[Mindset]

OFF TOPIC POSTING IS AGAINST THE RULES. POST REMOVED ~STAFF (RS)

[Blunt]

Smoking marijuana is illegal and for a good reason.

You have a tiny little fed penis.

[dopamine]

You have a tiny little fed penis.

He is not wrong actually. Marijuana is illegal for a good reason. Its illegal for profit of our government. Profit from all those pharmaceuticals we don't really need. Opium is illegal for the same reason. 90% pharma is based on Opium or Cannabis. Make both legal, throw out 90% pharma meds, big loss because anyone can grow weed and opium.

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Remission and cure are two TOTALLY different words. Either way, that argument has no effect on the topic of this thread.

We don't need to look for reasons for marijuana to be legal. We need a real reason for the government WHY THE FUCK IT IS ILLEGAL?

Did you know that the number three murderers in the world are:
- Tobacco industry
- Alcohol industry
- Pharmaceuticals

And fourth and fifth are Criminals and drug overdose, then accidents.

[roger_smith]

There is a point I want to make regarding the "pharma" and "natural" argument.

Is Aspirin pharma or natural?
Is Sativex pharma or natural?

It's kind of hard to make that a hard line, because after all morphine is derived from opium, which is natural. Sativex is an extract made from cannabis, but is still a pharma. Aspirin has been around since 1897, and willow trees hold the active ingredient in their bark.

I'm all about avoiding pharma as much as possible, but I also understand that sometimes popping an antibiotic when I have a bad infection is a lot better option than waiting to see if my immune system can take care of it without causing damage. I have some scars around my eye from a nasty staph infection that I waited too long to address. Luckily it didn't get into my eye socket, but infected spider bites are bad news, and I may have had further complications if I hadn't started antibiotics.

I understand the mistrust for the govt, esp with a lot of things that have come to light w/ spying practice, and the obvious hypocrisy around cannabis (off topic, did you know the US GOV has a patent on THC for treating inflammation? Remember, Sched 1 = no medical value). However, the Alex Jones tinfoil crowd have plenty to gain from lying to you and/or striking fear into you as well. AJ is CONSTANTLY peddling his snake oil and sponsors products on his site and talk show.

Always do your own research, and always make sure you draw your own conclusion, and not the one someone of force feeding you.

[A5^]

They get prescribed Oxycodone, Valium, Xanax, Tramadol and other pain killers? After serious operation, they give you morphine to ease the pain and you're high as fuck that is OK but the fact that I am now on synthetic cannabinoids is not.

Valium and Xanax are both benzodiazepines and in no way help with pain. They are used as pre-op anesthesia, as anxiolytics and anticonvulsants (among other uses). The only way I can see a benzo helping with pain is via the muscle relaxant effects, or in combination with an opioid as a means to potentate the opioid.

In USA you have Ritalin(methylphenidate(20% l-amphetamine, 80% d-amphetamine)

Methylphenidate is a chemical unto itself and though it shares a similar mechanism of action to amphetamines, it is not a combination of l/d-amphetamine. That preparation is sold under the brand name Adderall.

stop spewing shit, lol

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Bro pharmas is good. They increase your lifespan. We should stay away from all the natural medicine such as Cannabis and Opium. We should only use the synthetic man made medicine, after all they don't have like 1000 side effects which no one seem to care about.

Moreover, as you brought up in the OP, kids are being prescribed morphine. Morphine and codeine are the two primary psychoactive constituents of the opium poppy. Hydrocodone and hydromorphone are also semi-synthetics, derived from thebaine, which is also a constituent of the opium poppy. Need I mention that all opioids have the potential for physical dependance, respiratory depression, and the likes? Ibuprofen may thin your blood for the duration of it's action, but you cannot develop a physical dependance on it like an opioid painkiller. NSAID medications, like ibuprofen, are superior to opioids for this reason - they lack dependance and abuse liability. Ibuprofen is not meant to be taken daily, in fact, unless prescribed so, it is usually used as needed for moderate pain.

This is not to say that opioids do not have a place in modern healthcare. They very much do, for sufferers of severe chronic pain. Tramadol, which you claim is synthetic in the OP (protip - can be found in nature, refer to http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.10...917.f04t01) has a dual mechanism of action as an SNRI and opioid agonist, increasing it's efficacy in those who are either intolerant to more potent, classical opioids, or in some with neuropathic pain, in which dual reuptake inhibitors has been found to be effective.

[Arthur Curry]

Because every single cat in the world lives exactly the same amount of time and this is why when giving ibuprofen to cats the scientists were able to find out that ibuprofen increases lifespan. (The machine used to monitor how long cat will live increased the time by 10 minutes each time a pill was given)

Oni, please start thinking.

Ok first of all the article is in PLoS -- it is open source, so why don't you do less thinking and more reading.

"We have described in detail elsewhere the methodology for elutriation experiments [48], birth size measurements [49] and RLS assays [13]. The smoothened cell size histograms we show are the splines of the corresponding raw data, generated with the R software package “lattice”. All RLS experiments were carried out on standard YPD plates."

The assays were not done on cats. They were done on yeast. The article also mentions "flies and worms" being used. These are almost definitely the model organisms Drosophila melanogaster and Caenorhabilis elegans. All of these organisms have very well-characterized life cycles that are easily studied in situ microscopically. C. elegans has been used to study pharmacokinetics for years because it is a very well-developed system to study endosome formation and trafficking, receptor recycling, and tissue specificity. Where the fuck did you get cats from?

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It actually is known to cure 7 different kinds of cancer these days brah, at least put it in remission.

This is utter bullshit. Marijuana has never been shown to cure cancer. At best is has been shown to slow tumorigenesis, but even those studies have not had true conclusive evidence. If the mindless dribble you are spewing were even remotely true then we would see a slew of articles in Cell/Science/Nature attesting to those facts. Marijuana is an antiemetic - sure, an analgesic - yes, a cure for cancer - no.

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Marijuana harms your lungs? My grandfather has the smokers(tobacco) caugh. Marijuana harm is not worth mentioning while Tobacco is legal. Marijuana harm is a spit in the ocean compared to Tobacco.

Does fucking marijuana cause this: http://www.simcoemuskokahealth.org/Libra....sflb.ashx ? No, but tobacco and alcohol sure as hell does!

You are a complete dolt. Marijuana has been shown to increase the risks of: squamous cell carcinoma (skin cancer), rhabdomyosarcoma (muscle cancer), myeloid leukemia (bone marrow cancer), and of course pulmonary carcinoma (lung cancer). So yes, marijuana almost definitely can cause cancer in the squamous epithelium of the mouth.

[Oni]

Ok first of all the article is in PLoS -- it is open source, so why don't you do less thinking and more reading.

"We have described in detail elsewhere the methodology for elutriation experiments [48], birth size measurements [49] and RLS assays [13]. The smoothened cell size histograms we show are the splines of the corresponding raw data, generated with the R software package “lattice”. All RLS experiments were carried out on standard YPD plates."

The assays were not done on cats. They were done on yeast. The article also mentions "flies and worms" being used. These are almost definitely the model organisms Drosophila melanogaster and Caenorhabilis elegans. All of these organisms have very well-characterized life cycles that are easily studied in situ microscopically. C. elegans has been used to study pharmacokinetics for years because it is a very well-developed system to study endosome formation and trafficking, receptor recycling, and tissue specificity. Where the fuck did you get cats from?

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This is utter bullshit. Marijuana has never been shown to cure cancer. At best is has been shown to slow tumorigenesis, but even those studies have not had true conclusive evidence. If the mindless dribble you are spewing were even remotely true then we would see a slew of articles in Cell/Science/Nature attesting to those facts. Marijuana is an antiemetic - sure, an analgesic - yes, a cure for cancer - no.

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You are a complete dolt. Marijuana has been shown to increase the risks of: squamous cell carcinoma (skin cancer), rhabdomyosarcoma (muscle cancer), myeloid leukemia (bone marrow cancer), and of course pulmonary carcinoma (lung cancer). So yes, marijuana almost definitely can cause cancer in the squamous epithelium of the mouth.

Thank you for clearing that up. Getting really tired of the potheads saying that it cures cancer and other ridiculous stuff. It might help with the pain, but it definitely isn't a cure.

[EXiLE]

While I highly condone the use of Marijuana for its pleasant effects, it's not some sort of miracle drug. Sure, it can relieve you of physical (and sometimes mental if you're a depressed fuck) and many other temporary issues, but it sure as hell isn't going to remove tumors or suddenly eat gangrene. Besides, frequent use in large amounts can cause mental disorders

But then again, what is there that you can never have to much of? Not alot.

[dopamine]

Random shit he read online from government and pharma sponsored websites.

You must be out of your mind brain washed monkey.

Woow morphine is addicting? No fucking shit sherlock. Its addicting because it makes you feel so bloody fucking amazing. Using it for headache, you would need less than 1mg would remove the headache in 1 second would give you absolutely no high. Thus no chance at all for dependence. You don't even know what addiction is and how it develops and why it develops.

Also blood thinner ibuprofen does it permanently. This nigga was taking aspirin daily(to check how harmful it is) for a year. He had to do operation and doctors refused to operate because his blood was so fucking thin that it was dangerous to his mother fucking life. BLOOD THINNING DRUGS ARE GOOD. GO DRINK THEM, THEY INCREASE LIFESPAN!

Go listen more to government while I live long healthy and self medicate.

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While I highly condone the use of Marijuana for its pleasant effects, it's not some sort of miracle drug. Sure, it can relieve you of physical (and sometimes mental if you're a depressed fuck) and many other temporary issues, but it sure as hell isn't going to remove tumors or suddenly eat gangrene. Besides, frequent use in large amounts can cause mental disorders

But then again, what is there that you can never have to much of? Not alot.

Wiz Khalifa who smokes per day more than most of us in a year totally has his lungs fucked up, face fucked up and has mental disorders such as severe autism and other shit. Did you know he is unable to walk and other shit? Yeah.. sure thing bro. Oh also, he is murderer and rapist like government says u become.

Funny how doctor told him to stop smoking blunts(tobacco paper around marijuana) if he wants to continue smoking so much marijuana. The tobacco was killing him, so he stopped. Its something you pathetic cigarette smokers cant do. Tobacco is fucking GLUE to your lungs. Cant you low life addicted SMELLY shits understand that?He is probably one of the largest rasta man on the fucking world and u still believe marijuana is dangerous? LMFAO.

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Methylphenidate is a chemical unto itself and though it shares a similar mechanism of action to amphetamines, it is not a combination of l/d-amphetamine. That preparation is sold under the brand name Adderall.

stop spewing shit, lol

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Woow u caught me. Methylphenidate is shit perscribed to kids with weak adhd. Adderal and Dexedrine to stronger ADHD. Meth to most powerful ADHD. I did my home work. U happy?

[tropic]

The reason for my username attention-whoring.

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