(12-14-2016, 06:40 PM)resa Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 06:32 PM)Ayumi Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 06:00 PM)mempodippy Wrote: You can't really say "murder is not morally wrong."

I did, and I don't see it as wrong.

Quote:It depends on the nature of the motive.

There's always a motive. Whether it's for the stimulation aka thrill, to vent frustration or materialistic gain - it's still a motive. You don't do anything for no reason.

Quote:There's only really two reasons murder can be committed.

Total bs, lol.

Quote:It ruins families, friendships, relationships, and even traumatizes people for a loooong time. It's selfish and psychotic.

And?

Also do you even know what psychotic means? Not psychopathic if that's what you wanted to say.

Quote:Our places of gathering and socializing are supposed to grant us a comfort of safety. They aren't the place for unleashing years of pent up anger, no matter how bad it is.

Yet it happens. What makes your opinion more important than those who think otherwise like myself?

Quote:edge lords

Singular, please. I seem to be the only non-pussy here who doesn't feel remorse.

epic name my friend.... where did u get it from???

(12-14-2016, 06:32 PM)Ayumi Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 06:00 PM)mempodippy Wrote: You can't really say "murder is not morally wrong."

I did, and I don't see it as wrong.

Quote:It depends on the nature of the motive.

There's always a motive. Whether it's for the stimulation aka thrill, to vent frustration or materialistic gain - it's still a motive. You don't do anything for no reason.

Quote:There's only really two reasons murder can be committed.

Total bs, lol.

Quote:It ruins families, friendships, relationships, and even traumatizes people for a loooong time. It's selfish and psychotic.

And?

Also do you even know what psychotic means? Not psychopathic if that's what you wanted to say.

Quote:Our places of gathering and socializing are supposed to grant us a comfort of safety. They aren't the place for unleashing years of pent up anger, no matter how bad it is.

Yet it happens. What makes your opinion more important than those who think otherwise like myself?

Quote:edge lords

Singular, please. I seem to be the only non-pussy here who doesn't feel remorse.

(12-14-2016, 06:57 PM)mempodippy Wrote: lol
You're reading everything I say and assuming it's directed at you.

Quote:I didn't say murder was wrong. I didn't say there's never a motive.

Quote:You can't really say "murder is not morally wrong."
It depends on the nature of the motive.

Quote:Not really bullshit. and also you seem to have missed out a large majority of everything I said in my post, I wonder why.

Quote:Perhaps not two reasons, but fundamentally two motives.

Quote:I challenge you to produce some evidence which proves otherwise. Yes - the selfish motives which murderers murder are simply psychotic experiences. I don't understand why you're trying to argue some other arbitrary definition of the word.

Quote:Additionally, I'm providing an objective view point, who said I care about who dies and who lives, or who suffers as a result of it? I don't. It's just what happens.

Quote:Nothing makes my opinion more important, because it's not really an opinion...

Quote:it's how these places were designed. To be safe. Fact. Gathering places weren't designed with the thought in mind that mass murders would occur within them. I never said it doesn't happen either.
Oh also, I should probably add, forums were developed with the idea in mind that users would share their thoughts and opinions. Nobody on here has a better opinion than anyone. That's why they're opinions.

(12-14-2016, 07:23 PM)Ayumi Wrote: murder is morally right in this case.

(12-14-2016, 07:25 PM)mempodippy Wrote: you skip over quite a lot of keywords which hinders your ability to have a debate and it's not even a debate at this point

Quote:stop trying so hard to bait, it's bad

Quote:what case is that

(12-14-2016, 03:52 PM)Ayumi Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 03:11 AM)Aether Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 01:55 AM)Ayumi Wrote: Do use your brain, will you. Morality is a man-made concept that is defined by the society we live in. It is subjective.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-morality-subjective
When you're trying to have an intellectual debate, copying word by word from a debate website which is split 50/50 doesn't improve your argument.


You, Myself and every human being, does not have the right to determine weather or not to take a life of another human being. There's a reason why the Justice System is in place, and it's in place to deem what's a right consequence for a wrongdoing. There are specific cases where the death penalty should be reinstated for serial killers, serial rapists etc.

It's irrelevant that it's you think it's in human nature to kill thus it should be legal without even needing justification. If you truly believe that murder should be legal even without needing the proper reasoning, explain to me how it would be even possible to have a society. Remember you're more than likely typing your response from your computer/laptop/mobile whilst sitting in a piece of furniture in your home safe and sound.

Explain to me how it would make any sense at all.

I love how you checked my posts for plagiarization. Can't come up with anything else to prove in my thread? Makes me sad to disappoint you but none of my posts are unless I linked a source, pure coincidence.

There'd still be a society. Just because it's allowed doesn't mean everyone would do it.

(12-14-2016, 08:31 PM)Aether Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 03:52 PM)Ayumi Wrote:

(12-14-2016, 03:11 AM)Aether Wrote:
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-morality-subjective
When you're trying to have an intellectual debate, copying word by word from a debate website which is split 50/50 doesn't improve your argument.


You, Myself and every human being, does not have the right to determine weather or not to take a life of another human being. There's a reason why the Justice System is in place, and it's in place to deem what's a right consequence for a wrongdoing. There are specific cases where the death penalty should be reinstated for serial killers, serial rapists etc.

It's irrelevant that it's you think it's in human nature to kill thus it should be legal without even needing justification. If you truly believe that murder should be legal even without needing the proper reasoning, explain to me how it would be even possible to have a society. Remember you're more than likely typing your response from your computer/laptop/mobile whilst sitting in a piece of furniture in your home safe and sound.

Explain to me how it would make any sense at all.

I love how you checked my posts for plagiarization. Can't come up with anything else to prove in my thread? Makes me sad to disappoint you but none of my posts are unless I linked a source, pure coincidence.

There'd still be a society. Just because it's allowed doesn't mean everyone would do it.

I didn't check for plagiarism. I checked to see if it was truly your opinion or simply copied off another website. Ironically, it was the latter. And don't try to use coincidence as an excuse when your "Definition" is exactly the same from a website created before you did this thread. If you think homicide should be legalized even if a person has no justification to it, you expect there to be any laws and a society?
I refuse to believe you're that daft and assume this is a troll at this point.

(10-21-2016, 03:00 PM)Ayumi Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 02:20 PM)mothered Wrote: So what you're saying Is, If you have a motive (Irrespective of It's nature), It's fine to murder someone?

Exactly. It's human nature. I believe murdering someone regardless of the reason is justifiable.

(10-21-2016, 03:00 PM)Ayumi Wrote: Murder is justifiable because you wouldn't murder anyone without any good reason.

(12-15-2016, 12:15 AM)Aether Wrote: You are not an intellectual being, and reading statements from random online people's opinions does not make you knowledged in the field.

(12-15-2016, 12:15 AM)Aether Wrote: This is how delusional you are.
You're trying to state murder should be completely acceptable because no one would do it without the right reason but at the same time, even if the reason is not "good" it's still perfectly fine!

Quote:At this point, you are a troll, even if you try to act like you're not.
You can barely support your own statements without plagiarizing debate websites, and majority of the responses you tell a user to fuck off or completely ignore their argument because you can't defend your statements (Probably, because you couldn't find what to copy/paste off debate.org).

Quote:You're trying to state that you have numerous "homicidal tendencies" simply because you think it's relevant and trying to state that imprisonment is the only reason you won't do it. This is coming from a user who spends the majority of his time on his computer in his parents house watching anime/Japanese cartoons.

Quote:You are not an intellectual being, and reading statements from random online people's opinions does not make you knowledged in the field.