[meow]

This thread is meant to be a debate thread, I'm willing to debate anyone on their view and elaborate on my own. Please don't vote in the poll without at least posting on why you chose what you did.

In my opinion, racial diversity within a society is meaningless and even has negative consequences.

[Panther_]

If you are forcing certain standards on society such as racial diversity, you are a dirty authoritarian. If we look at this from an employment perspective it is completely irrational. If there is a quota of diversity to meet you you can affect the bottom line be being forced to employ some one who is ill equip for the job. It gets more serious when you consider things like that imposed on the police force/fire service/medial system.

[meow]

If you are forcing certain standards on society such as racial diversity, you are a dirty authoritarian. If we look at this from an employment perspective it is completely irrational. If there is a quota of diversity to meet you you can affect the bottom line be being forced to employ some one who is ill equip for the job. It gets more serious when you consider things like that imposed on the police force/fire service/medial system.

Yeah, I agree. There have been lawsuits in the past against companies in the US for being "too white". I personally find this completely fucking retarded, as most companies in the US are obviously going to have a majority white employee base considering whites are the majority in that country. Not to mention the fact that Caucasians are (in general) genetically superior regarding intellect (will provide citation if asked) to everyone except Asians.

[Eclipse]

Not to mention the fact that Caucasians are (in general) genetically superior regarding intellect (will provide citation if asked) to everyone except Asians.

[meow]

Not to mention the fact that Caucasians are (in general) genetically superior regarding intellect (will provide citation if asked) to everyone except Asians.

Spoiler:

You can ask for a source and I can provide it or you can keep pretending I'm wrong and making yourself look stupid by posting memes. I win either way so I'll let you pick your poison.

[Eclipse]

Not to mention the fact that Caucasians are (in general) genetically superior regarding intellect (will provide citation if asked) to everyone except Asians.

Spoiler:

You can ask for a source and I can provide it or you can keep pretending I'm wrong and making yourself look stupid by posting memes. I win either way so I'll let you pick your poison.

oshit this nigga serious

Go on then, what's your source?

[meow]

Spoiler:

You can ask for a source and I can provide it or you can keep pretending I'm wrong and making yourself look stupid by posting memes. I win either way so I'll let you pick your poison.

oshit this nigga serious

Go on then, what's your source?

These are statistical sources, mind you (numbers don't lie). If you say "institutional racism" just be prepared for me to tell you to kill yourself.

http://www.iq-tests.eu/iq-test-IQ-correlations-700.html
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...main-large
http://www.rense.com/general79/dut.htm
http://www.rense.com/general77/racedif.htm
https://libertarianrealist.blogspot.com/...tions.html (yeah I know it's a blog, but just look at the charts)
http://www.jbhe.com/latest/news/1-22-09/...figure.gif

If you want to know why Africans will always be on bottom with regards to intellect, I can provide you several scientific sources for that (science doesn't lie either).

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Oh look, two people voted in the poll without saying why because they're afraid of their opinions being challenged. How great.

[Gary Oak]

I don't really live in a society where racial diversity is important. Whether or not I deem it important to have diversity in races, then also no. I do not see why any of this even matter? For a person like me who gives no fucks about what you look like, I could not give five fucks for racial diversity.
Some people might find it needed, but are they not the people feeling threatened by other races? Come on, our society should be evolved enough soon to see past such common things.

[Eclipse]

These are statistical sources, mind you (numbers don't lie). If you say "institutional racism" just be prepared for me to tell you to kill yourself.

http://www.iq-tests.eu/iq-test-IQ-correlations-700.html
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...main-large
http://www.rense.com/general79/dut.htm
http://www.rense.com/general77/racedif.htm
https://libertarianrealist.blogspot.com/...tions.html (yeah I know it's a blog, but just look at the charts)
http://www.jbhe.com/latest/news/1-22-09/...figure.gif

If you want to know why Africans will always be on bottom with regards to intellect, I can provide you several scientific sources for that (science doesn't lie either).

> These are statistical sources, mind you (numbers don't lie)
You have studied statistics at least on a basic level, right? Because from that quote, it looks like you haven't.

> just be prepared for me to tell you to kill yourself
That's not very nice.

> http://www.iq-tests.eu/iq-test-IQ-correlations-700.html
Tiny little site that's "partners" with three different flash games. Not a reliable source. The chart looks like it was made in paint by an eight year old, but what I can make out on it, African Americans and Hispanics are around fifteen IQ points behind Caucasians. From [1], "...being raised by high-SES (socioeconomic status) parents led to an IQ boost of between 12 and 16 points". On average, African Americans have a lower SES than Caucasians. From [2], "As of 2009, the median black male income was $23,738, compared to the median white non-Hispanic male income of $36,785".

> https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...main-large
From your own source, "as has been the case for years, students from wealthier families score better than do those from disadvantaged families" and "the lowest average scores were those with less than $20,000 in family income, and the highest averages were those with more than $200,000". We can nicely tie up this with [4], "The typical black household now has just 6% of the wealth of the typical white household; the typical Latino household has just 8%".

> http://www.rense.com/general79/dut.htm
> http://www.rense.com/general77/racedif.htm
Legit this is the site you're citing: http://rense.com/ The homepage features ways that you can survive the nuclear apocalypse, "the cleansing", pseudoscience medication, UFO sightings, Mars and ET, along with an interesting theory about what really happened to Hitler. But, you know let's look at it anyway. Source [3] is from the New York Times, and is a thorough refutation of your source. Quoted from the article, "...the evidence heavily favors the view that race differences in I.Q. are environmental in origin, not genetic. The hereditarians begin with the assertion that 60 percent to 80 percent of variation in I.Q. is genetically determined. However, most estimates of heritability have been based almost exclusively on studies of middle-class groups".

"That environment can markedly influence I.Q. is demonstrated by the so-called Flynn Effect. James Flynn, a philosopher and I.Q. researcher in New Zealand, has established that in the Western world as a whole, I.Q. increased markedly from 1947 to 2002. In the United States alone, it went up by 18 points. Our genes could not have changed enough over such a brief period to account for the shift; it must have been the result of powerful social factors. And if such factors could produce changes over time for the population as a whole, they could also produce big differences between subpopulations at any given time."

> http://www.jbhe.com/latest/news/1-22-09/...figure.gif
Nice of you to post the image instead of the actual article: http://www.jbhe.com/latest/news/1-22-09/satgap.html
The actual conclusion your own source came to was "we are still comparing black and white students who are [...] different [...] in terms of educational sophistication, family educational heritage, family wealth, and access to educational tools and resources. The average white family in the same income group is far better equipped than the average black family to prepare their children for success on the SAT test. "

> https://libertarianrealist.blogspot.co.u...tions.html
The first graph is saying pretty much the same thing as your first source, but this time it's been heavily skewed to look dis-favourable to the African American population. It says that the average African American's IQ is about fifteen points behind the average Caucasian, and that's an argument that I've already addressed above. The rest of the blog post just tells us what IQ means and what it predicts (lol), with the exception of the last screenshot, which compares the brain sizes of different races (laughably with no sources or context. It's simply a screenshot taken from god knows where). Sources [5] and [6] refute the view that brain size and intelligence are correlated, while [7] highlights some interesting and hilarious examples of brain-sizes in different individuals, and says that scientists are divided and we should probably wait "until we know more about all the exact mechanisms of brain growth".

So basically, all you've really said is that white people are generally well-off, or at least more-so than black people. That's something we all already know.

> If you want to know why Africans will always be on bottom with regards to intellect, I can provide you several scientific sources for that (science doesn't lie either).
I look forward to it.

[1] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arch...iq/275876/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wag...ted_States
[3] http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/opinio...sbett.html
[4] http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/20...d1a20d6c5b
[5] https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/a...ou-smarter
[6] http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-na...-180947627
[7] http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/in...-size2.htm

[Dyme]

This is bait but still ignorant regardless. I expect better from you meow.