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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #221
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 03:56 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-20-2017, 12:22 PM)Caligio Wrote: macOS Sierra or Linux Ubuntu(personal use)/Kali(pen testing obviously).

(10-20-2017, 01:50 PM)mothered Wrote: A diverse setup dedicated according to usability. I don't come across too many users who segregate their computing to this degree.

Are they running as physical hosts, or are some as guests (VMs)?

In my notebook i use ubuntu/mint, and in my desktop i use Windows 10 as host and 16 VMs (Linux). To run multiple VMs i have 64GB of RAM.

Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

This is one of my virtualization servers (for a business network). It's got a few TB of NVMe storage, and a SSD just to hold the config, 48GB of ECC memory, and 16 cores of 2.93ghz server CPU's...
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11 VMs, and a good number of them aren't even running anymore (either deprecated or still being built). So how you need 16 for personal use i dont know...

I do not use them all at the same time.
I like to have very well-split and configured environments with just what is needed to perform a task. For example, I use a VM just to work with wordpress development.

I removed one.
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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #222
(10-21-2017, 09:40 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 03:56 PM)NullS3c Wrote: In my notebook i use ubuntu/mint, and in my desktop i use Windows 10 as host and 16 VMs (Linux). To run multiple VMs i have 64GB of RAM.

Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

This is one of my virtualization servers (for a business network). It's got a few TB of NVMe storage, and a SSD just to hold the config, 48GB of ECC memory, and 16 cores of 2.93ghz server CPU's...
[Image: ZLNzlVY.png]

11 VMs, and a good number of them aren't even running anymore (either deprecated or still being built). So how you need 16 for personal use i dont know...

I do not use them all at the same time.
I like to have very well-split and configured environments with just what is needed to perform a task. For example, I use a VM just to work with wordpress development.

I removed one.
[Image: BDpDUod.png]

Seems like you have multiple VM's all related to programming. Is there any reason why you don't just do it all on the same machine?

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #223
(10-21-2017, 09:50 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 09:40 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

This is one of my virtualization servers (for a business network). It's got a few TB of NVMe storage, and a SSD just to hold the config, 48GB of ECC memory, and 16 cores of 2.93ghz server CPU's...
[Image: ZLNzlVY.png]

11 VMs, and a good number of them aren't even running anymore (either deprecated or still being built). So how you need 16 for personal use i dont know...

I do not use them all at the same time.
I like to have very well-split and configured environments with just what is needed to perform a task. For example, I use a VM just to work with wordpress development.

I removed one.
[Image: BDpDUod.png]

Seems like you have multiple VM's all related to programming. Is there any reason why you don't just do it all on the same machine?

No, I just like to leave the environments organized that way. But in the case of web server and db server, it's because they are console only.
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2017, 10:28 PM by NullS3c.)

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #224
(10-21-2017, 10:23 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 09:50 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 09:40 PM)NullS3c Wrote: I do not use them all at the same time.
I like to have very well-split and configured environments with just what is needed to perform a task. For example, I use a VM just to work with wordpress development.

I removed one.
[Image: BDpDUod.png]

Seems like you have multiple VM's all related to programming. Is there any reason why you don't just do it all on the same machine?

No, I just like to leave the environments organized that way. But in the case of web server and db server, it's because they are console only.

Most servers are, but just because they're console doesn't mean they need to be separate virtual machines. I use separate servers for mine partly because I use a mix of T-SQL and MySQL, and the databases I have store local govt information, so it's a requirement that they not be connected to the internet.

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #225
(10-21-2017, 10:49 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 10:23 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 09:50 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Seems like you have multiple VM's all related to programming. Is there any reason why you don't just do it all on the same machine?

No, I just like to leave the environments organized that way. But in the case of web server and db server, it's because they are console only.

Most servers are, but just because they're console doesn't mean they need to be separate virtual machines. I use separate servers for mine partly because I use a mix of T-SQL and MySQL, and the databases I have store local govt information, so it's a requirement that they not be connected to the internet.

Your separation makes more sense than mine kkkkk.
But i separate server beacause i never use the same VM for server and for development. To server i use hardering and more restrictive security rules.
To development i need less restrictive rules and use graphical interface to use programs like visual studio code, atom, sublime, mysql workbench, genmymodel, browser and other visual tools.
For development i need more flexibility and for server i need the maximum security as possible.
Sometimes I separate to avoid version compatibility errors. For example, sailsjs give some problems with the last version of node js, but i like to use the last version of node js in Ionic 3 and angular 4.

Note: Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #226
(10-21-2017, 11:29 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 10:49 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 10:23 PM)NullS3c Wrote: No, I just like to leave the environments organized that way. But in the case of web server and db server, it's because they are console only.

Most servers are, but just because they're console doesn't mean they need to be separate virtual machines. I use separate servers for mine partly because I use a mix of T-SQL and MySQL, and the databases I have store local govt information, so it's a requirement that they not be connected to the internet.

Your separation makes more sense than mine kkkkk.
But i separate server beacause i never use the same VM for server and for development. To server i use hardering and more restrictive security rules.
To development i need less restrictive rules and use graphical interface to use programs like visual studio code, atom, sublime, mysql workbench, genmymodel, browser and other visual tools.
For development i need more flexibility and for server i need the maximum security as possible.
Sometimes I separate to avoid version compatibility errors. For example, sailsjs give some problems with the last version of node js, but i like to use the last version of node js in Ionic 3 and angular 4.

Note: Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.

That's fair. I've almost never any need for a graphical environment. Most of the code I write I'm using Vi (yes, I know I'm old school), MySQL has a very amazing command line interface (it even does text formatted tables for you!), and all of the compiler lines are command line anyways.

I do see a good point in separating out for version compatibilities though. I don't use Node (or any JS framework for that matter), because I think those things are terrible languages to begin with, and my views on anyone who tries to write desktop software using a web scripting language are very low. But whatever works for you works man.

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #227
(10-21-2017, 11:34 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 11:29 PM)NullS3c Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 10:49 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Most servers are, but just because they're console doesn't mean they need to be separate virtual machines. I use separate servers for mine partly because I use a mix of T-SQL and MySQL, and the databases I have store local govt information, so it's a requirement that they not be connected to the internet.

Your separation makes more sense than mine kkkkk.
But i separate server beacause i never use the same VM for server and for development. To server i use hardering and more restrictive security rules.
To development i need less restrictive rules and use graphical interface to use programs like visual studio code, atom, sublime, mysql workbench, genmymodel, browser and other visual tools.
For development i need more flexibility and for server i need the maximum security as possible.
Sometimes I separate to avoid version compatibility errors. For example, sailsjs give some problems with the last version of node js, but i like to use the last version of node js in Ionic 3 and angular 4.

Note: Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.

That's fair. I've almost never any need for a graphical environment. Most of the code I write I'm using Vi (yes, I know I'm old school), MySQL has a very amazing command line interface (it even does text formatted tables for you!), and all of the compiler lines are command line anyways.

I do see a good point in separating out for version compatibilities though. I don't use Node (or any JS framework for that matter), because I think those things are terrible languages to begin with, and my views on anyone who tries to write desktop software using a web scripting language are very low. But whatever works for you works man.

Previously I also only used vim and nano to develop, but after that I started using c# with visual studio to create graphical interface, i too started using GUI for everything.

You who like terminal and do not like node js, try to take a look at the terminal-kit, i think that you might like this. https://www.npmjs.com/package/terminal-kit

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #228
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

I'm also eager to read the reply to this.

At the moment (Inclusive of my IDS/IPS x2), I have 6 VMs running and that's ample for my usability.
EDIT: Just noticed the reply.
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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #229
(10-22-2017, 02:12 AM)mothered Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

I'm also eager to read the reply to this.

At the moment (Inclusive of my IDS/IPS x2), I have 6 VMs running and that's ample for my usability.
EDIT: Just noticed the reply.

He actually gave an answer for why he had so many. Many of them are duplicate OSes with different versions of tools he uses for programming (which seems to be mostly Node). I can understand this for being someone who either does a LOT of development or very little. Making sure you know the exact minimum version may be important in those cases.

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RE: What is your favorite Operating System? #230
(10-22-2017, 02:50 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:
(10-22-2017, 02:12 AM)mothered Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 04:46 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Ok, I'm curious, what on Earth could you possibly need 16 virtual machines for? And how do you have the system resources for it?

I'm also eager to read the reply to this.

At the moment (Inclusive of my IDS/IPS x2), I have 6 VMs running and that's ample for my usability.
EDIT: Just noticed the reply.

He actually gave an answer for why he had so many. Many of them are duplicate OSes with different versions of tools he uses for programming (which seems to be mostly Node). I can understand this for being someone who either does a LOT of development or very little. Making sure you know the exact minimum version may be important in those cases.

Yes, I saw his reply shortly after my previous post and edited my post stating just that.

I see his point with tools of different versions and certainly agree. Many years ago I was also running 10+ VMs (not simultaneously), with each one catered to It's usability and different In It's overall setup and Installed applications/tools.
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