RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 03:22 AM
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RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 04:17 AM
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Some forms of depression are all choice-based. But other types, including what happens after having the choice-based form for too long, result in a decreased ability to feel pleasure, at a chemical level. Certain drugs, most notably S/SRIs, reverse this deficiency by preventing certain neurotransmitters from leaving the synapse, especially those closely related to pleasure.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 12:24 PM
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(10-22-2013, 03:11 AM)Harvey Wrote: Depression is unreasonable I think. No reason to be depressed.
That's not an acceptable thing to say ''No reason to be depressed.'' Because it's just like you said unreasonable, it's also in most cases uncontrollable. If I had a switch to take away my depression I would have. There's a lot of things which come into play for someone with depression, for example your body can be sending out the wrong signals, your body can lack certain things or isn't providing enough etc. My anxiety disorder was even inhereted by my father so that's another thing.
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RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 01:15 PM
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(10-22-2013, 12:24 PM)Groliath Wrote: That's not an acceptable thing to say ''No reason to be depressed.'' Because it's just like you said unreasonable, it's also in most cases uncontrollable. If I had a switch to take away my depression I would have. There's a lot of things which come into play for someone with depression, for example your body can be sending out the wrong signals, your body can lack certain things or isn't providing enough etc. My anxiety disorder was even inhereted by my father so that's another thing.
Sure there are some things you don't have control over, but that alone isn't going to cause depression. You're in control of your own mental game. Some people ignore their mind and let things like depression and anxiety set in.
I'll be blatantly honest and say I occasionally get mild anxiety. But it's not uncontrollable. Sometimes I think some people are okay with being depressed. They don't make a concerned enough effort NOT to be.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 02:14 PM
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(10-22-2013, 12:24 PM)Groliath Wrote: That's not an acceptable thing to say ''No reason to be depressed.'' Because it's just like you said unreasonable, it's also in most cases uncontrollable. If I had a switch to take away my depression I would have. There's a lot of things which come into play for someone with depression, for example your body can be sending out the wrong signals, your body can lack certain things or isn't providing enough etc. My anxiety disorder was even inhereted by my father so that's another thing.
(10-22-2013, 01:15 PM)Harvey Wrote: Sure there are some things you don't have control over, but that alone isn't going to cause depression. You're in control of your own mental game. Some people ignore their mind and let things like depression and anxiety set in.
I'll be blatantly honest and say I occasionally get mild anxiety. But it's not uncontrollable. Sometimes I think some people are okay with being depressed. They don't make a concerned enough effort NOT to be.
I can understand what both of you are saying. Some moods with depression and anxiety are too hard for you to 'break out of'. But I know for a fact when my anxiety kicks in, I just push, and push, and push again until I can do it. I was working on a computer at a back of a glass one time and I needed to get up to print something. My legs would not work. I physically couldn't get up, but I kept forcing myself into trying, and after a while, I got up.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 02:26 PM
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I took the test you gave out in the opening post, here's the result if you're interested: [ Test Results ]
I can't really say that I am surprised based on those results, though I still mean they are faulty. The reason I am not surprised is mainly because I've visited 2 Psychiatrists and both of them have pointed out that I show great traits of depression. Though I replied to them that its not depression, rather curiosity and logical thinking. Of course they blamed my answer as denial of depression. ( Though I still mean that is wrong ) I've, since I was young tried to attain full control over my mental state, and I am getting close each passing year that goes by. I've never really though of an emotion in a negative way, nor do I feel anything towards what most people would call a "touching subject" unless I chose so myself. By that I mean, that I discard or ignore an feeling which I see as useless or annoying at the give time. ( To this point, the only thing I am not able to fully ignore is intense pain. )
I've felt true despair, hatred, sorrow and I've felt the essence of death by myself. I have been at what people would call the edge and I have been rather close to taking my own life, though I am a terrible loser and killing myself would mean that I'll lose. Something which I don't like, so I sat down, though about it and figured out the best way to not lose. Most people either call me a fraud or bluntly say that I am lying if I tell someone about that, mainly because most people don't think of me that way.. Anyhow, the point is that too me depression and to give in on it is a loss, a loss which is not acceptable for me and I will not let anyone lose that way easily either. Which is mainly the reason I dislike seeing someone sad, and I also get a little upset when someone comments that I don't know how it feels.
For those of you who claim that depression at a certain level is not something you can come over by yourself, I will bluntly say that you are wrong. It really depends on the person, a person is fully able to overcome any obstacle they self wish to cross. Its all a matter of mental control and willpower to do so, I am also aware as I said that this only goes for a certain amount of people. While the rest can't do it without help from someone else.
I can't really say that I am surprised based on those results, though I still mean they are faulty. The reason I am not surprised is mainly because I've visited 2 Psychiatrists and both of them have pointed out that I show great traits of depression. Though I replied to them that its not depression, rather curiosity and logical thinking. Of course they blamed my answer as denial of depression. ( Though I still mean that is wrong ) I've, since I was young tried to attain full control over my mental state, and I am getting close each passing year that goes by. I've never really though of an emotion in a negative way, nor do I feel anything towards what most people would call a "touching subject" unless I chose so myself. By that I mean, that I discard or ignore an feeling which I see as useless or annoying at the give time. ( To this point, the only thing I am not able to fully ignore is intense pain. )
I've felt true despair, hatred, sorrow and I've felt the essence of death by myself. I have been at what people would call the edge and I have been rather close to taking my own life, though I am a terrible loser and killing myself would mean that I'll lose. Something which I don't like, so I sat down, though about it and figured out the best way to not lose. Most people either call me a fraud or bluntly say that I am lying if I tell someone about that, mainly because most people don't think of me that way.. Anyhow, the point is that too me depression and to give in on it is a loss, a loss which is not acceptable for me and I will not let anyone lose that way easily either. Which is mainly the reason I dislike seeing someone sad, and I also get a little upset when someone comments that I don't know how it feels.
For those of you who claim that depression at a certain level is not something you can come over by yourself, I will bluntly say that you are wrong. It really depends on the person, a person is fully able to overcome any obstacle they self wish to cross. Its all a matter of mental control and willpower to do so, I am also aware as I said that this only goes for a certain amount of people. While the rest can't do it without help from someone else.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 02:43 PM
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(10-22-2013, 02:26 PM)Ichi Wrote: I took the test you gave out in the opening post, here's the result if you're interested: [ Test Results ]
I can't really say that I am surprised based on those results, though I still mean they are faulty. The reason I am not surprised is mainly because I've visited 2 Psychiatrists and both of them have pointed out that I show great traits of depression. Though I replied to them that its not depression, rather curiosity and logical thinking. Of course they blamed my answer as denial of depression. ( Though I still mean that is wrong ) I've, since I was young tried to attain full control over my mental state, and I am getting close each passing year that goes by. I've never really though of an emotion in a negative way, nor do I feel anything towards what most people would call a "touching subject" unless I chose so myself. By that I mean, that I discard or ignore an feeling which I see as useless or annoying at the give time. ( To this point, the only thing I am not able to fully ignore is intense pain. )
I've felt true despair, hatred, sorrow and I've felt the essence of death by myself. I have been at what people would call the edge and I have been rather close to taking my own life, though I am a terrible loser and killing myself would mean that I'll lose. Something which I don't like, so I sat down, though about it and figured out the best way to not lose. Most people either call me a fraud or bluntly say that I am lying if I tell someone about that, mainly because most people don't think of me that way.. Anyhow, the point is that too me depression and to give in on it is a loss, a loss which is not acceptable for me and I will not let anyone lose that way easily either. Which is mainly the reason I dislike seeing someone sad, and I also get a little upset when someone comments that I don't know how it feels.
For those of you who claim that depression at a certain level is not something you can come over by yourself, I will bluntly say that you are wrong. It really depends on the person, a person is fully able to overcome any obstacle they self wish to cross. Its all a matter of mental control and willpower to do so, I am also aware as I said that this only goes for a certain amount of people. While the rest can't do it without help from someone else.
This sounds exactly like me. I've been near 'the edge' before, too. But I see it as losing and becoming a failure. I can control my ability to be ill (To some extent) and some times control my 'depression' I just need a cause. Now sitting at home on a computer for your school holidays is only going to make you feel depressed. It's down to having a motivation and something to do to almost make you forget of your depressive state.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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(10-22-2013, 02:43 PM)xLinear Wrote: This sounds exactly like me. I've been near 'the edge' before, too. But I see it as losing and becoming a failure. I can control my ability to be ill (To some extent) and some times control my 'depression' I just need a cause. Now sitting at home on a computer for your school holidays is only going to make you feel depressed. It's down to having a motivation and something to do to almost make you forget of your depressive state.
Its seems as we have partly different views, and I don't see losing as becoming a failure. To me, losing is an opportunity for change. What I meant by controlling my mental state is that I am able to not be sad, in pain ( most of the time ), sick, depressed, angry or a like unless U self chose to be it. Unless its a drastic event or time, which would make it more difficult to do so. I also lack motivation and I have no purpose for living, nor do I find any entertainment it 99% of things I do. I simply dislike losing in something like this, and I dislike seeing people sad ( if I care for them ) and killing myself wouldn't really make everyone happier...
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RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 02:50 PM
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(10-22-2013, 02:47 PM)Ichi Wrote: Its seems as we have partly different views, and I don't see losing as becoming a failure. To me, losing is an opportunity for change. What I meant by controlling my mental state is that I am able to not be sad, in pain ( most of the time ), sick, depressed, angry or a like unless U self chose to be it. Unless its a drastic event or time, which would make it more difficult to do so. I also lack motivation and I have no purpose for living, nor do I find any entertainment it 99% of things I do. I simply dislike losing in something like this, and I dislike seeing people sad ( if I care for them ) and killing myself wouldn't really make everyone happier...
This does sound relatable to me, in that I've gown up with just me and my mum, she doesn't really have anyone else. She's the reason I've not taken any drastic measures, I can't leave her alone.
RE: Depression 10-22-2013, 03:01 PM
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(10-22-2013, 02:50 PM)xLinear Wrote: This does sound relatable to me, in that I've gown up with just me and my mum, she doesn't really have anyone else. She's the reason I've not taken any drastic measures, I can't leave her alone.
Well, that is not the way I think. As I only stated that I dislike seeing people sad, and if I were dead, that wouldn't have been a problem. ( Unless we turn into ghosts and all that, which I don't believe in. ) I've already lost the person whom I have had the closest relationship to in my life long ago, and I highly doubt that I am labeled as the most important person in someone's life. ( I may be important to someone, but not the most important ) Therefore I believe that they are able to handle if I shall die. I Just made a promise at the said person's grave, that I will not let my emotions and ideas rule over my life, but that I would use my emotions to help others and my ideas to help me rule over my own life.
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