[meow]

By your logic, someone attracted to another gender that has the same bathroom as them is absolutely going to be persuaded to rape them. It's the same shit with rape culture, you're making everyone out to be perverts. By your logic homosexual men should not be allowed to go to the restroom in men's restrooms, as they're sexually attracted to men and cannot be trusted.

Nope, at this point you're mistaking my logic for something it's not. I never said that rapes will happen every time a man and a woman are alone in a bathroom, I said rape and under-aged sex will increase. Same thing with your gay men argument - you're pretending that gay men never rape other men; I'm not saying it always happens, I'm saying it does happen.

[typhoid]

are you really so fuccin brokenheaded mayonaise brains that you think dudes are going to pretend to be trans just so they can use the girls bathroom and that womena re going to get sexually assaulted which is ludicrous when the stigma against trans people is so incredibly extreme that nobody would ever willingly pretend to be trans

In reality the use of public restrooms is far more of a safety issue for trans people than it is for non-trans people in the next stall.

Trans women have the highest murder rates out of any demographic especially non-white trans women and a very high chance of being assaulted or harassed compared to cis women.

TBH i'm pretty much terrified to use any kind of public bathroom now because of how big of a deal this is being made by cissies and because of transphobic people like the ones in this thread-- yes im a trans girl

FYI for the peanuts that are talking about chromosomes and saying chromosomes determine gender you are wrong chromosomes determine sex for the most part and even then they dont 100% always result in the formation of the atypical genitals. There are XX people born male sex and XY people born female sex like de la Chapelle syndrome and Swyer syndrome.

But we're not discussing sex here. We're discussing gender .
Gender identity is determined by the sexually dimorphic regions of the brain such as the the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus and the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis. The volume and neuron count in these regions always matches within the range normally found in people with the cis gender that these trans people identify with.

[roger_smith]

Anyone wasting their time responding to this thread expecting an intellectual response from @meow should know better. This "poll" was biased from the beginning and OP is relying on the "logic" of black/white without fully understanding gender.

You're confusing "sex" with "gender"

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363.php

"Historically, the terms "sex" and "gender" have been used interchangeably, but, in modern society, their meanings are becoming increasingly distinct.

Being clear on the differences between the two concepts is more important than ever.

In this article, we will look at the meaning of "sex" and the differences between the sexes; we will also look at the meaning of "gender," "gender roles," "gender identity" and "gender expression."

In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences. "Gender" is more difficult to define but can refer to the role of a male or female in society (gender role), or an individual's concept of themselves (gender identity).

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary or gender-nonconforming...."

This is actually a much more complicated "issue" than a binary 1 or 0 representation.

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An example of the fallout from the hysteria.
http://www.upworthy.com/one-woman-had-a-...t-bathroom


Excerpt:
"She walked past the three open stalls and stood directly in front of my door. Then she leaned over and placed her eye firmly up against the gap between the door and the frame and stared in at me.


I am not making this up. And let me tell you, it was awkward. Bizarre even. This wasn't a case of someone hoping all those occupied stalls aren't really occupied. Mine was the only stall that was occupied. She deliberately stopped and stared in at me. My startled eyes met hers, and she moved away into one of the larger stalls.

I got out of my stall as quickly as I could, and as I stood washing my hands, her voice called out.

"Sorry about that," she said. "But, you know, Target lets men and homosexuals use just any bathroom. I was making sure you were a woman."

I didn't say a word — because I really didn't know how to answer that...."

[Mw3modderman]

I agree this should be a non-issue, however I swing the opposite way that you do. I don't feel the need to tell people which bathroom they have to use because honestly what difference does it fucking make. People use the bathroom to shit and piss so idk why all these freaks are so insecure with sharing bathrooms with a gender/sex that isn't their own. Get over it...

If you feel the need to tell people which bathroom they can and can't use based on sex, then sadly I believe you have a stick up your ass and care way to much about something that doesn't fucking matter.

Adult man who claims to be a woman but has a beard is clearly very muscular and masculine looking in his facial facets. Should this man be allowed in the bathroom with a 6 year old girl? Fuck no. Think of the implications of your decisions before you spew bullshit. By your logic a man who acts like a man and has a wide can (for a few minutes) claim to be a woman to go the female bathroom. Fuck no, women don't want men in their bathroom, men don't want women in their bathroom. Solution: Majority Rule.
Some Trannies do actually look like the opposite sex of their chromosomes, so I guess if you want to try really hard to pretend to be something you are not and get away with it then I don't really care. Some women are just nasty pretending to be men and it's so obvious that I'd walk right out of the bathroom if I saw them.

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There's a lot to be said about this idiotic and unintelligent post.

@"typhoid"

It's perfectly sane except the condoning of suicide. In reality they should just wear diapers and empty them when they get home.

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By your logic, someone attracted to another gender that has the same bathroom as them is absolutely going to be persuaded to rape them. It's the same shit with rape culture, you're making everyone out to be perverts. By your logic homosexual men should not be allowed to go to the restroom in men's restrooms, as they're sexually attracted to men and cannot be trusted.

Obviously everyone isn't a pervert, but you encourage perverted behaviour when you put the sexes together. This is why in the military men and women are almost always separated. Rape culture is a real thing in the military.

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Anyone wasting their time responding to this thread expecting an intellectual response from @meow should know better. This "poll" was biased from the beginning and OP is relying on the "logic" of black/white without fully understanding gender.

You're confusing "sex" with "gender"

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363.php

"Historically, the terms "sex" and "gender" have been used interchangeably, but, in modern society, their meanings are becoming increasingly distinct.

Being clear on the differences between the two concepts is more important than ever.

In this article, we will look at the meaning of "sex" and the differences between the sexes; we will also look at the meaning of "gender," "gender roles," "gender identity" and "gender expression."

In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences. "Gender" is more difficult to define but can refer to the role of a male or female in society (gender role), or an individual's concept of themselves (gender identity).

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary or gender-nonconforming...."

This is actually a much more complicated "issue" than a binary 1 or 0 representation.

---

An example of the fallout from the hysteria.
http://www.upworthy.com/one-woman-had-a-...t-bathroom


Excerpt:
"She walked past the three open stalls and stood directly in front of my door. Then she leaned over and placed her eye firmly up against the gap between the door and the frame and stared in at me.


I am not making this up. And let me tell you, it was awkward. Bizarre even. This wasn't a case of someone hoping all those occupied stalls aren't really occupied. Mine was the only stall that was occupied. She deliberately stopped and stared in at me. My startled eyes met hers, and she moved away into one of the larger stalls.

I got out of my stall as quickly as I could, and as I stood washing my hands, her voice called out.

"Sorry about that," she said. "But, you know, Target lets men and homosexuals use just any bathroom. I was making sure you were a woman."

I didn't say a word — because I really didn't know how to answer that...."

Let me call your bullshit out. You say that gender is not the same thing as sex. Then why do those who pretend to be the opposite line up their gender with the average person in that sex, often putting dicks on or mutilating their dicks off. Obviously gender and sex are intertwined, we aren't seeing a large group of trannies who look just like males in EVERY way but identify as female, because they want to look like the opposite sex, they have a mental illness (as indicated by their suicide rates). BTW do not claim suicide is the result of oppression, that is bullshit. The suicide rate of Trannies in America is the same as that of Jews in the holocaust, do you honestly believe trannies are as opressed in America as Jews were in the holocaust?

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are you really so fuccin brokenheaded mayonaise brains that you think dudes are going to pretend to be trans just so they can use the girls bathroom and that womena re going to get sexually assaulted which is ludicrous when the stigma against trans people is so incredibly extreme that nobody would ever willingly pretend to be trans

In reality the use of public restrooms is far more of a safety issue for trans people than it is for non-trans people in the next stall.

Trans women have the highest murder rates out of any demographic especially non-white trans women and a very high chance of being assaulted or harassed compared to cis women.

TBH i'm pretty much terrified to use any kind of public bathroom now because of how big of a deal this is being made by cissies and because of transphobic people like the ones in this thread-- yes im a trans girl

FYI for the peanuts that are talking about chromosomes and saying chromosomes determine gender you are wrong chromosomes determine sex for the most part and even then they dont 100% always result in the formation of the atypical genitals. There are XX people born male sex and XY people born female sex like de la Chapelle syndrome and Swyer syndrome.

But we're not discussing sex here. We're discussing gender .
Gender identity is determined by the sexually dimorphic regions of the brain such as the the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus and the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis. The volume and neuron count in these regions always matches within the range normally found in people with the cis gender that these trans people identify with.

I am sorry, I'll talk to you once your done with your mental illness. I believe I already addressed your insanity in my other posts on this forum.

[Sans]

What's on your ID card is what bathroom you should use. Trans people can and have gotten those identification cards changed, and more power to them for having done so. It's part of your identity and having that card validates it even further.

[Dismas]

What's on your ID card is what bathroom you should use. Trans people can and have gotten those identification cards changed, and more power to them for having done so. It's part of your identity and having that card validates it even further.

If it's possible to change their identity card, then that's certainly the best course of action.

[Dozy Van]

are you really so fuccin brokenheaded mayonaise brains that you think dudes are going to pretend to be trans just so they can use the girls bathroom and that womena re going to get sexually assaulted which is ludicrous when the stigma against trans people is so incredibly extreme that nobody would ever willingly pretend to be trans

In reality the use of public restrooms is far more of a safety issue for trans people than it is for non-trans people in the next stall.

Trans women have the highest murder rates out of any demographic especially non-white trans women and a very high chance of being assaulted or harassed compared to cis women.

TBH i'm pretty much terrified to use any kind of public bathroom now because of how big of a deal this is being made by cissies and because of transphobic people like the ones in this thread-- yes im a trans girl

FYI for the peanuts that are talking about chromosomes and saying chromosomes determine gender you are wrong chromosomes determine sex for the most part and even then they dont 100% always result in the formation of the atypical genitals. There are XX people born male sex and XY people born female sex like de la Chapelle syndrome and Swyer syndrome.

But we're not discussing sex here. We're discussing gender .
Gender identity is determined by the sexually dimorphic regions of the brain such as the the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus and the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis. The volume and neuron count in these regions always matches within the range normally found in people with the cis gender that these trans people identify with.

I have read the entire post and finally someone who understands. Opinions with out ever understanding facts are always going to be shit I suppose...


I am not trans myself but I have one or two friends who are. I understand why people don't understand it and have had many heated debates with friends and family about it. I do not understand all the hate that's generated around it.



She played League of Legends professionally and is Trans. And everyone always called her a girl.

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Adult man who claims to be a woman but has a beard is clearly very muscular and masculine looking in his facial facets. Should this man be allowed in the bathroom with a 6 year old girl? Fuck no.

and yet you let him into the room with the 6 year old boy?



Wont even bother to read the rest of your post. Do some reading up on what trans people actually go through. This is no phase this is no mental problem this is no just something they grow out of.

[meow]

are you really so fuccin brokenheaded mayonaise brains that you think dudes are going to pretend to be trans just so they can use the girls bathroom and that womena re going to get sexually assaulted which is ludicrous when the stigma against trans people is so incredibly extreme that nobody would ever willingly pretend to be trans

In reality the use of public restrooms is far more of a safety issue for trans people than it is for non-trans people in the next stall.

Trans women have the highest murder rates out of any demographic especially non-white trans women and a very high chance of being assaulted or harassed compared to cis women.

TBH i'm pretty much terrified to use any kind of public bathroom now because of how big of a deal this is being made by cissies and because of transphobic people like the ones in this thread-- yes im a trans girl

blah blah

I stopped half-way in at this post so that I didn't lose any more brain cells. Only thing I'd like to respond to is

yes im a trans girl

yes im a man with a mental illness that causes me to think i should be a woman*

and yet you let him into the room with the 6 year old boy?

Maybe because it's a restroom for males.

[snip]

@mw3modderman beat me to the response of this post. I know him personally and we share the exact same views, so if I actually responded, it'd just look like I'm parroting him.

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What's on your ID card is what bathroom you should use. Trans people can and have gotten those identification cards changed, and more power to them for having done so. It's part of your identity and having that card validates it even further.

That's a valid argument from a legal standpoint at least, not that I agree with it though. Arguing against it wouldn't mean anything since I can't do anything on my own to change the law.

[Pirate]

Unisex bathrooms are the best solution.
As a huge time Republican I am obviously not a fan of LGBT communities though.

[charles]

I look at it this way,
If you identify as a female, Then you're a female.
If you identify as a male, Then you're a male.

There are many other genders, some don't even fit into the binary; But that's okay. People should be entitled to use the bathroom they see fit.

I see people who say things like "Just give them there own bathroom", This does not work. I'll explain why.

A transgendered / nonbinary person does not want there own bathroom. they want to use the bathroom they identify as.

Also, Transgenderism is a mental illness? Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

BTW, even if it is a "mental disorder", The best "Treatment" Would be letting them enjoy there time as the gender they identify as.