[Hatemind]

I'm like this every day. I used to be really into music, I lost that. The only thing I enjoy anymore is coding and pentesting. I've been told before that it's just a part of growing up, that could be it, but really the only thing you can do without seeing a doctor is push through it and find something that you do enjoy. I don't even like antidepressants, so I'm completely fucked there, although you should give them a chance if you see a doctor and they give them to you, they might work for you.

Good luck with your mental "health", if you're anything like me you'll need it. At least you don't have daily migraines that completely stop you from functioning.

Dang.
I've read a bit about antidepressants, but people say that it was the last thing to do and that they didn't really support them.
I don't know, I guess I'll have to do that if it can't be solved natrually.
Thank you for replying, by the way.

I was prescribed them after I was started on ADHD meds to try to fix depression and ADD, but those made me fucking insane and I would cry and laugh at the same time, legit fucking tears. The antidepressants didn't make me feel much different besides erectile dysfunction (not normal, but they made my ADD worse, I'd lose interest in everything after 30 seconds max). Needless to say, I can see why that would be a last choice.
It's no problem, I know how you feel.

[Spirit]

First of all, check that link I sent you and make sure you clicked all the boxes necessary to delete old messages. Don't just click clear. Read everything on the page and if that fails report it as a bug OR talk to bluedog, or something.

On to the depression or whatever you want to call it, I find that it's very common among programmers, hackers, and so on. I'd recommend for you to try exercising. Just give it a chance. It actually can feel good sometimes.

I think everyone else has the rest covered.

[RaccoonCity_mybb_import13707]

First of all, check that link I sent you and make sure you clicked all the boxes necessary to delete old messages. Don't just click clear. Read everything on the page and if that fails report it as a bug OR talk to bluedog, or something.

On to the depression or whatever you want to call it, I find that it's very common among programmers, hackers, and so on. I'd recommend for you to try exercising. Just give it a chance. It actually can feel good sometimes.

I think everyone else has the rest covered.

Can you send me the link again?
I've deleted my PM's over 5 times in a row now. lol

[chmod]

First of all, check that link I sent you and make sure you clicked all the boxes necessary to delete old messages. Don't just click clear. Read everything on the page and if that fails report it as a bug OR talk to bluedog, or something.

On to the depression or whatever you want to call it, I find that it's very common among programmers, hackers, and so on. I'd recommend for you to try exercising. Just give it a chance. It actually can feel good sometimes.

I think everyone else has the rest covered.

Can you send me the link again?
I've deleted my PM's over 5 times in a row now. lol

Make sure you check your trash can as well as deleted messages get sent there and still count towards your limit.

[Spirit]

@"RaccoonCity"
How am I supposed to PM you if you have a full inbox? o:

[RaccoonCity_mybb_import13707]

@chmod
@Maxx

I made it!
I simply had to export some old PM's. :3

[Yung Lean]

I had same problems as you are having now. But I had them for almost 2 years. I started working out and that actually helped to become more confident more social. Having more energy.

[alok9shm]

I went through the same phase a year ago, and almost everyone has to go through this atleast once in their lifetime.

You should try taking break from your normal life, go for a holiday if possible. Take your friends too.

Last year I was depressed too much, and I asked my friends if they wanted to come with me for a short holiday. Even they refused. So, I packed, and left for my Grandpa's home [approx 1672 kms away from my place] alone. And that helped me a lot.

Hope you recover soon.

[Deque]

@BlueCat @"RaccoonCity"

I suffered serious depression starting about 20 years ago and it lasted about 10 years. I fully recovered from it.
That said some advice from me:

Find something that pushes your selfconfidence. Something active, and possible something with other people involved.
Physical activity is good, sunshine is good, contact to people is good.
Since it is a symptom not to have any motivation for doing these things: Involve friends and family, make them push you to do these things. Make them push you to go out. It is really important, although you might not feel a sudden effect. You need consistency.

Recognize whenever you get into a spiral of bad thoughts. Recognize the circumstances, note the things that made you going into the bad thought spiral.
Second step: Once you recognize the bad thought spiral, you need to do something to break it. It is your task to find out what helps, it depends on the circumstances or triggers you detected. Get away from them. E.g. if you got into the bad thinking, because you are alone, get someone to talk on the phone or go out to meet people.

^ The two paragraphs above are the small things that also help for very mild forms of depression (even such forms that are not really a depression from a clinical standpoint, but a normal reaction to your circumstances). The rest of my advice is rather for the serious type. You will know if you have it. If you don't have it, be glad and grateful. It is one of the most terrible things that can happen.

Note: Being able to cry and feel is a very good sign. If you can not even cry anymore, that's when things are the worst.

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Bad thoughts about yourself and the world are a symptom, not the reality. Your perception is distorted. Don't believe in it. If you think, it will never be any better and you would like to end it, don't believe in it. Your alarm bell should ring. It is your distorted perception. Get help. Immediately.

Antidepressants are the last resort, imho. They have side effects, for example more appetite. The kind of side effects depend on the type of antidepressant. Sometimes, however, medication is necessary to push you doing the first steps. Medication should never be the only solution, it only works well together with other treatments.

If it doesn't go away, find out the reason for your depression. Maybe with a therapist.

Never be too proud or too shy to ask for help (no matter if that is asking friends, family or doctors). Although you might not see any reason for being depressed: It doesn't matter if you have reasons. You don't feel well and need help. That is all that matters. Depression is a serious condition and having bad episodes without knowing a good reason for them is a symptom of it. Finding the reasons for depression might be part of therapy, but might also be not necessary or possible. It depends. You have to find out, what works for you.

If it is very serious: Accept the fact that you have depression and that it is something, you probably have to live with. Some people live with it all their live. Do not ignore it, do not pretend it isn't there. It is, it will come back and you have to deal with it.
I myself am always prepared to see the signs for it to come back and I work actively against it to prevent things from going down. However, I hadn't had any serious episodes for 10 years.

Last but not least, two TED talks you might find interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBUcBfkVCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1QoyTmeAYw

[RaccoonCity_mybb_import13707]

@BlueCat @RaccoonCity

I suffered serious depression starting about 20 years ago and it lasted about 10 years. I fully recovered from it.
That said some advice from me:

Find something that pushes your selfconfidence. Something active, and possible something with other people involved.
Physical activity is good, sunshine is good, contact to people is good.
Since it is a symptom not to have any motivation for doing these things: Involve friends and family, make them push you to do these things. Make them push you to go out. It is really important, although you might not feel a sudden effect. You need consistency.

Recognize whenever you get into a spiral of bad thoughts. Recognize the circumstances, note the things that made you going into the bad thought spiral.
Second step: Once you recognize the bad thought spiral, you need to do something to break it. It is your task to find out what helps, it depends on the circumstances or triggers you detected. Get away from them. E.g. if you got into the bad thinking, because you are alone, get someone to talk on the phone or go out to meet people.

^ The two paragraphs above are the small things that also help for very mild forms of depression (even such forms that are not really a depression from a clinical standpoint, but a normal reaction to your circumstances). The rest of my advice is rather for the serious type. You will know if you have it. If you don't have it, be glad and grateful. It is one of the most terrible things that can happen.

Note: Being able to cry and feel is a very good sign. If you can not even cry anymore, that's when things are the worst.

---

Bad thoughts about yourself and the world are a symptom, not the reality. Your perception is distorted. Don't believe in it. If you think, it will never be any better and you would like to end it, don't believe in it. Your alarm bell should ring. It is your distorted perception. Get help. Immediately.

Antidepressants are the last resort, imho. They have side effects, for example more appetite. The kind of side effects depend on the type of antidepressant. Sometimes, however, medication is necessary to push you doing the first steps. Medication should never be the only solution, it only works well together with other treatments.

If it doesn't go away, find out the reason for your depression. Maybe with a therapist.

Never be too proud or too shy to ask for help (no matter if that is asking friends, family or doctors). Although you might not see any reason for being depressed: It doesn't matter if you have reasons. You don't feel well and need help. That is all that matters. Depression is a serious condition and having bad episodes without knowing a good reason for them is a symptom of it. Finding the reasons for depression might be part of therapy, but might also be not necessary or possible. It depends. You have to find out, what works for you.

If it is very serious: Accept the fact that you have depression and that it is something, you probably have to live with. Some people live with it all their live. Do not ignore it, do not pretend it isn't there. It is, it will come back and you have to deal with it.
I myself am always prepared to see the signs for it to come back and I work actively against it to prevent things from going down. However, I hadn't had any serious episodes for 10 years.

Last but not least, two TED talks you might find interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBUcBfkVCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1QoyTmeAYw

Thank you.
The Andrew Solomon TED talk was very intresting.

This helped me out alot.