(02-10-2019, 03:07 AM)geyu29 Wrote:

(02-10-2019, 01:25 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote: https://eliteediting.com/resources/where-to-find-credible-sources-for-your-research-paper/
CNN I do not watch or listen. See I can go on any Wikipedia and change everything.  Also this I have two college degrees.

Well you can also watch documentaries of first-hand accounts instead than relying in books, word of mouth has greater weight.
But i think you might have misunderstood, the reason that i havent given referencing to books, because wikipedia has them included on most pages at the end of the page, i know what you are expecting of me, i have done dozens of bibliographies for my essays.

(02-10-2019, 06:42 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:

(02-10-2019, 03:07 AM)geyu29 Wrote:

(02-10-2019, 01:25 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote: https://eliteediting.com/resources/where-to-find-credible-sources-for-your-research-paper/
CNN I do not watch or listen. See I can go on any Wikipedia and change everything.  Also this I have two college degrees.

Well you can also watch documentaries of first-hand accounts instead than relying in books, word of mouth has greater weight.
But i think you might have misunderstood, the reason that i havent given referencing to books, because wikipedia has them included on most pages at the end of the page, i know what you are expecting of me, i have done dozens of bibliographies for my essays.

yes true I was expecting that you write many research papers.      

(02-10-2019, 08:10 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: It depends on your opinions and which " side " your on. There are many pros and cons to all wars. Some have more than others, but the bottom line is, it's war. No matter what happens, who's leader of what, or what gets put into play, war is going to happen. It's human nature. There are literally hundreds of reasons for war.

Scientifically speaking, World Peace is impossible. As humans are animals, we have animal behaviors, and even use our intellectual properties to improve on those behaviors ( causing things such as war ).
However, this is also what brought us things such has commercialization, and global manufacturing. Ensuring more people can get the food, and clothing they need, so much so, it's almost made hunting animals " rare "

Overall I just let it happen, and don't let it bother me. As long as it isn't something like another WW starts. Which, based on historian's predictions, should start somewhere in between 2025, and 2035.
( not quite sure how they do it though, so take it with a grain of salt )

(02-10-2019, 08:43 PM)geyu29 Wrote:

(02-10-2019, 08:10 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: It depends on your opinions and which " side " your on. There are many pros and cons to all wars. Some have more than others, but the bottom line is, it's war. No matter what happens, who's leader of what, or what gets put into play, war is going to happen. It's human nature. There are literally hundreds of reasons for war.

Scientifically speaking, World Peace is impossible. As humans are animals, we have animal behaviors, and even use our intellectual properties to improve on those behaviors ( causing things such as war ).
However, this is also what brought us things such has commercialization, and global manufacturing. Ensuring more people can get the food, and clothing they need, so much so, it's almost made hunting animals " rare "

Overall I just let it happen, and don't let it bother me. As long as it isn't something like another WW starts. Which, based on historian's predictions, should start somewhere in between 2025, and 2035.
( not quite sure how they do it though, so take it with a grain of salt )

I have a feeling you've learnt Hobbes' a little bit.

But politically speaking, dont you think people should have right to vote to enter a war or not? practically it might create further internal tension if there is confusion but nonetheless it is a possibility, but it should be the choice of the civilian to enter to support the armed forced. Where has bush and tony blair gone? they set up fixed interviews from time to time which i think is really funny - only answering questions to what they feel is worth answering, i would like some veterans to have a live interview with Bush or Blair.

Secondly, if a country is in civil war, by human nature they would be more lenient to maintaining their power within their country, rather having an external force with completely different political influence, policy, belief and values which create further decline in coming to a peaceful solution. The British in Afghanistan tried to have stronghold in kabul around 1839, they were thrown out, this happened multiple times while they were heading back to India their 'company' were slaughtered by afghan fighters, and similar events happening all because these 'colonials' who wish to rule over a people are not appreciated, the people in kabul and afghanistan took to the streets and tensions built up.

When you say globalization, that had different outlook from the early centuries than what we see now, hong kong is one of those examples. I don't think you can make a sweeping statement and say that wars HAVE brought commercialization. For Iraq, how much commercialism do you need to make money to invest on its own people with one of the largest oil reserves in the world. Wars have also brought destruction of history and loss of life, which people often not speak of although it is rhetorical, its important to state the obvious.

Thirdly, they had a doomsday clock during the cold war since 1947, i think economics and the economy will be the root cause of a third world war, trade wars will continue for some decades for sure. But a world war i dont think we will see in our lifetime i hope, but migration and economy will influence alot of the international co-operation and creating new Bloc's. Brexit in UK gave the power of UK to Germany, and now the leader of europe is germany.

But i have to disagree with your human nature analogy, because ive come across different kinds of people from different parts of the world, and believe me not everybody aspires to have more than they have, in some countries it is a societal value to live a certain quality of life, like having enough food to eat 3 times a day which is enough for them, they may even have farms to feed themselves, Mongolia, Kazakhtan. But if i go into a country like australia, you will see a 'homeless' guy talking on an iphone (yes, an iphone), or UAE where money means alot of respect which is technically bought with wealth. And i think you are only referring to world war with your analogy not people in general.

(02-10-2019, 09:11 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: Thats not what I was saying at all. Lol. You completely misunderstood.

I was talking about human nature. Our natural, or " animal " instincts.
Hunting, Eating, Getting Shelter, Clothes, Etc.
These are all in our natural instincts.
If you would have read what I stated a bit more closely, you'll see I said
" As humans are animals, we have animal behaviors, and even use our intellectual properties to improve on those behaviors ( causing things such as war ).
However, this is also what brought us things such has commercialization, and global manufacturing. Ensuring more people can get the food, and clothing they need "

Meaning, because we are more intelligent than most species of animals, we have turned smaller things, such has small groups of animals fighting, to all out wars.
However, using that same intelligence us humans have, we have been able to improve other natural instincts needs, such has the need for food, water, or clothing.

And my " Human Nature Analogy " is very real. If we didn't have a natural instinct to mate, almost no one would be mating. Everyone has them, they just do different things to fill that need.

(02-10-2019, 09:47 PM)geyu29 Wrote: [quote='Trilly Reign' pid='859750' dateline='1549829497']

I suggest you read on the studies of behaviourism by neurologists (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622749/) if you dont agree with philosophy.

(02-26-2019, 09:35 PM)AnnaSmit Wrote: Today wars seem meaningless at first glance, but in reality, they are for economy, resources, and influences. And it's a shame now that they start when someone wants it. The world community cannot stop this process. Few restrictions and a lot of grief and confusion.