[Rick]

Murder is justified because you would have a motive to murder someone. So, what's wrong with murder?

Morality is completely dependent on personal opinion, murder being morally wrong is only wrong when someone uses their opinion to deem it wrong.

How are you more right than someone who claims that murder is morally right?

Morality isn't a personal belief system it's ideas produced by a society

[Rikka]

What about people who do it for pleasure? that's not a really "moral" thing to do.
I get what you mean with if someone deserves it, but let's say that you "think" that someone did something & you murder him because you had solid proof that it was him.
But let's say that the guy/girl was innocent, then you'd have taken an innocent life, just ended it.

There's nothing moral about it, it's a life we're talking about.

[MochiMochi]

And the Serial Killer You think what of those people who want to control life and death the victim's submission sadistic pleasure torture ?
These people are downright hard to catch though they can hurt everyone

[Satan]

Morality isn't so much based on opinion, it is based on what improves the life or well-being of societal members as a whole.

Personally, murder is against my religion, but even before the religion, I didn't see any point in it. It's a rather selfish thing, to murder another person.

Tbh thread seems like an edgelord "look at me im so cool and cold" type thing that an awkward 14 year old would post at 2 in the morning.

But I do hope law enforcement keeps an eye on you.

[Despised]

I never said or implied that someone would do that. Don't know what caused you to ask that question.

Even though a murder may seem okay to you because you had a reason for it, it's generally how other people view it that matters which is what makes it illegal. If this weren't true, then anyone could murder anyone and claim that it's justified and get away with it.

If you're saying you'd murder someone because you don't view it as morally wrong, then you don't know yourself very well. In this case, assuming that you don't view murder as morally right, you'd be murdering someone because you view it as morally wrong. Twain addresses this issue in The Mysterious Stranger.

Sounds like you don't know me very well. I've been struggling with my homicidal urges for a long time now, the only thing that holds me back is the risk of prison. Nothing else. Does it surprise you that someone like me views murder as right?

Could you drop the "badass and edgy" poser act? You're making an embarrassment out of yourself, and everyone here knows it, but only me and @pvnk are willing to confront you about it. You don't look cool to anyone but yourself, I hope you know that.

Unfortunately I suffer from this uncurable disease known as I-don't-give-a-shit. So, no can do.

Be careful with that edge. You should consider suicide.

That's something I expect you to do in all honesty. I'd rather kill.

OP has not taken a philosophy class, but OP wants to pretend he's a profound deep thinker of an issue because he's just such a revolutionary intellectual. I don't even know how to reply to his amazingly constructed arguments so I won't. I don't want to lose anymore brain cells than I already have after reading the majority of his posts on all of his threads, inclusive of this one.

It appears that OP is a massive ______.

I'll let your imagination take its course.

Nothing is worth even replying to on this thread. OP's "arguments" are lacking in every aspect of what an argument should have so what the fuck would I be replying to?

no thx

You're still not banned for your autistic behavior? Fuck outta my thread nigger.

What about people who do it for pleasure? that's not a really "moral" thing to do.
I get what you mean with if someone deserves it, but let's say that you "think" that someone did something & you murder him because you had solid proof that it was him.
But let's say that the guy/girl was innocent, then you'd have taken an innocent life, just ended it.

There's nothing moral about it, it's a life we're talking about.

So? What's wrong with that?

[Despised]

Morality isn't so much based on opinion, it is based on what improves the life or well-being of societal members as a whole.

Personally, murder is against my religion, but even before the religion, I didn't see any point in it. It's a rather selfish thing, to murder another person.

Tbh thread seems like an edgelord "look at me im so cool and cold" type thing that an awkward 14 year old would post at 2 in the morning.

But I do hope law enforcement keeps an eye on you.

Perfect example of a generic sheep among the scum right here. Do you consider suicide also as a "selfish" act?

They may feel free to..

This thread us so retarded lol. 2edgy4me

https://sinister.ly/Thread-Murder-is-not...#pid703786

[Aether]

Do use your brain, will you. Morality is a man-made concept that is defined by the society we live in. It is subjective.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-morality-subjective
When you're trying to have an intellectual debate, copying word by word from a debate website which is split 50/50 doesn't improve your argument.


You, Myself and every human being, does not have the right to determine weather or not to take a life of another human being. There's a reason why the Justice System is in place, and it's in place to deem what's a right consequence for a wrongdoing. There are specific cases where the death penalty should be reinstated for serial killers, serial rapists etc.

It's irrelevant that it's you think it's in human nature to kill thus it should be legal without even needing justification. If you truly believe that murder should be legal even without needing the proper reasoning, explain to me how it would be even possible to have a society. Remember you're more than likely typing your response from your computer/laptop/mobile whilst sitting in a piece of furniture in your home safe and sound.

Explain to me how it would make any sense at all.

[Despised]

Do use your brain, will you. Morality is a man-made concept that is defined by the society we live in. It is subjective.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-morality-subjective
When you're trying to have an intellectual debate, copying word by word from a debate website which is split 50/50 doesn't improve your argument.


You, Myself and every human being, does not have the right to determine weather or not to take a life of another human being. There's a reason why the Justice System is in place, and it's in place to deem what's a right consequence for a wrongdoing. There are specific cases where the death penalty should be reinstated for serial killers, serial rapists etc.

It's irrelevant that it's you think it's in human nature to kill thus it should be legal without even needing justification. If you truly believe that murder should be legal even without needing the proper reasoning, explain to me how it would be even possible to have a society. Remember you're more than likely typing your response from your computer/laptop/mobile whilst sitting in a piece of furniture in your home safe and sound.

Explain to me how it would make any sense at all.

I love how you checked my posts for plagiarization. Can't come up with anything else to prove in my thread? Makes me sad to disappoint you but none of my posts are unless I linked a source, pure coincidence.

There'd still be a society. Just because it's allowed doesn't mean everyone would do it.

[mempodippy]

You can't really say "murder is not morally wrong."
It depends on the nature of the motive. There's only really two reasons murder can be committed. Or a mix of both reasons is also somewhat acceptable.
I see the wrong type of motive as "black murder," and obviously, totally justified (or neutral, I suppose) motives would be called "white murder."

Picking up the nearest firearm and walking into a densely populated place with intent to murder with no personal benefit, but rather a sadistic satisfaction, is black murder. It serves no purpose, goes toward no achievable goal. It ruins families, friendships, relationships, and even traumatizes people for a loooong time. It's selfish and psychotic. Our places of gathering and socializing are supposed to grant us a comfort of safety. They aren't the place for unleashing years of pent up anger, no matter how bad it is.

White murder however, in my eyes, is the murder of a small number of people (or just one), for some kind of beneficial outcome, and not just a sadistic satisfaction. Depending on who it is, it could cross over into the black murder side, and additionally depending on how it's done, it's possible that not much emotional scarring is left, if any at all. Sometimes murder isn't even required. If somebody can kill while keeping a sane state of mind, and factually justify their own murders, then in my eyes, it's absolutely fine. Murder happens all the time, for so many different (arguably subjective) reasons. Politics, war (spec ops, assassinations of powerful military icons, etc etc), hell years ago corporations would hire hits on other rival company owners just to move up the ranks and become more wealthy.

edge lords

[Despised]

You can't really say "murder is not morally wrong."

I did, and I don't see it as wrong.

It depends on the nature of the motive.

There's always a motive. Whether it's for the stimulation aka thrill, to vent frustration or materialistic gain - it's still a motive. You don't do anything for no reason.

There's only really two reasons murder can be committed.

Total bs, lol.

It ruins families, friendships, relationships, and even traumatizes people for a loooong time. It's selfish and psychotic.

And?

Also do you even know what psychotic means? Not psychopathic if that's what you wanted to say.

Our places of gathering and socializing are supposed to grant us a comfort of safety. They aren't the place for unleashing years of pent up anger, no matter how bad it is.

Yet it happens. What makes your opinion more important than those who think otherwise like myself?

edge lords

Singular, please. I seem to be the only non-pussy here who doesn't feel remorse.