[billyferg]

I definitely just rely on being a good person. Who cares what the other person believes about God, you should still treat them right.

[299jvx]

good person.
I do think being a good person needs faith, not strictly religion.

[Leonidas76]

This is of course a very interesting topic, which has been discussed rigoroursly in the past.

I believe Nietzsche comes closest with his analysis in 'On the Genealogy of Morality' showing the reversal of virues and what is meant by being 'good' throughout the ages.

If I remember correctly, and this is of course widely generalised, he starts with stating that under the Greeks and Romans, being good was being strong, being a 'real' warrior, fighting for your family and for honour. It was not helping the poor, the weak or being tolerant for other opinions. This all changed with the monoistic religions, Christianity, Judaism and to some extent Muslims (although I do not think he mentions them). There came a 'slave revolt in morality' which changed what we deemed good. Which then became caring for others, looking out for the poor and the weak, all the things we still associate with religion.

Religions claim what they believe to be 'good' based on natural law. Now I would dare to state that only if you believe in this natural law, you can truly believe in something such as good or bad, if you don't, and follow Nietzsche's analysis, that what is good or bad changes through history (look at the Nazi's, they were fully convinced they did 'good') then you cannot really believe in something as good or bad, it is simply a relative and an opinion.

So also while reading this thread, it obviously doesn't matter if you follow religion, as religious people can do 'bad' as well. But still we are comparing that with Christian and Jewish (or Muslim) morals, something which would suggest that 'being good' means 'acting religiously' although that doesn't mean attending church and reading the bible every day.

[peakyfblinder]

A good person, in Islam we say if men were naturally good we wouldn't need the prophets or the scriptures.

[scargo]

its personal choice, but i cant prove religion, yet still i can proof the existence of good person

[tysoncortwright9]

A person can be spiritual and not religious at the same time. We must understand that not all religious people are truly good, and not all atheists are bad. You make your choices based on your inner feelings and desires. I go to church at https://firstchurchlove.com, and I love God with all my soul, but I can't talk about myself as a religious person. Many people talk about religion as a kind of slavery or a cult, where one is obligated to follow the rules. That is absolutely not true. People misunderstand many of the words of Jesus, and this creates difficulties. Be what you want to be, but remain a kind and honest person.

[siaodongSE]

Most religions teach followers to be good people.
So you can be both religious and a good person. No clashes.

[samrib]

The religion is just here to give you guideline to be a good person

[0xTodd]

most religions teach you to be a good person, it is the teachers who pollute the holy texts of the world...you know "the illuminati" call it sacred text, just respect somebody above us controlled that book before humans touched it

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I definitely just rely on being a good person. Who cares what the other person believes about God, you should still treat them right.

these are facts. old comment but facts!!

[kurdio]

The world would've been peaceful and better if religion had not existed.

100% no questions. a lot easier to convince an army of 100k men to die for eternal blessing than it is to pay them outright