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tiered achievements - Inori - 07-22-2015
There's a lot of cool stuff from camp that I think could be incorporated into SL, so before I leave for another month, I'd like to introduce my idea of a tiered achievement system.
At camp, we have an award system that ranges from 3rds(easy to obtain) to 1sts(goddamn near impossible), with some activities having awards in between (opti award [sailing] is easier than thirds, Saddle Club award [ride] is between 3rds and 2nds, etc).
If you get anything below seconds (ie, there's no formal test), it's announced in the dining hall and your section does a cheer for you. But for Seconds and Firsts, which are called "high class" awards, the head instructor (or co-heads) call you up and give you a speech. This July, after 3 years, I got my seconds in Climbing and both myself and Tess (head climb) cried after she finished the speech. Obviously, it wouldn't be as emotional here. (and yes, I'm aware of the fact that I now sound like a total wimp, but check out this article that the Director wrote explaining what I mean)
What I propose is a list of criteria for certain SL-related stuff (hacking, coding, gaming, gfx, etc..) that members can complete to earn the achievement they're after (obviously, knowledge you can google isn't included).
Spoiler: example: coding(definitely not final)
3rds:
write a hello world program in 3 languages
write a program that sorts arrays/lists
list 10 methods in any language
write 1 tutorial for any language
2nds:
debug a 200 line program in 20 minutes
write 5 tutorials
be fluent in 2 languages
know the parts of an interpreter
1sts:
refactor a 150 line program to < 80 lines in 1 hour
create a web page utilizing JS, HTML, CSS, and PHP in 45 minutes
write 10 tutorials
know 5 languages fluently
write a hello world program in 3 languages
write a program that sorts arrays/lists
list 10 methods in any language
write 1 tutorial for any language
2nds:
debug a 200 line program in 20 minutes
write 5 tutorials
be fluent in 2 languages
know the parts of an interpreter
1sts:
refactor a 150 line program to < 80 lines in 1 hour
create a web page utilizing JS, HTML, CSS, and PHP in 45 minutes
write 10 tutorials
know 5 languages fluently
as demonstrated in my example, 3rds is easy(ish) and the high class awards are harder and have timed challenges (in place of a formal test).
It's just a bit of an idea right now, but I'm hoping that others can build on it and that it takes off.
RE: tiered achievements - Eclipse - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 07:26 PM)Chitoge Wrote: write 10 tutorials
know 5 languages fluently
Well that escalated...
RE: tiered achievements - Crypt - 07-22-2015
This is an interesting idea, I'm all for it.
However you could slide your way out of some of these, you can write shitty tutorials and for the create a webpage in 1sts you could just do something dumb like this -
Code:
<html>
<head>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css.css">
</head>
<body onload="alert('hello')">
<?="hello"; ?>
</body>
</html>RE: tiered achievements - Inori - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 09:11 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Well that escalated...
As I stated in my intro, Firsts are hard as fuck. I think there were 3 kids out of 47 in my section who had their firsts in anything.
(07-22-2015, 09:21 PM)Crypt Wrote: This is an interesting idea, I'm all for it.
However you could slide your way out of some of these, you can write shitty tutorials and for the create a webpage in 1sts you could just do something dumb like this -
Code:<html> <head> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css.css"> </head> <body onload="alert('hello')"> <?="hello"; ?> </body> </html>
The tutorials, web pages, and other challenge stuff would be judged by someone (probably Oni or other staff) to avoid such fuckery.
RE: tiered achievements - Satan - 07-22-2015
This would either require a plugin coded, or tons of new awards filling the page. Not to mention the fact that either way you'd have to remake the awards and their graphics to differentiate.
RE: tiered achievements - Inori - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 09:27 PM)Six Wrote: This would either require a plugin coded, or tons of new awards filling the page. Not to mention the fact that either way you'd have to remake the awards and their graphics to differentiate.
I was thinking about that and decided another system would better fit it, hence "achievement" not "award". This would probably clear up a lot of unneeded confusion.
RE: tiered achievements - Eclipse - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 09:25 PM)Chitoge Wrote: As I stated in my intro, Firsts are hard as fuck. I think there were 3 kids out of 47 in my section who had their firsts in anything.
What I meant is that 10 tutorials is nothing difficult. Five languages fluently is. They're in completely different leagues.
RE: tiered achievements - Inori - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 10:17 PM)Eclipse Wrote: What I meant is that 10 tutorials is nothing difficult. Five languages fluently is. They're in completely different leagues.
I understand that. Those weren't finalized criteria, just examples.
RE: tiered achievements - Satan - 07-22-2015
(07-22-2015, 09:32 PM)Chitoge Wrote: I was thinking about that and decided another system would better fit it, hence "achievement" not "award". This would probably clear up a lot of unneeded confusion.
that would probably require a custom plugin, which unless you make it yourself for free, I doubt Oni would want to pay for something like that without any real return from it.
RE: tiered achievements - mothered - 07-23-2015
I like the Idea, however the "1sts" would be quite an arduous task and probably out of the question for most, If not all members here on Sinisterly.
I for one, don't know 5 different languages fluently, but can achieve the rest. It still doesn't suffice It's needs, hence I've failed.
Don't get me wrong the format of It as a whole Is great, but In my views, It may need to be structured a little differently.