RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-08-2016, 04:58 AM
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RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-08-2016, 05:15 AM
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(05-08-2016, 04:58 AM)Killpot Wrote: The context I was speaking in for a "real" language is one that can compile into an executable. And you seemed to imply that PHP is one of those.
Actually, about that...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=php+compile+to+exe
Python isn't meant to be compiled to an exe either.
RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-08-2016, 05:42 AM
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(05-08-2016, 02:29 AM)Killpot Wrote: Any language can be used to create a virus. However, languages like PHP and HTML aren't going to be used to create a virus, you need to learn an actual language like; C++, C, VB.Net, C#, Python, AutoIT, or and language in general. Usually a virus isn't very complex, some can be, but most are just ransomeware, or are just in to destroy shit, which is surprisingly easy.
How the fuck is PHP not a real language..?
(05-08-2016, 03:35 AM)Killpot Wrote: PHP is a server side scripting language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP
And?
(05-08-2016, 04:58 AM)Killpot Wrote: The context I was speaking in for a "real" language is one that can compile into an executable. And you seemed to imply that PHP is one of those.
If that's your definition of a real language than it's extremely flawed; you've even contradicted yourself by using Python as an example of a "real language" considering in 90% (or more) of Python implementations/environments, it's an interpreted language. Only in certain cases such as being complied to byte code for the PVM (even then, it's still not the same as executables that were compiled by gcc/++, etc) and being JIT compiled (for certain optimizations that you don't get with interpretations) will you ever see Python being compiled. However, those cases are a minority.
Also, technically, PHP can be compiled and executed.
RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-08-2016, 09:51 AM
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RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-08-2016, 07:19 PM
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(05-08-2016, 09:51 AM)Oni Wrote: Get off Sinisterly if you don't like PHP.
i LOVE PHP i freaking love it <3
HACKING IS NOT A CRIME, HACKING IS AN ART
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RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-09-2016, 03:45 AM
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Let's also not forget that VB.NET, C# or anything .NET related really is not an actual "executable" per say. It's just MSIL in exe form, interpreted by another library. I love C# a ton, probably the most productive language I've ever personally used (hate VB.NET for other reasons), but it is not a "true" executable that you can get with, say, C, C++, Delphi, etc.
RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-09-2016, 03:56 PM
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(05-09-2016, 03:45 AM)Axari Wrote: Let's also not forget that VB.NET, C# or anything .NET related really is not an actual "executable" per say. It's just MSIL in exe form, interpreted by another library. I love C# a ton, probably the most productive language I've ever personally used (hate VB.NET for other reasons), but it is not a "true" executable that you can get with, say, C, C++, Delphi, etc.
That's correct, but it's still just as much as an executable as any. I mean, what are the defining terms of a "true" executable? Does using a framework void it being one?
(05-08-2016, 05:42 AM)meow Wrote: How the fuck is PHP not a real language..?
And?
If that's your definition of a real language than it's extremely flawed; you've even contradicted yourself by using Python as an example of a "real language" considering in 90% (or more) of Python implementations/environments, it's an interpreted language. Only in certain cases such as being complied to byte code for the PVM (even then, it's still not the same as executables that were compiled by gcc/++, etc) and being JIT compiled (for certain optimizations that you don't get with interpretations) will you ever see Python being compiled. However, those cases are a minority.
Also, technically, PHP can be compiled and executed.
I never said PHP wasn't a real language, I meant to imply that it's not a language meant for virus creation. The only context I've meant to have spoken in here is for virus creation, that's what this topic is about. And the reason I included Python is because through personal experience I've seen it be used for malicious purposes a lot. Your statistic may be correct, but from my views around me I've seen it compiled to executables and used for virus' very easily.
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RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-09-2016, 04:18 PM
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(05-09-2016, 03:56 PM)Killpot Wrote: That's correct, but it's still just as much as an executable as any. I mean, what are the defining terms of a "true" executable? Does using a framework void it being one?
A "true" executable would be an executable with a standard PE header and native CPU instructions within it. Framework executables don't have native CPU instructions within them, so yeah, they would no longer be true executables.
RE: Looking for malware coding tutorial 05-09-2016, 08:33 PM
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(05-09-2016, 04:18 PM)Axari Wrote: A "true" executable would be an executable with a standard PE header and native CPU instructions within it. Framework executables don't have native CPU instructions within them, so yeah, they would no longer be true executables.
That seems like an extremely subjective and bias definition, got any sauce 4 that?
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