[meow]

Homosexuals deserve the privilege of having the same legal rights and societal treatement as heterosexuals, state your position on the prompt and explain why you take that stance. Your posts may be subject to refutation or criticism.

I disagree, here's why.

Spoiler:

If homosexuality is comparable to infertility, then it is a disability.
If homosexuality is comparable to straight people engaging in oral sex, then it is a fetish.
If homosexuality is comparable to friendships with the same gender, why do they have sex?
If homosexuality is safe, why do homosexuals spread the most STDs and literally tear apart each others’ sphincters?
If homosexuality is a valid means of romantic bonding, why does nature disallow them reproduction?
If homosexual “love” is as pure as natural love, why are gays so much more promiscuous?
If there is nothing inherently wrong with being a homosexual, why would an entirely homosexual society cease to exist beyond a single generation?

The fact of the matter is that homosexuality is a byproduct of genetic errors in nature. Errors occur in nature all the time, and homosexuality is a perfect example of error. Somewhere in the brain of every homosexual a critical error has occurred. In what other situation is an error encouraged or rewarded as it is in homosexuality in today’s media? You may ask yourself how this error affects you. The answer is simple. Homosexuality, despite what you are told to believe, can be indoctrinated. Why do you think the rate of children who “turn out” gay skyrockets in the presence of gay “parents”? The push for indoctrination within recent years has been quite evident through the use of protests, pride marches, and even homosexual characters being placed within children's movies and cartoons. The ironic side of it is that heterosexual pride marches are shunned and spoken out against by the homosexual community, yet heterosexuals shouldn't be allowed to do the same to homosexuals. If that isn't an obvious sign of indoctrination then I don't know what is.

Facts About the Dangers of Homosexuality

Abused "More Likely to Be Gay"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3949087/...-to-be-gay

Alcohol and Drug Use Among Homosexual Men and Women

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2589133

Anal Cancer Rise in Gay Men Prompts Calls for Vaccinations

http://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/anal-c...ccinations

College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Young Girls

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top...girls.html

CDC: 94 to 95 Percent of HIV Cases Among Young Men Linked to Gay Sex

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdc-94-...-to-gay-se

CDC Warns Gay Men of 'Epidemic' HIV Rates

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/epidemi...continue-w

Drug Use "Seven Times Higher" Among Gays

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...65971.html

Estimates of New HIV Infections in the United States, 2007-2010

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/2012...phics.html

Higher Risk of Mental Health Problems for Homosexuals

http://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-...ls/0006527

HIV Among Homosexual and Bisexual Men

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/

HIV in the United States

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv...tatistics/

HIV Increase Among Black Gays Called 'Alarming'

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/heal...56431798/1

HIV Infected Man 'Hooking Up' on Websites Faces Charges for Intentionally Spreading Disease

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Calif...-Boyfriend

Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - The Myth is Collapsing

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103899573/Homo...Collapsing

Homosexual Men Have Fifty Times Higher Rate of AIDS

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillan...#incidence

Homosexual Men Twice as Likely to Have Cancer

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/homosex...ncer-study

Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away

http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/20...Qi3X12lxQI

How Different are the Adult Children of Parents who Have Same-Sex Relationships?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...9X12000610

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible'

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-...sex-change

New Research on Same-Sex Households Reveals Kids Do Best With Mom and Dad

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/02/14417/

One in Five Homosexual, Bisexual Men in U.S. Cities Has HIV

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/2...H220100923

Pedophiles Want Same Rights as Homosexuals

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

Plato, Laws, Section 636c

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text...g=original

Populations at Higher Risk for HIV: Route of Transmission

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVF...ission.htm

The Removal of Homosexuality from the Psychiatric Manual

http://cssronline.org/CSSR/Archival/2001..._71-78.pdf

Report Finds Black Homosexual Males in U.S. Worst Hit By HIV-AIDS

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/report-finds-bl...52246.html

Statistics on Sexual Promiscuity Among Homosexuals

http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

STD Facts - Syphilis & MSM

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-...philis.htm

Syphilis Makes a Worrying Comeback in U.S.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/sexual-hea...-s-n100606

Viral Hepatitis Populations - Men Who Have Sex with Men

http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Populations/msm.htm

WHO Warns HIV 'Exploding' Among Gay Men, Urges Preventive Drugs

http://www.afp.com/en/news/who-warns-hiv...tive-drugs

Facts About the Dangers of Homosexuality (From Sources You'll Probably Dismiss Out of Hand)

Child Molestation and Homosexuality

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/0...xuality-2/

Deadly Meningitis Outbreak Hits NYC Gay Community

http://www.inquisitr.com/585603/deadly-m...community/

Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuals

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopi...istcs.html

Frightening Gay Statistics

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20i...istics.htm

Gay Youths 148% More Likely to Be Physically Abused in Relationships: DOJ-Funded Report

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-you...ps-doj-fun

Health Risks - Fisting and Other Homosexual Practices

http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html

HIV+ Homosexual Men 9000% More Likely to Develop Anal Cancer

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive...r/07032205

HIV/AIDS is Predominately a Homosexual Disease

http://savecalifornia.com/hiv-aids-is-pr...sease.html

Homosexuality and Mental Health Problems

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Men Having Sex with Men at Far Greater Risk for Cancer, STD's, Infections

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/men-hav...tions-syst

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

New Study On Homosexual Parents Tops All Previous Research

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-...s-research

Statistics on Sexual Promiscuity Among Homosexuals

http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

Study Confirms Gay Life Expectancy Twenty Years Shorter

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive...n/05060606

Syphilis Rates Soar 134% Among Homosexual Black Men

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/syphili...ral-popul/

Study Shows Homosexual Parenting Not Equal to Heterosexual Marriage

http://www.c-fam.org/fridayfax/volume-15...riage.html

What Research Shows - NARTH's Response to the APA Claims on Homosexuality

http://www.narth.com/docs/journalsummary.html

Homosexual Indoctrination

A Boys' Camp to Redefine Gender

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/0...hotos.html

ABC Hires Gay Activist to Write Eight Hour Miniseries About the History of the Gay Rights Movement

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abc-hir...ory-of-the

Behind the Rhetoric: The Social Goals of GLBT  Advocacy in Corporate America

http://carlospr.com/uploads/Behind_The_Rhetoric.pdf

Can We Please Just Start Admitting That We Do Actually Want to Indoctrinate Kids

http://www.queerty.com/can-we-please-jus...-20110512/

CBS Execs Meet with Transgender Activists to Promote Positive TV Portrayals

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cbs-exe...portrayals

CW Developing Drama About Transgender Teenager from Producer Michael London

http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/cw-devel...el-london/

FCKH8 is Mailing 10,000 Pro-Gay Coloring Books to Kids in Russia During the Olympics

http://fckh8.3dcartstores.com/Coloring-B..._41-1.html

Grammys to Feature On-Air Weddings of 34 Couples

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/artsbeat...m=artsbeat

Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage

http://illinoisfamily.org/homosexuality/...-marriage/

The Homosexual Propaganda Campaign in America's Media

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issue..._ball.html

Inclusive Sex Education is Vital – and British Schools Aren't Delivering It

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...r-tatchell

Media Exposure and Viewers' Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.10...0902908049

The Media is Not Biased Toward Homosexual Marriage. It is Promoting it.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatho...moting-it/

The Overhauling of Straight America

http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/E...raight.htm

Queering Agriculture?

http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon0205hm.html

The Rampant Promotion of Homosexuality in Movies and Television

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/promoting...ov11.shtml

The Real Homosexual Agenda is on Your TV and Movie Screens

http://www.gcmwatch.com/7409/the-real-ga...ie-screens

Study: Watching Porn Boosts Support for Homosexual Marriage

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...-marriage/

Heterosexual Oppression By Homosexuals and Their Supporters

AIDS Expert Fired for Testifying Gay Sex is Harmful to Public Health

http://www.charismanews.com/us/43941-aid...lic-health

Air Force Sergeant Claims He was Fired for Refusing to Endorse Gay Marriage: Faces Court Martial

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/air-for...y-marriage

Ashers Baking Company: 'Gay Cake' Row Could End Up in Court

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28206581

Chaplains Group Investigating Claims Army Threatened Chaplain Over Facebook Post on Homosexuality

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/chaplai...r-facebook

Denmark Forces Churches to Perform Same-Sex 'Marriages'

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/denmark...-marriages

'Duck Dynasty' Star Suspended for Anti-Gay Remarks

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/showbiz/du...uspension/

Fox Sports Football Announcer Fired Over 2011 Remarks on Homosexuality

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fox-spo...osexuality

Gay Activists Launch Complaint Against Teacher Who Included Homosexuality on List of Possible Sins

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-act...exuality-o

Gay Danish Couples Win Right to Marry in Church

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...hurch.html

Gay Couple Suing Church for Refusing Wedding

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-st...fusing-wed

Girls Threatened With Hate Crime Charges for Complaining About Transgender Bathroom Harassment

http://www.infowars.com/girls-threatened...arassment/

Grandmother Who Refused to Make Gay Wedding Floral Arrangements Could Lose House, Life Savings After Guilty Verdict

http://www.christianpost.com/news/grandm...ct-134480/

Idaho City's Ordinance Tells Pastors to Marry Gays or Go to Jail

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...rry-gays-/

Judge Orders Baker to Serve Gay Couples Despite His Religious Beliefs

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/06/jud...s-beliefs/

Millionaire Gay Couple is Suing to Force a Church to Hold Their Wedding

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/millio...z345ykyhui

New Mexico Supreme Court: Christian Photographers Must Shoot Homosexual Commitment Ceremony

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nm-supr...-the-price

NY Farm Owners Fined $13,000 for Refusing to Host Same-Sex Wedding

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...x-wedding/

Oregon Business Must Pay $150,000 to Homosexual Couple for Refusing to Bake a Cake

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/02/oregon-bu...ke-a-cake/

Portland Bar Owner Must Pay $400K for Kicking Transgender Patrons Out of Bar

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/portlan...s-out-of-b

Scottish Man Fined $62K for ‘Homophobic’ Twitter Message

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/scottis...er-message

Sharia Law or Gay Marriage Critics Would Be Branded 'Extremists' Under Tory Plans, Atheists and Christians Warn

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics...-warn.html

Student Suspended for Saying Homosexuality is Wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZENOCaGRKjs

Students Suspended for Wearing Confederate Flags to Protest Gay Rainbow Flag

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/14/studen...z2hnRw0hXk

Thousands Petition Against "19 Kids and Counting" for LGBTQ "Fear Mongering"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-pe...mongering/

Transgender Anchor Sues BET for $2.5 Million Because He Couldn't Host Segment in Drag

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/transge...st-segment

Transgender Man Wins Complaint Against Bridal Shop for Not Letting Him Try on Wedding Dress

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/transge...ng-him-try

Washington Florist Sued for Refusing to Provide Flowers for Same-Sex Wedding

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/washingto...d=18922065

Homosexuality is a Choice

Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is No Genetic

http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

Just Over 2% Tell CDC They Are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio.../12671717/

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay

http://americanvision.org/8136/new-twin-...-born-gay/

No One is Born Gay

http://www.nooneisborngay.com/

Proof You Can't be 'Born Gay'

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/why-you-cant-be-born-gay/

Homosexuality is Degenerate

Degenerate

de·gen·er·ate

[v. dih-jen-uh-reyt; adj., n. dih-jen-er-it]

verb, de·gen·er·at·ed, de·gen·er·at·ing, adjective, noun

verb (used without object)

1. To fall below a normal or desirable level in physical, mental, or moral qualities; deteriorate: The morale of the soldiers degenerated, and they were unable to fight.

2. To diminish in quality, especially from a former state of coherence, balance, integrity, etc.: The debate degenerated into an exchange of insults.

3. Pathology . to lose functional activity, as a tissue or organ.

4. Evolution. (of a species or any of its traits or structures) to revert to a simple, less highly organized, or less functionally active type, as a parasitic plant that has lost its taproot or the vestigial wings of a flightless bird.

verb (used with object)

5. to cause degeneration in; bring about a decline, deterioration, or reversion in.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Degenerate?s=t


ABC's 'Bachelor' Juan Pablo Galavis Says Gays Shouldn't Be on the Show

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-fe...vis-672100

>"They're more pervert in a sense. To me, the show would be too strong, too hard to watch on TV," said the reality star.

Bug Chasing: Why Some Men Want to Become HIV Positive

http://voices.yahoo.com/bug-chasing-why-...html?cat=5

Dallas: Police and Pride Organizers Say No 'Lewdness' or Nudity

http://dailyxtra.com/world/news/around-t...market=206

Folsom Street Fair 2007

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

Folsom Street Fair 2010-2013

http://www.photos-biron.com/folsom11/index0.html

Gay Student to Lose His Virginity in Live Sex Performance for Art

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25...Gay+Voices

Inside the Meth-Fueled, Week-Long Orgies Plaguing London's Gay Scene

http://www.queerty.com/meth-fueled-gay-o...-20130606/

Jizz on the Rocks: Introducing Semen-Infused Cocktails

http://www.queerty.com/jizz-on-the-rocks...-20131022/

A Porn Director Stirred Up Controversy by Making a Movie Centered Around HIV

http://www.vice.com/read/director-paul-m...f-gay-porn

Two Men, 58 Years and Counting. A Love Story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/nyregi...=all&_r=1&

>“Unbelievable,” he said. “And the toilets in the subways — in those days if you traveled, say, 14th Street to 59th Street, you had to make at least three stops on the way, to check out every toilet. “And there was always gay activity going on in the toilets. And I think it cost a nickel to get in in those days.”

Up Your Alley 2008

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/

Vancouver Police, Officials Would Not Uphold Laws Against Public Nudity at Pride Parade

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vancouv...udity-at-p

The Real Slippery Slope

Bestiality Brothels are 'Spreading Through Germany' Warns Campaigner as Abusers Turn to Sex with Animals as 'Lifestyle Choice'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...hoice.html

Germany Urges Paedophiles Out of the Shadows

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33464970

I'm a Pedophile, But Not a Monster

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_ped...a_monster/

I'm a Pedophile, You're the Monsters

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_ped...e_machine/

Is Incest Wrong?

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/is-incest-wrong

Is Pedophilia a Sexual Orientation?

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013...ation.html

Is Polygamy Next?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinio...-next.html

It's Time to Legalize Polygamy

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...19469.html

Lawmaker: Pedophilia, Bestiality Equal to Homosexuality

http://www.diversityinc.com/news/lawmake...sexuality/

Pedophiles Want Same Rights as Homosexuals

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

Pedophilia a 'Sexual Orientation' Experts Tell Parliament

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pedoph...parliament

Pedophilia the Next 'Sexual-Rights' Revolution?

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/pedophilia-th...evolution/

Polygamous Montana Trio Applies for Wedding License

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/76567...cense.html

Stanford Law Prof: No Marriage Equality Until Polygamy and Adult Incest Legalized

http://blog.speakupmovement.org/universi...legalized/  

Those Who Practice Bestiality Say They're Part of the Next Sexual Rights Movement

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/tho...nt-6334747

University Academics Say Pedophilia is 'Natural, and Normal for Males to Be Aroused By Children'

http://truthuncensored.net/university-ac...-children/

I believe that, instead of enabling their actions by normalizing and glorifying homosexuality, homosexuals should be seeking therapeutic help. Giving beer to an alcoholic does not solve their drinking problem. Providing food for an overeater does not solve their eating problem. Taking a gambler to a casino does not solve their gambling problem.

[Jiggly]

From previous experiences of engaging in debate topics with you, I think myself and several members of the forum probably don't even want to go there. I don't mean that offensively, but I genuinely get a headache when I debate anything with you.

I do have two questions that I want to ask, to find out what your stance is on them.

1) I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural. Biologically our bodies are meant to reproduce between members of the opposite sex. However, why is it important to prevent homosexuality? This planet certainly does not need an increase in population (quite the opposite). I do know there are studies that support the idea that more STIs are transferred between gay couples, but I believe that is more an issue of not being either educated about safe sex or not taking care to use preventative measures. Teenage pregnancies are now more common than ever, and are rarely a good thing, yet we don't stop teenagers having relationships. I'd love to hear an explanation of your beliefs on that matter. Don't worry about citing articles from the internet somewhere unless there's a statistic you're quoting. I'm not especially interested in going through a million articles on the matter. xD

2) Do you think homosexuality is actually harmful to society as a whole? Globally, locally, nationally and so on. Are there not other larger concerns that would be something you'd action before something like this? Personally, I have never been negatively affected by homosexuals, while I have been negatively affected by straight couples. I've found that to be more of a personality issue than actually relating to their sexuality. That's an example of a correlation without causation.

[meow]

I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural.

Never said that. I actually said the exact opposite, you can read it in the OP.

However, why is it important to prevent homosexuality?

Read the OP.

This planet certainly does not need an increase in population (quite the opposite)

Are you implying that homosexuality is the solution to that? Birth rates have been declining for a while now, overpopulation is no longer a significant problem. The problem with a purely homosexual society is mentioned in the OP.

I do know there are studies that support the idea that more STIs are transferred between gay couples, but I believe that is more an issue of not being either educated about safe sex or not taking care to use preventative measures.

All STD contraction is due to failure to protect yourself sexually, nobody is denying that. However, when it's a statistically proven fact that homosexuals contract disproportionately more STDs than heterosexual people when engaging in sexual intercourse, obviously the homosexual attribute of the intercourse is playing a significant role with regards to the contraction of these diseases and infections.

Teenage pregnancies are now more common than ever, and are rarely a good thing, yet we don't stop teenagers having relationships. I'd love to hear an explanation of your beliefs on that matter.

Very few people encourage teenagers to have sex, in fact, it's illegal and punishable in most cases, therefore it is discouraged. Teenage pregnancies are the primary reason why abortions exist. If you're comparing this to relationships between homosexuals then I don't know why, because they're not even close to the same thing. You can read the OP if you want to know why.

Don't worry about citing articles from the internet somewhere unless there's a statistic you're quoting. I'm not especially interested in going through a million articles on the matter. xD

The overwhelming majority of those articles have references at the bottom of the page which include their citations. Others are written by accredited psychologists with college educations, which is the best citation you'll get for information regarding the matter of whether homosexuality is a mental illness or not. Choosing not to read them and then claiming I'm wrong is your decision, won't change the fact that they're statistics and statistics with large sample sizes generally don't have bias.

Do you think homosexuality is actually harmful to society as a whole? Globally, locally, nationally and so on. Are there not other larger concerns that would be something you'd action before something like this?

Read the OP. Also, just because there are larger concerns doesn't mean this isn't a concern or that this concern shouldn't be dealt with properly. That's called the logical fallacy of relative privation.

Personally, I have never been negatively affected by homosexuals, while I have been negatively affected by straight couples. I've found that to be more of a personality issue than actually relating to their sexuality. That's an example of a correlation without causation.

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't amount to credible information. I explained in the OP how people are affected by homosexuality and why it's bad thing. You should read it.

It's encouraged that you read the original post before asking me questions so that I can refrain from repeating what I've already stated.

[Jiggly]

I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural.

Never said that. I actually said the exact opposite, you can read it in the OP.

However, why is it important to prevent homosexuality?

Read the OP.

This planet certainly does not need an increase in population (quite the opposite)

Are you implying that homosexuality is the solution to that? Birth rates have been declining for a while now, overpopulation is no longer a significant problem. The problem with a purely homosexual society is mentioned in the OP.

I do know there are studies that support the idea that more STIs are transferred between gay couples, but I believe that is more an issue of not being either educated about safe sex or not taking care to use preventative measures.

All STD contraction is due to failure to protect yourself sexually, nobody is denying that. However, when it's a statistically proven fact that homosexuals contract disproportionately more STDs than heterosexual people when engaging in sexual intercourse, obviously the homosexual attribute of the intercourse is playing a significant role with regards to the contraction of these diseases and infections.

Teenage pregnancies are now more common than ever, and are rarely a good thing, yet we don't stop teenagers having relationships. I'd love to hear an explanation of your beliefs on that matter.

Very few people encourage teenagers to have sex, in fact, it's illegal and punishable in most cases, therefore it is discouraged. Teenage pregnancies are the primary reason why abortions exist. If you're comparing this to relationships between homosexuals then I don't know why, because they're not even close to the same thing. You can read the OP if you want to know why.

Don't worry about citing articles from the internet somewhere unless there's a statistic you're quoting. I'm not especially interested in going through a million articles on the matter. xD

The overwhelming majority of those articles have references at the bottom of the page which include their citations. Others are written by accredited psychologists with college educations, which is the best citation you'll get for information regarding the matter of whether homosexuality is a mental illness or not. Choosing not to read them and then claiming I'm wrong is your decision, won't change the fact that they're statistics and statistics with large sample sizes generally don't have bias.

Do you think homosexuality is actually harmful to society as a whole? Globally, locally, nationally and so on. Are there not other larger concerns that would be something you'd action before something like this?

Read the OP. Also, just because there are larger concerns doesn't mean this isn't a concern or that this concern shouldn't be dealt with properly. That's called the logical fallacy of relative privation.

Personally, I have never been negatively affected by homosexuals, while I have been negatively affected by straight couples. I've found that to be more of a personality issue than actually relating to their sexuality. That's an example of a correlation without causation.

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't amount to credible information. I explained in the OP how people are affected by homosexuality and why it's bad thing. You should read it.

It's encouraged that you read the original post before asking me questions so that I can refrain from repeating what I've already stated.

Ok, your reaction to my post goes to prove why people don't like doing this. I did not say you said it was unnatural, I referred to a common perception socially. I did read the OP and did not feel like I fully understood why you felt that way. I did not read through the articles because there are far too many. I wanted an opinion not a research list xD
Dw, no, I'm not implying homosexuality is a solution to overpopulation. The number of STD contractions in homosexual couples will of course be higher. They do not need to worry about pregnancy and are less likely to think about protection - but that was my point xD
The teenage pregnancies was just me being sarcastic - it is not the same thing. However, teenagers having sex is legal in many places in the world, at a particular age.
To clarify: I am not disputing your sources. I am not saying you are wrong, or than any of your sources are wrong. Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. I'd recommend against saying "read the OP" since I did, and if I am asking you questions, you either misread/misunderstood my questions or were not clear in your original post. There was limited information that you actually stated yourself. What you did do is link the articles. As I have already stated, I was interested in what you said personally, and not another expert or study or article.

I suppose I should be more clear. The purpose of my response was more to gauge how you came to hold your views. Is it something you've just learned about over time after reading about it? Did you have this view from a young age? Is it based on personal experiences you've had? I'm not interested in deciding whether you are "right" or "wrong". I am curious as to how you came to your viewpoint in the first place.

Btw, my anecdote wasn't very relevant I know. It was more a thought that amused me than an argument.

[Inori]

I'm not interested in debating this, and while I admire the effort you put into this thread, I have to ask: why do you - personally, not from a societal or global view - care?

From what I gather, you're far removed from any and all homosexual behavior, so how are you affected by it? Is it so wrong to live and let live purely because you have conflicting views?

[meow]

I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural.

Never said that. I actually said the exact opposite, you can read it in the OP.

However, why is it important to prevent homosexuality?

Read the OP.

This planet certainly does not need an increase in population (quite the opposite)

Are you implying that homosexuality is the solution to that? Birth rates have been declining for a while now, overpopulation is no longer a significant problem. The problem with a purely homosexual society is mentioned in the OP.

I do know there are studies that support the idea that more STIs are transferred between gay couples, but I believe that is more an issue of not being either educated about safe sex or not taking care to use preventative measures.

All STD contraction is due to failure to protect yourself sexually, nobody is denying that. However, when it's a statistically proven fact that homosexuals contract disproportionately more STDs than heterosexual people when engaging in sexual intercourse, obviously the homosexual attribute of the intercourse is playing a significant role with regards to the contraction of these diseases and infections.

Teenage pregnancies are now more common than ever, and are rarely a good thing, yet we don't stop teenagers having relationships. I'd love to hear an explanation of your beliefs on that matter.

Very few people encourage teenagers to have sex, in fact, it's illegal and punishable in most cases, therefore it is discouraged. Teenage pregnancies are the primary reason why abortions exist. If you're comparing this to relationships between homosexuals then I don't know why, because they're not even close to the same thing. You can read the OP if you want to know why.

Don't worry about citing articles from the internet somewhere unless there's a statistic you're quoting. I'm not especially interested in going through a million articles on the matter. xD

The overwhelming majority of those articles have references at the bottom of the page which include their citations. Others are written by accredited psychologists with college educations, which is the best citation you'll get for information regarding the matter of whether homosexuality is a mental illness or not. Choosing not to read them and then claiming I'm wrong is your decision, won't change the fact that they're statistics and statistics with large sample sizes generally don't have bias.

Do you think homosexuality is actually harmful to society as a whole? Globally, locally, nationally and so on. Are there not other larger concerns that would be something you'd action before something like this?

Read the OP. Also, just because there are larger concerns doesn't mean this isn't a concern or that this concern shouldn't be dealt with properly. That's called the logical fallacy of relative privation.

Personally, I have never been negatively affected by homosexuals, while I have been negatively affected by straight couples. I've found that to be more of a personality issue than actually relating to their sexuality. That's an example of a correlation without causation.

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't amount to credible information. I explained in the OP how people are affected by homosexuality and why it's bad thing. You should read it.

It's encouraged that you read the original post before asking me questions so that I can refrain from repeating what I've already stated.

Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. I'd recommend against saying "read the OP" since I did, and if I am asking you questions, you either misread/misunderstood my questions or were not clear in your original post.

When you make a statement in direct response to me and what I've said such as "I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural," there is actually a very heavy implication that you think I stated that, which is why I responded the way I did. Also, I told you to read the OP numerous times because nearly every question you asked or every request you made was answered or fulfilled in the OP. If I have offended you in any way with my responses then I should let you know that I don't intentionally go out of my way to offend people anymore, and if you feel like I'm trying to offend you with anything I say then it's probably unintentional on my end and just you perceiving my words as offensive.

I suppose I should be more clear. The purpose of my response was more to gauge how you came to hold your views. Is it something you've just learned about over time after reading about it? Did you have this view from a young age? Is it based on personal experiences you've had? I'm not interested in deciding whether you are "right" or "wrong". I am curious as to how you came to your viewpoint in the first place.

Here's why I believe almost everything that I do: I tend to avoid and stray away from emotional sides of arguments as much as possible, there's nothing I've said here or almost anywhere else that isn't backed by some sort of logical appeal. I have never read anything which supports, encourages, or normalizes homosexuality that hasn't used an emotional appeal such as "they're human too" or "everyone deserves equal rights," etc., nor have I read or seen anything which contradicts studies or statistics that are included in the articles which I listed above with the exception of the dispute among psychologists regarding whether homosexuality should be considered a mental illness or not.

TL;DR - you will never find me siding with a viewpoint that challenges the most logical side of the argument

[mothered]

I don't read articles and opinions of others pertaining to homosexuality- that's Immaterial to my very own views.

Irrespective of their nature, homosexuals are people just like you and I. They've simply taken another direction towards their sexuality. Bottom line, I believe they should be treated equally.

[Jiggly]

Never said that. I actually said the exact opposite, you can read it in the OP.


Read the OP.


Are you implying that homosexuality is the solution to that? Birth rates have been declining for a while now, overpopulation is no longer a significant problem. The problem with a purely homosexual society is mentioned in the OP.


All STD contraction is due to failure to protect yourself sexually, nobody is denying that. However, when it's a statistically proven fact that homosexuals contract disproportionately more STDs than heterosexual people when engaging in sexual intercourse, obviously the homosexual attribute of the intercourse is playing a significant role with regards to the contraction of these diseases and infections.


Very few people encourage teenagers to have sex, in fact, it's illegal and punishable in most cases, therefore it is discouraged. Teenage pregnancies are the primary reason why abortions exist. If you're comparing this to relationships between homosexuals then I don't know why, because they're not even close to the same thing. You can read the OP if you want to know why.


The overwhelming majority of those articles have references at the bottom of the page which include their citations. Others are written by accredited psychologists with college educations, which is the best citation you'll get for information regarding the matter of whether homosexuality is a mental illness or not. Choosing not to read them and then claiming I'm wrong is your decision, won't change the fact that they're statistics and statistics with large sample sizes generally don't have bias.


Read the OP. Also, just because there are larger concerns doesn't mean this isn't a concern or that this concern shouldn't be dealt with properly. That's called the logical fallacy of relative privation.


Your anecdotal evidence doesn't amount to credible information. I explained in the OP how people are affected by homosexuality and why it's bad thing. You should read it.

It's encouraged that you read the original post before asking me questions so that I can refrain from repeating what I've already stated.

Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. I'd recommend against saying "read the OP" since I did, and if I am asking you questions, you either misread/misunderstood my questions or were not clear in your original post.

When you make a statement in direct response to me and what I've said such as "I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural," there is actually a very heavy implication that you think I stated that, which is why I responded the way I did. Also, I told you to read the OP numerous times because nearly every question you asked or every request you made was answered or fulfilled in the OP. If I have offended you in any way with my responses then I should let you know that I don't intentionally go out of my way to offend people anymore, and if you feel like I'm trying to offend you with anything I say then it's probably unintentional on my end and just you perceiving my words as offensive.

I suppose I should be more clear. The purpose of my response was more to gauge how you came to hold your views. Is it something you've just learned about over time after reading about it? Did you have this view from a young age? Is it based on personal experiences you've had? I'm not interested in deciding whether you are "right" or "wrong". I am curious as to how you came to your viewpoint in the first place.

Here's why I believe almost everything that I do: I tend to avoid and stray away from emotional sides of arguments as much as possible, there's nothing I've said here or almost anywhere else that isn't backed by some sort of logical appeal. I have never read anything which supports, encourages, or normalizes homosexuality that hasn't used an emotional appeal such as "they're human too" or "everyone deserves equal rights," etc., nor have I read or seen anything which contradicts studies or statistics that are included in the articles which I listed above with the exception of the dispute among psychologists regarding whether homosexuality should be considered a mental illness or not.

TL;DR - you will never find me siding with a viewpoint that challenges the most logical side of the argument

You have a good point. I started that terribly - Perhaps I should work on proof-reading my posts! My apologies. I didn't feel like you explained why homosexuality was a negative to other people in the OP so much. You definitely outlined how it harms people who are homosexual themselves. I suspect the affect on other people is explained in articles you linked, from the looks of the titles. Correct me if I'm wrong there. Again, I apologise for the nature of my reply. Unfortunately, I am very susceptible to taking things personally. The way you post is quite clinical (for want of a better word). It's difficult to see read it without assuming it's said harshly, which is my problem, not yours I guess!

I got that sense from you, which is what I think made me curious. I wondered if there was some sort of focusing event that got you interested enough to follow through with finding more evidence. I appreciate your reply on that and I wish I'd asked you that question in the first place! To be honest, I think the "human side", as it's often described, can make debates like these very challenging. People want to be empathetic which can often distract from objectivity, so I believe I understand your viewpoint.

I'm not interested in debating this, and while I admire the effort you put into this thread, I have to ask: why do you - personally, not from a societal or global view - care?

From what I gather, you're far removed from any and all homosexual behavior, so how are you affected by it? Is it so wrong to live and let live purely because you have conflicting views?

I was kinda wondering about that too. Which is mostly what my second post was getting at. I had initially wondered if there was a bad experience that piqued interest in the matter.

[meow]

I'm not interested in debating this, and while I admire the effort you put into this thread, I have to ask: why do you - personally, not from a societal or global view - care?

From what I gather, you're far removed from any and all homosexual behavior, so how are you affected by it? Is it so wrong to live and let live purely because you have conflicting views?

I care personally because homosexuality is strongly indoctrinated at the school I go to and yes, I am affected by it. If you had asked why I cared on a societal and global level, my response would've been that I care about eradicating degeneracy among humans, which homosexuality is a great example of.

From what I gather, you're far removed from any and all homosexual behavior, so how are you affected by it?

You just asked me how I'm personally affected by homosexuality and in the same post, told me that I'm far removed from homosexual behavior.

Is it so wrong to live and let live purely because you have conflicting views?

In some cases, doing nothing about something bad is just as bad as doing something to support whatever is bad. Also, the reason why I engage on debates over the internet (and real life, for that matter) is because I want to see if there are arguments I haven't yet heard, so that if I'm revealed to be wrong about something, I can change my mind. It's one thing to let something live that will most likely literally never affect you or humanity as a whole, such as maybe a small group at a school, it's a different thing to not bother something such as homosexuality which is for one, degenerate, and two currently being forcefully indoctrinated, normalized, and glorified among youth and society as a whole.

[meow]

Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. Please read my comments more carefully and stop assuming I'm implying or saying things I'm not. I clearly stated that I was wanting your stance, not a dispute. I'd recommend against saying "read the OP" since I did, and if I am asking you questions, you either misread/misunderstood my questions or were not clear in your original post.

When you make a statement in direct response to me and what I've said such as "I get the idea of homosexuality being considered unnatural," there is actually a very heavy implication that you think I stated that, which is why I responded the way I did. Also, I told you to read the OP numerous times because nearly every question you asked or every request you made was answered or fulfilled in the OP. If I have offended you in any way with my responses then I should let you know that I don't intentionally go out of my way to offend people anymore, and if you feel like I'm trying to offend you with anything I say then it's probably unintentional on my end and just you perceiving my words as offensive.

I suppose I should be more clear. The purpose of my response was more to gauge how you came to hold your views. Is it something you've just learned about over time after reading about it? Did you have this view from a young age? Is it based on personal experiences you've had? I'm not interested in deciding whether you are "right" or "wrong". I am curious as to how you came to your viewpoint in the first place.

Here's why I believe almost everything that I do: I tend to avoid and stray away from emotional sides of arguments as much as possible, there's nothing I've said here or almost anywhere else that isn't backed by some sort of logical appeal. I have never read anything which supports, encourages, or normalizes homosexuality that hasn't used an emotional appeal such as "they're human too" or "everyone deserves equal rights," etc., nor have I read or seen anything which contradicts studies or statistics that are included in the articles which I listed above with the exception of the dispute among psychologists regarding whether homosexuality should be considered a mental illness or not.

TL;DR - you will never find me siding with a viewpoint that challenges the most logical side of the argument

You have a good point. I started that terribly - Perhaps I should work on proof-reading my posts! My apologies. I didn't feel like you explained why homosexuality was a negative to other people in the OP so much. You definitely outlined how it harms people who are homosexual themselves. I suspect the affect on other people is explained in articles you linked, from the looks of the titles. Correct me if I'm wrong there. Again, I apologise for the nature of my reply. Unfortunately, I am very susceptible to taking things personally. The way you post is quite clinical (for want of a better word). It's difficult to see read it without assuming it's said harshly, which is my problem, not yours I guess!

I got that sense from you, which is what I think made me curious. I wondered if there was some sort of focusing event that got you interested enough to follow through with finding more evidence. I appreciate your reply on that and I wish I'd asked you that question in the first place! To be honest, I think the "human side", as it's often described, can make debates like these very challenging. People want to be empathetic which can often distract from objectivity, so I believe I understand your viewpoint.

I'm not interested in debating this, and while I admire the effort you put into this thread, I have to ask: why do you - personally, not from a societal or global view - care?

From what I gather, you're far removed from any and all homosexual behavior, so how are you affected by it? Is it so wrong to live and let live purely because you have conflicting views?

I was kinda wondering about that too. Which is mostly what my second post was getting at. I had initially wondered if there was a bad experience that piqued interest in the matter.

You have a good point. I started that terribly - Perhaps I should work on proof-reading my posts! My apologies. I didn't feel like you explained why homosexuality was a negative to other people in the OP so much. You definitely outlined how it harms people who are homosexual themselves. I suspect the affect on other people is explained in articles you linked, from the looks of the titles. Correct me if I'm wrong there. Again, I apologise for the nature of my reply. Unfortunately, I am very susceptible to taking things personally. The way you post is quite clinical (for want of a better word). It's difficult to see read it without assuming it's said harshly, which is my problem, not yours I guess!

You're right, I do type very explicitly. The reason for that is just because I try to avoid trivialities such as trying to seem enthusiastic or excited or happy or whatever when I'm typing in a debate, because I don't see showing emotion in an internet debate as very necessary for getting my point across. I'm much different in real life I promise.