[Night Owl]

I want to learn php or html what should i learn first ?
(of course for hacking purposes)

[Nefarious]

I've been told learning HTML helps with PHP, even though HTML isn't a language.

But my wife Star says that PHP teaches bad habits.

[Adorapuff]

Learn Python. Great for exploit coding.

[Cyanide and Cynicism]

HTML is simply a markup language, it's really optional to learn it but it helps for actually being constructive. PHP is useful for actually reading and exploiting code however it isn't good for actually designing things unless it's required for a job (which is likely, because it's popular). If you're looking to actually write code learn Perl and/or C.

But my wife Star says that PHP teaches bad habits.

Very true, PHP is basically a VB-ish version of Perl designed for people who suck at coding (read the docs, it actually was made for that purpose). It's very useful for reading its code and exploiting it but it does teach bad habits and loses a lot of benefits of it's father language, which is why I love Perl.

Learn Python. Great for exploit coding.

You disgust me.

[Night Owl]

Thanks for the comments, so i dont need to be expert html coder for hacking ? basics of html enough right ?, I should learn php then.

[Phizo]

PHP is going to be more useful in the long run, and undoubtedly required for being efficient in web-hacking.
You can pick up HTML within a few days; it isn't too difficult to learn.

Read everything on tizag, read about programming practices and review benchmarking results.
Read others' code, criticise it and write better code. Henceforth, refer to the PHP documentation; it will be all you need at this point in time, both for learning and reference.

[Oni]

Thanks for the comments, so i dont need to be expert html coder for hacking ? basics of html enough right ?, I should learn php then.

HTML won't really help you "hack" anything. Might help you make an ugly deface page or something like that, but it isn't a programming language.

[yokai_old]

HTML won't really help you "hack" anything. Might help you make an ugly deface page or something like that, but it isn't a programming language.

HTML is useful.

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PHP is going to be more useful in the long run, and undoubtedly required for being efficient in web-hacking.
You can pick up HTML within a few days; it isn't too difficult to learn.

Read everything on tizag, read about programming practices and review benchmarking results.
Read others' code, criticise it and write better code. Henceforth, refer to the PHP documentation; it will be all you need at this point in time, both for learning and reference.

Can you recommend anywhere to start learning how to hack with PHP? And maybe any good places to start with anti-proxy prevention. Thanks

[Phizo]

HTML is useful.

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Can you recommend anywhere to start learning how to hack with PHP? And maybe any good places to start with anti-proxy prevention. Thanks

PHP Security is a bit old and short, but it's great for beginners. If you want something more detailed, new and lengthy, I would recommend Pro PHP Security, 2nd Edition.
Anti-proxy is an ambiguous term; enlighten me as to what you're referring to.

[Dev]

I want to learn php or html what should i learn first ?
(of course for hacking purposes)

take html & javascript w/css & make something simple, All of these languages run together with php, PHP is the hardest & the most time consuming, Ruby on rails is a program built around the PHP construct, html, css, Jquery, Java & javascript all Co-ordinate with PHP. If you can figure out how to construct one web language, the Larger ones will be easier to retain.

I would suggest getting an e-book or something to explain the purpose of code, What I mean is that a book will go into detail about the exterior, It'll Explain it to you in a Hack friendly way, Like most hackers you are Curious, Probably a little obsessive, If you want to find an exploit, you need to read about each languages weaknesses & why they have them.

as for an HTML based site it'll tell you how to put the code together *10 year olds can do this*

PHP on the other-hand is practically pure hacking in one sense.. but without knowing each type of Codes element you'll Find it hard & frustrating to find exploits, Ultimately Starting low & going high will help you out & it should save you time & effort.