[Red_mybb_import25644]

Opinions are terrible for feedback, and as far from constructive feedback as possible. It does have a slight inner shadow and drop shadow, giving off the same effect as "Bevel and Emboss" would, just not as bad. So as I said, I didn't make it visible enough. Though it is there. That was taken into account and I have lighten it up. The "off-center" part, that would be the wrong term. Its not completely mirrored. Though I get your point.

0_o Pretty sure most people's feedback on things is their opinion. Eg i don't like this maybe do this etc

[yokai]

0_o Pretty sure most people's feedback on things is their opinion. Eg i don't like this maybe do this etc

That is not constructive feedback though. Giving such feedback in a professional setting would just get your weird looks, especially if the feedback you stated was wrong.

[Red_mybb_import25644]

That is not constructive feedback though. Giving such feedback in a professional setting would just get your weird looks, especially if the feedback you stated was wrong.

That makes no sense, How can feedback ever be wrong? Feedback is feedback whether it is constructive criticism, opinions or advice you can't be wrong or right with feedback it's information gathered on a product or a task that is then used to improve that task/product. You posted this thread so swallow your pride and expect people's opinions and criticism it's life. I don't want to argue or continue this on because my mouse/keyboard is having a fit, deleting words or making me type on another line.

[yokai]

That makes no sense, How can feedback ever be wrong? Feedback is feedback whether it is constructive criticism, opinions or advice you can't be wrong or right with feedback it's information gathered on a product or a task that is then used to improve that task/product. You posted this thread so swallow your pride and expect people's opinions and criticism it's life. I don't want to argue or continue this on because my mouse/keyboard is having a fit, deleting words or making me type on another line.

Feedback is feedback, and constructive feedback is constructive feedback. They have one major difference though, one is useful and the other is not. Opinions depends on each individual, which is what we call an subjective view. Objective views are what is used in constructive feedback, what is objectively bad or wrong. If it falls under this category then the person who points out should be able to explain why without using their own subjective view as a source.

And swallow my pride? Is that the right term to use here? (I honestly don't know.) I posted this to gain a chance to improve on it, not hear people's bland complaints. That doesn't interest me, so subjective meaning doesn't interest me. Objective views interests me, as that is what brings fourth improvement. Saying wrong things is wrong, no matter how you look at it. He stated that I should use another tool to gain the exact same look as I had, now where is the improvement in that? Oh right, nowhere to be seen.

I have no "pride" to speak of, as I am never happy with anything I make. People tend to say that I "act" as if I am not, only to get praise. But I have no interest in what others thing of me, be it good or ill. I was and am after improvement, not nagging.

[Red_mybb_import25644]

Not continuing this on, Have a nice day.

[Theós]

That is not constructive feedback though. Giving such feedback in a professional setting would just get your weird looks, especially if the feedback you stated was wrong.

That makes no sense, How can feedback ever be wrong? Feedback is feedback whether it is constructive criticism, opinions or advice you can't be wrong or right with feedback it's information gathered on a product or a task that is then used to improve that task/product. You posted this thread so swallow your pride and expect people's opinions and criticism it's life. I don't want to argue or continue this on because my mouse/keyboard is having a fit, deleting words or making me type on another line.

What he says is true Red.

"He stated that I should use another tool to gain the exact same look as I had, now where is the improvement in that? Oh right, nowhere to be seen."

I said that he should use a certain effect (which he already has, just in a different way). So I gave a false suggestion claiming that he didn't use a certain effect, which he has, but in a different way. It did, however, shed light on the fact that his userbar was a bit dark. So there's some positives that came from that.

Also using the word choice off-center was bad on my part. Inton explained to me that the reason it looked off center, (which I even took a screen shot of) is because he used a backshadow that made it look sort of off. So I was wrong there too, while it indeed looked off centered, it wasn't, as he used a backshadow. I talked with inton, he gave me very good advice, saying to critique on what I see not think.

Inton is a very insightful and intelligent person, and he knows what he talks about. Of course he says the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH, which others can probably take offensively. But in the real world, that is how it must be, because if not, you will NOT move forward.

I'm learning a lot from him tbh, things I have not even considered myself. People say I'm a good designer, but that is far from the truth, I still have much to learn in all aspects of it.

That's my take on it. Just taking the courage to admit that I am wrong

[Red_mybb_import25644]

Yeah i know this is why i am no longer continuing it on he has made his point and i learnt a thing or two xD. I can tell he is very intelligent individual, To be fair you don't see to many people like this on many online Forums. I have no beef with him i just voiced opinion on this matter how i saw it now i see it differently after the things Inton has said so in away this turned out good

[Azzid]

Anychance you could make me some please? for free if possible

[Jebusfathead]

You know why I don't like people arguing in threads? It means they get to post more while I'm here stuck with my boring posts

[Zodiac]

Please stop arguing guys.

I think the bar looks really nice. If you made a set, you could easily sell that. Nice job man.