Debunking Any and All Arguments for the Existence of a God

Accident Man · 07-04-2021, 04:41 PM

If you have an argument or evidence for the existence of a God, please post it here and I will confute it.

Boudica · 07-04-2021, 04:56 PM

Given we don't know everything about the universe, I don't think we can identify the existence, or lack of, a god/gods.

Belief in religion, science, or any measure of both, is not much more than that, a belief. Yes science has more basis on what we can actually witness, but there are many elements of science that are later disproven, or change. In that aspect, science itself isn't perfect. Equally, religion cannot explain everything.

My stance is very neutral on the subject.

Accident Man · 07-04-2021, 05:02 PM

(07-04-2021, 04:56 PM)Boudica Wrote: Given we don't know everything about the universe, I don't think we can identify the existence, or lack of, a god/gods.

Belief in religion, science, or any measure of both, is not much more than that, a belief. Yes science has more basis on what we can actually witness, but there are many elements of science that are later disproven, or change. In that aspect, science itself isn't perfect. Equally, religion cannot explain everything.

My stance is very neutral on the subject.

If we had scientific proof of a God's esse, all religious people would be aligning on the God that had been scientifically proven to subsist. Instead, there are thousands of gods and religions...So why does God not just prove he subsists?

Universal110 · 07-04-2021, 06:16 PM

If "I get 0 bitches" was a post

Vivian7 · 07-06-2021, 05:58 PM

well if you dont believe, just imagine all of that was true and you died

you'll go to hell and if you try to believe and it would be maybe true, you'll be welcome to heaven. saints are a proof, why am i saying all that? I had a miracle @

Accident Man · 07-06-2021, 06:00 PM

(07-06-2021, 05:58 PM)Vivian7 Wrote: well if you dont believe, just imagine all of that was true and you died

you'll go to hell and if you try to believe and it would be maybe true, you'll be welcome to heaven. saints are a proof, why am i saying all that? I had a miracle @

All I have to do is believe in him then it will come true? I rather not lose my dignity and believe in a fairytale. How are saints proof of anything? Miracles are coincidences.

Vivian7 · 07-06-2021, 06:04 PM

(07-06-2021, 06:00 PM)Party Pete Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 05:58 PM)Vivian7 Wrote: well if you dont believe, just imagine all of that was true and you died

you'll go to hell and if you try to believe and it would be maybe true, you'll be welcome to heaven. saints are a proof, why am i saying all that? I had a miracle @
All I have to do is believe in him then it will come true? I rather not lose my dignity and believe in a fairytale. How are saints proof of anything? Miracles are coincidences.

how is burning candle that felt on the sheet while i was praying and i didnt moved it cause i was hocked but nothing burnt a coincidence?

Accident Man · 07-06-2021, 06:05 PM

(07-06-2021, 06:04 PM)Vivian7 Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 06:00 PM)Party Pete Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 05:58 PM)Vivian7 Wrote: well if you dont believe, just imagine all of that was true and you died

you'll go to hell and if you try to believe and it would be maybe true, you'll be welcome to heaven. saints are a proof, why am i saying all that? I had a miracle @
All I have to do is believe in him then it will come true? I rather not lose my dignity and believe in a fairytale. How are saints proof of anything? Miracles are coincidences.

how is burning candle that felt on the sheet while i was praying and i didnt moved it cause i was hocked but nothing burnt a coincidence?

It is a coincidence. That is not a miracle.

Vivian7 · 07-06-2021, 06:08 PM

(07-06-2021, 06:05 PM)Party Pete Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 06:04 PM)Vivian7 Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 06:00 PM)Party Pete Wrote: All I have to do is believe in him then it will come true? I rather not lose my dignity and believe in a fairytale. How are saints proof of anything? Miracles are coincidences.

how is burning candle that felt on the sheet while i was praying and i didnt moved it cause i was hocked but nothing burnt a coincidence?
It is a coincidence. That is not a miracle.

try it at home and see if after 2 minutes the sheet burns or not, tell me it was a miracle

Accident Man · 07-06-2021, 06:11 PM

(07-06-2021, 06:08 PM)Vivian7 Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 06:05 PM)Party Pete Wrote:
(07-06-2021, 06:04 PM)Vivian7 Wrote: how is burning candle that felt on the sheet while i was praying and i didnt moved it cause i was hocked but nothing burnt a coincidence?
It is a coincidence. That is not a miracle.

try it at home and see if after 2 minutes the sheet burns or not, tell me it was a miracle

Coincidence. Miracles are coincidences. Coincidences would still happen even if there were no God. That would not prove God exists anyhow, it is all superstition.