn't accept his punishment like the other guy, but because he wants salvation and feels like he deserves it? Is that still weak? Trying to get something you think you deserve/believe in at that moment.

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

[Evangelist]

Oh, okay. So his cries don't have to be literal sobbing then. He could actually be crying for salvation. In that case, why do you still see it as weak? He's not crying because he didn't accept his punishment like the other guy, but because he wants salvation and feels like he deserves it? Is that still weak? Trying to get something you think you deserve/believe in at that moment.

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

[Feat]

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

So basically, the other guy is crying because his mom didnt change his diaper.

[Evangelist]

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

So basically, the other guy is crying because his mom didnt change his diaper.

Yes, that is exactly why he was crying. You should make your own religion yo! I am serious!

[Nil]

Yes, I still believe it to be hugely weak. He tried to escape his punishment. Regardless of if it was literal crying or salvation.

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

Then I guess a new discussion would be if crying or showing emotions is a sign of weakness.

OH, and a thread on why the dude is crying!

[Evangelist]

I believe you clarified in the original post that the man was repenting to God. Which to me means that he wasn't trying to escape his punishment (death), but to get forgiveness to avoid Hell. I don't think he tried to escape his death penalty, but like I said, I haven't read he Bible.

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

Then I guess a new discussion would be if crying or showing emotions is a sign of weakness.

In the given case I do consider it weakness. However we all cry, it depends on what you are crying about.

[Feat]

There is no win or lose here. The main point is that he cried. While the other didn't.

So basically, the other guy is crying because his mom didnt change his diaper.

Yes, that is exactly why he was crying. You should make your own religion yo! I am serious!

Yep, called EvanGels