[DragonicRek]

On top of what Oni is stating, It brings me back memories of YouTube HQ, Las Vegas shootout & etc. The shooter comes to a point of committing suicide because, not only he/she murdered a bunch of civilians but, the suffer they have to go through remembering who they are and, what actions led to the death-ling shooting.  Vis SC, it's quick and simple and, don't have to suffer a long painful death in prison.

I feel I can go on and on but...

I agree. What's intriguing is that there are people who want guns banned.
If guns are banned, guns will still be used to perform these malicious act. With technology expanding at a massive rate, guns wont be too hard to acquire.

[mothered]

If guns are banned, guns will still be used to perform these malicious act. With technology expanding at a massive rate, guns wont be too hard to acquire.

Precisely.

It works both ways- gun control and those responsible In acquiring a weapon with the Intent to cause harm. Both need to be addresses effectively.

[Vultra]

On top of what Oni is stating, It brings me back memories of YouTube HQ, Las Vegas shootout & etc. The shooter comes to a point of committing suicide because, not only he/she murdered a bunch of civilians but, the suffer they have to go through remembering who they are and, what actions led to the death-ling shooting.  Vis SC, it's quick and simple and, don't have to suffer a long painful death in prison.

I feel I can go on and on but...

I agree. What's intriguing is that there are people who want guns banned.
If guns are banned, guns will still be used to perform these malicious act. With technology expanding at a massive rate, guns wont be too hard to acquire.

You should watch this. This esculated slowly then, guns unleashed.

[M00N66]

I go shooting regularly and I don't understand gun control arguments. I have never hurt myself, I have never had the sudden urge to go on a blood lust rampage, I have never pointed a gun at anyone, etc. It is indeed linked to mental illness and most mass shootings involve an illegal firearm. I have heard rumors that LA gets their firearms from third-world jungles. Families make the guns at home and forge them themselves. They use women to export the gun via Ferry due to lack of security. Once it hits the West Coast (Sanctuary State), it is untraceable until several murders. The guns end up with weapon trafficking dealers. After a few murders, the gun is referred to as a "Hot Piece" and is sold for 1/3 price to lower tier criminals. The process never ends and is the reason why California is so notorious for shootings. The tracing process is similar to FUD viruses actually. Bullet impact signatures link the firearm towards certain events and people.

[singlehandlogic]

imo people dont need guns, they need to learn problem solving skills

gun control is absolutely a must imo, if we want to have a peaceful society. i cant believe you and i need to study and take a test, register, insure, and license a car but you dont need any of these for a weapon that can kill someone. the whole 3d gun printing thing is simply a way around any potential registry or check and balance system enforced. what people need, especially in america imo, is martial arts training. not a gun. and we need less violent video games, and gun culture.

its just common sense to me. Im a registered assault rifle owner and i love shooting for practice, its an art, it can be a sport... and that is what I think it should stay.

we got this stand your ground law and the recent incident in florida where one gy pushed another guy over and then he felt justified to murder him in front of his family... that shit is so fucking wrong its not even funny. if you are that scared... then you do not need a gun, you need to stay inside and get delivery.

I have training, im different in my opinion. thats because I know what weapons are used for. and basically in a nut shell, its insane that we think america is so fucking great because of guns. I remember reading in school, history class to be exact. how this nation was founded... and there is nothing to be proud of there imo. and you can tell where you are going by looking at where you came from.

IF the goal is to be safe, and protected. then id say the only way to achieve this is by grooming non violent culture. not the other way around. its stupidity to think more guns makes you safer. what makes you and everyone safer is by creating a society in which there is no need to commit a crime in the first place.

we are talking about a complex issue here, more than guns... and IIRC Jacque Fresco from the VENUS PROJECT hit it on the head perfectly in his research and findings. if you go watch some of his one or two hour documentaries and really take it in, you can see what I am talking about.

mean while, we have a society that thinks material objects out value the life of a living man or woman. which is the stupidest thing I think anyone could align with or agree with.

I have lost family and friends to gun violence. Ive been shot myself... so again my perspective may be a lil difference due to my experience in reality. most people watch jerry springer and fox news so much that what they say often turns into who they become. more guns is not the answer. I dont like having to look over my shoulder at EVERYONE and I do ... suspect ANYONE can and will be a threat. no one should have to live their life like that. in fact in our constitution it kinda promises we shouldnt have to. but that shit is old as fuck and we do need a change. id be willing to give up my AR if everyone else gave up their firearms.

On the flip side of things. I can understand why people want guns. we have a terribly corrupted government. our police murder people for no reason at times, or even by mistake. one sheriff was presenting an eviction notice and the father was upset and a conflict broke out, but the cop decided a gun was needed and instead of shooting the guy, he shot the guys daughter and she died. she was a child... this shit has to end. its fucking insanity.

[mothered]

I have never hurt myself, I have never had the sudden urge to go on a blood lust rampage, I have never pointed a gun at anyone, etc.

If only more people (or every person) like you were part of our population.

It is indeed linked to mental illness and most mass shootings involve an illegal firearm.

Agree.

If It's not solely one or the other, It's a combination of both. No one awakes of a morning with an Intention to kill, without something triggering the thought.

[singlehandlogic]

I have never hurt myself, I have never had the sudden urge to go on a blood lust rampage, I have never pointed a gun at anyone, etc.

If only more people (or every person) like you were part of our population.

It is indeed linked to mental illness and most mass shootings involve an illegal firearm.

Agree.

If It's not solely one or the other, It's a combination of both. No one awakes of a morning with an Intention to kill, without something triggering the thought.

yea but you know what (forgive me i forget which university it was) some university study said about americans? over 85% of them have mental health problems... lol and yet they keep wanting more guns. Id have to agree. I mean the founding of the nation was based on terrorizing hte native americans. hell if you couldnt tell just by the bison atrocities... shoot and kill for sport, leaving the meat to rot in the fields, didint tell ya, idk what will. I know a good group of militia members, we meet regularly and go practice at a homemade ranch. Not all gun owners are mentally sane or compromised. But the ones you need to watch out for, and I found this in real life experience as well, is those who self justify without some kind of moral check, usually these people reach for anything they can get, they will lie, steal and cheat, to get their way. now tell me why that doesnt sound like most of america today?

[Aeolian]

Here's my serious intake on gun control.

https://vimeo.com/219338338

[M00N66]

I have never hurt myself, I have never had the sudden urge to go on a blood lust rampage, I have never pointed a gun at anyone, etc.

If only more people (or every person) like you were part of our population.

It is indeed linked to mental illness and most mass shootings involve an illegal firearm.

Agree.

If It's not solely one or the other, It's a combination of both. No one awakes of a morning with an Intention to kill, without something triggering the thought.

yea but you know what (forgive me i forget which university it was) some university study said about americans? over 85% of them have mental health problems... lol   and yet they keep wanting more guns. Id have to agree. I mean the founding of the nation was based on terrorizing hte native americans. hell if you couldnt tell just by the bison atrocities... shoot and kill for sport, leaving the meat to rot in the fields, didint tell ya, idk what will. I know a good group of militia members, we meet regularly and go practice at a homemade ranch. Not all gun owners are mentally sane or compromised. But the ones you need to watch out for, and I found this in real life experience as well, is those who self justify without some kind of moral check, usually these people reach for anything they can get, they will lie, steal and cheat, to get their way. now tell me why that doesnt sound like most of america today?

Lmao you sound like the people I win debates with live.

[singlehandlogic]

If only more people (or every person) like you were part of our population.


Agree.

If It's not solely one or the other, It's a combination of both. No one awakes of a morning with an Intention to kill, without something triggering the thought.

yea but you know what (forgive me i forget which university it was) some university study said about americans? over 85% of them have mental health problems... lol   and yet they keep wanting more guns. Id have to agree. I mean the founding of the nation was based on terrorizing hte native americans. hell if you couldnt tell just by the bison atrocities... shoot and kill for sport, leaving the meat to rot in the fields, didint tell ya, idk what will. I know a good group of militia members, we meet regularly and go practice at a homemade ranch. Not all gun owners are mentally sane or compromised. But the ones you need to watch out for, and I found this in real life experience as well, is those who self justify without some kind of moral check, usually these people reach for anything they can get, they will lie, steal and cheat, to get their way. now tell me why that doesnt sound like most of america today?

Lmao you sound like the people I win debates with live.

you don't win debates... its simply a matter of understanding another persons perspective and accepting that based on others experiences, ones in which YOU LACK... that give people various understandings around said topic. you don't win a debate with me, there is nothing im debating with you in the FIRST place. you have your rights to your own perspective. I respect that. perhaps you should try that! maybe youd have more friends and a job if you weren't so primitive in your thinking. its just a thought! cheers!