[Jiggly]

It's interesting how you were talking about people obeying/following. There are many theories as to why people do this. One says that Socially people want to be accepted - not a crime but when people suppress their responses etc to fit in, it's looked down upon. However, I think it's human nature.... It's up to you to decide how you want to behave.

This collaboration of research and analysis may be interesting for some people. http://aspsychologyblackpoolsixth.weebly...ience.html

It focuses on obedience to authority figures, but if you haven't heard of studies like Milgram's study... Then you may be shocked with the findings. xD

[DarkMuse]

It's interesting how you were talking about people obeying/following. There are many theories as to why people do this. One says that Socially people want to be accepted - not a crime but when people suppress their responses etc to fit in, it's looked down upon. However, I think it's human nature.... It's up to you to decide how you want to behave.

This collaboration of research and analysis may be interesting for some people. http://aspsychologyblackpoolsixth.weebly...ience.html

It focuses on obedience to authority figures, but if you haven't heard of studies like Milgram's study... Then you may be shocked with the findings. xD

You know, I feel like if this were the case I would be a bit more forgiving. When I was watching the movie on Netflix, one critic of the Occupy Wallstreet movement asked a protestor why the government should be paying off his student loans and it was interesting to watch this college student trip and stutter over a completely illogical response that concluded to: "it's my opinion."

What I saw in this specific movement was an addiction, a social high. I believe that people LOVE to get high off of social situations and acceptance. We are taught that when we don't fit in we end up slitting our wrists, drinking bleach, hanging ourselves, or buying a shotgun and blowing our brains out. As you can imagine, this adds to the addictiong by throwing in pressure and anxiety.

So what do people do? They stop caring, they don't even repress their own beliefs they just don't even try. They stop listening to their teachers when they try to teach politics because its easier to listen to mommy or daddy or to say fuck it and go with the "Anonymous" anarchy flow. It makes me sick because there is nothing I can do about it on my own.

[Equinox]

I'll just say my thoughts on this subject, and I will probably have a lot of people backlashing at me because of my thoughts.

Well, here we go.

I honestly don't know why you would make this thread. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I disagree with it, but this is really just a thread about common sense.

There will always be people who don't stand up for what is "right", but what you think is right may not be the same thing as my views of what is right. When people come together, it's because we have mutual agreements, and we will fight for what we believe. An example of this would be religion.

I'm Christian, and that's my view of life and a god, but that doesn't mean that I cam shove it down someone else's throat, because they may not believe in the same religion as me. So I can think that something is "right" but it would be considered "wrong" to someone else.

I used religion as an example. What are other ones? Hacking is one, I could think that hacking is the best thing in the world, and that it should be done because it's what I think is right. However, someone else, like the government, may not think that it is good.

Another example is government, and politics, I may say that Obama is the best president in the US so far, however someone else may think another president is. That would be because I have a different view than someone else, and I can't shove it down their throat.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's these are things that you should never ever discuss or argue about, you just shouldn't make someone think the same way. And this entire wall of text could also be debatable. You may think it's okay to shove this down people's throats, but I don't.

And that's my thoughts. Just giving reasons for you people to hate me more, practically.

[DarkMuse]

I'll just say my thoughts on this subject, and I will probably have a lot of people backlashing at me because of my thoughts.

Well, here we go.

I honestly don't know why you would make this thread. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I disagree with it, but this is really just a thread about common sense.

There will always be people who don't stand up for what is "right", but what you think is right may not be the same thing as my views of what is right. When people come together, it's because we have mutual agreements, and we will fight for what we believe. An example of this would be religion.

I'm Christian, and that's my view of life and a god, but that doesn't mean that I cam shove it down someone else's throat, because they may not believe in the same religion as me. So I can think that something is "right" but it would be considered "wrong" to someone else.

I used religion as an example. What are other ones? Hacking is one, I could think that hacking is the best thing in the world, and that it should be done because it's what I think is right. However, someone else, like the government, may not think that it is good.

Another example is government, and politics, I may say that Obama is the best president in the US so far, however someone else may think another president is. That would be because I have a different view than someone else, and I can't shove it down their throat.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's these are things that you should never ever discuss or argue about, you just shouldn't make someone think the same way. And this entire wall of text could also be debatable. You may think it's okay to shove this down people's throats, but I don't.

And that's my thoughts. Just giving reasons for you people to hate me more, practically.

A. People don't actually hate you here.
B. I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throat, just trying to see how other people feel about the Subject.

[Equinox]

A. People don't actually hate you here.
B. I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throat, just trying to see how other people feel about the Subject.

Ah, okay, sorry for this misunderstanding.

[DarkMuse]

Ah, okay, sorry for this misunderstanding.

No problem man, just glad I could help clear things up.

[w00t]

The language you used the OP hardly alludes to attempting to open up a discussion on your beliefs. You assert that your way is the only correct way, and that if you don't hold the same beliefs you are a "sheep", a term you use pejoratively, which, in itself, is a form of abuse designed to make people comply, using the same social pressures you claim to rally against.

It is okay to be socially influenced, everyone is. The important line to draw is that you don't let others think for you, only set that which you value and see as moral.

For example, as an American( yes, I'm assuming you're American ), you have less problem with rampant violence on TV and in other visual media, but take issue to any form of sexual conduct on those same forms of media.
Someone raised in Europe, however, is more likely to view the amount of violence as repulsive, while sexuality is merely a normal part of life. That doesn't make either person a sheep, as they may be able to logically think through why either side of the argument is correct, but it does show that social influence is a real thing that happens to all of us.

[Jiggly]

All of these things being discussed are relevant topics in Sociology/Psychology.

[Triad]

I think people mad anonymous less serious than it was. People ruined it.

[DarkMuse]

The language you used the OP hardly alludes to attempting to open up a discussion on your beliefs. You assert that your way is the only correct way, and that if you don't hold the same beliefs you are a "sheep", a term you use pejoratively, which, in itself, is a form of abuse designed to make people comply, using the same social pressures you claim to rally against.

It is okay to be socially influenced, everyone is. The important line to draw is that you don't let others think for you, only set that which you value and see as moral.

For example, as an American( yes, I'm assuming you're American ), you have less problem with rampant violence on TV and in other visual media, but take issue to any form of sexual conduct on those same forms of media.
Someone raised in Europe, however, is more likely to view the amount of violence as repulsive, while sexuality is merely a normal part of life. That doesn't make either person a sheep, as they may be able to logically think through why either side of the argument is correct, but it does show that social influence is a real thing that happens to all of us.

It appears that my verbage in my original post was rather, demanding and controlling. However that is not at all how I meant it. I truely do care about how everyone else feels about activist/hactivist groups. I want to know what you all think about society norms and how we should attempt to fix it.

Please do not miss take what I just said for me backing away from my opinion; I still stand by what I said and how I feel about activist groups and protests.

Also, we have a very, very large issue with violence in the media including video games, tv, and movies and it usually is a goto for blaming when violence occurs (shootings, Boston Bombing, etc.) I do however agree with your statement about how we should not let social situations control us, but rather let them teach us.

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I think people mad anonymous less serious than it was. People ruined it.

Well I disagree. The people were terrified of Anonymous, Anon was a powerful and not-to-be-fucked-with figure. What made Anonymous a joke, in my opinion, was LulzSec. They did some really stupid things "for teh lulz" and people associated them with Anonymous thus fucking Anonymous over. At that point I think Anonymous kinda loss sight and began to blurr lines.