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RE: Zelensky concedes Ukraine won't join Nato #29
(03-28-2022, 07:18 AM)Boudica Wrote:
(03-28-2022, 07:05 AM)imgr8ness Wrote:
(03-28-2022, 04:44 AM)vittring Wrote: It invaded Ukraine?

Sure, Russia invaded Ukraine. Do you know what led to this? I'm curious if the reasons behind that choice to invade matter to you.

(03-28-2022, 04:47 AM)Dismas Wrote: There was (relative) peace prior to the end of February. Who fired the first shot?


Without a source, claims are simply speculation. Even if the source is your neighbor, your dog, or your own account - that's better than nothing.

Relative peace? You must be joking. Do yourself a favor and look up the war in Donbass.

The war in Donbass is a similar situation to now. I believe Dismas was referring to the lack of deaths on this scale. This is far larger than what happened in Donbass.

Yes absolutely more deaths, but my view is that is a pointless discussion, ideally there should be no deaths.

The more important discussion is how did we get to this point. Some people seem to think that Putin got up one day and decided to invade Ukraine just because.

In order to make sense of what is happening now, you must look at the history. Russia has been voicing its concern about NATO and US expansion eastward as far back as 2007 and even earlier.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2007-03/...set-russia
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/19/usa.nato

But the US in all of its wisdom decided to ignore Russia's legitimate concerns and press eastwards regardless.

Don't mistake my words to mean I am 'pro' Russia or any other such nonsense. My preference is always for peace, but you cannot antagonize a country, refuse to listen to their concerns and expect no response.

The US is primarily responsible for this and if you look at all of the wars they have been involved in for the last 30 years at least, you will see a pattern.
(This post was last modified: 03-28-2022, 07:34 AM by imgr8ness.)

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