[geyu29]

I know the first thing that came to your mind was US. i think that would be unfair to target just one country, although it is a superpower and has much greater influence.

The question is, the wars taking place today, Iraq (2 million), Afghanistan (2m), Rohingya in Burma, Columbian war between governments and insurgents (200,000 deaths), Syria (500,000). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_on..._conflicts)
Especially those that are started from external forces, what is the common man of that country thinking? thank you for invading our country and killing our people with 'collateral damage' as if its the norm. You might not remember Vietnam, but american soldiers threw their medals over the white house lawn, those that refused to follow orders of their superior in the US army were nicknamed 'grunts'. Although it took Nixon and the others years to pull-out, the vietnamese dug tunnels to protect themselves from bombs, and who knows it could have been another north korea in the making.

But lets come to most recent wars, politicians dont care about democracy, millions of people protested just in 2002-2003 and nobody cared. All the attention came to propaganda though media that all is going well. Did politicians listen? And did anybody ask Bush if he found his rockets? The iraq war has its beginning from the 80s, bush senior first gave the impression of invading iraq. And what happened to the reports found on how many corporations benefited from the oil reserves.

And how greatly does the media come into play, do you wanna know about kardashians or iraq/afghanistan?

Although you cant stop wars, civil wars in particular, foreign powers ARE going to protect their interests. But full-on invasion has never done any good. Iraq and Syria in particular are filled with insurgency groups, you can say theres one in every city with a different name. Why should the country not spend on its own people (if there are no homeless people, then maybe) but why should we not protect our own borders than the others.
Can we say that current wars have a greater cause to fight than the World Wars? Bakers, mechanics, the common man went to fight. In US it was often said that after vietnam there would be less generations of soldiers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixOyiR8B-8)
You think they would have the balls to enforce another draft/conscription for another war?
Its easy to vote for a candidate, but politicians, no matter how smart, dont realise the humane aspect, what the soldier thinks, what people think but only what they think is right. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNtQtiFz_dc)

[Dismas]

One parallel between Vietnam and the Middle East is the use of guerilla warfare. Neither were wars where the US wanted to annex territory either, therefore there is an element of stagnation.

[geyu29]

One parallel between Vietnam and the Middle East is the use of guerilla warfare. Neither were wars where the US wanted to annex territory either, therefore there is an element of stagnation.

Yes, but they didnt forget the oil, the millions of lives of civillians, and most importantly the historical sites that were destroyed. (https://www.quora.com/Which-individuals-...n-Iraq-How)

Guerullla warfare by definition is the same for both wars. Vietnam insurgency in north grew in numbers each year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s...th_Vietnam). Iraq war had multiple stages of insurgency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_insurgency). Afghanistan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afg...insurgency

Vietnam split because of support of different leaders, in the 50s north and south forces fought anti-communist, the french wanted to reclaim the territory and supported by the US. When the vietnam just declared independence in 1945 from france.
There are so many details. It was a full scale war against a nation. For Iraq they could have simply cordoned baghdad and killed saddam and his allies.

[darkninja1980]

well to be honest with you. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Because people can edit it.

[geyu29]

well to be honest with you. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Because people can edit it.

People must link news/stories/other sources and add it onto the wikipedia page so it can be verified. Maybe cnn is reliable?


If you dont believe a part of the wikipedia page, you can easily click on the reference and verify it yourself, and use search engines if you are still not satisfied. Or call the Martians if you are still have doubt lol. But doubt is sometimes good when opinions are forced.

[darkninja1980]

https://eliteediting.com/resources/where...rch-paper/
CNN I do not watch or listen. See I can go on any Wikipedia and change everything. Also this I have two college degrees.

[mothered]

Have wars become meaningless?

In a nutshell, I suppose It depends on how one perceives and process the Information at the time.

[geyu29]

Have wars become meaningless?

In a nutshell, I suppose It depends on how one perceives and process the Information at the time.

Yes, and its important that we understand before we contribute in the electoral or any other part of the government.
Whats amazing to me is millions around the world protested during 2002-2003, and no leader gave a damn, including the european leaders (like they had a choice anyway)

There must have been reasons for the protests right? Nobody in the government gave any evidence to the public, just hysteria like the cold war.

[geyu29]

https://eliteediting.com/resources/where...rch-paper/
CNN I do not watch or listen. See I can go on any Wikipedia and change everything.  Also this I have two college degrees.

Well you can also watch documentaries of first-hand accounts instead than relying in books, word of mouth has greater weight.
But i think you might have misunderstood, the reason that i havent given referencing to books, because wikipedia has them included on most pages at the end of the page, i know what you are expecting of me, i have done dozens of bibliographies for my essays.

[mothered]

Have wars become meaningless?

In a nutshell, I suppose It depends on how one perceives and process the Information at the time.

Yes, and its important that we understand before we contribute in the electoral or any other part of the government.
Whats amazing to me is millions around the world protested during 2002-2003, and no leader gave a damn, including the european leaders (like they had a choice anyway)

There must have been reasons for the protests right? Nobody in the government gave any evidence to the public, just hysteria like the cold war.

Absolutely.

You've nailed It with the following comment:

Yes, and its important that we understand before we contribute in the electoral or any other part of the government.