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RE: Gay Marriage in the US #13
To be honest, the gay marriage debate has nothing to do with gay rights, and everything to do with legality and how people in a marriage are treated in a court room. The Supreme Court of the United States has literally made a landmark case that will change how many things work in law permanently. I don't think people get how this works quite yet, but it will kick in soon.

To really understand how this is such a landmark case, first you need to understand something about how the court system works. In a court ruling (particularly a high one such as this) there is a fatal flaw in how the laws work that allows for courts to override laws. Because of the fact that a court cannot be convicted for the ruling that they make, they can technically make decisions that are above the law. This and states rights is actually what a lot of the civil war was fought over (it wasn't about the slaves even remotely). Up until this point, the US judiciary system has never actually done this, in fact they have been very careful not to. This is because the judiciary body is not used as a legislature; it is merely there to tell people how law works not to make it.

This ruling sets a dangerous precedent.

Now the judiciary system is able to ignore laws freely and rule in any ways it likes. Do the courts think that you need 37 years in prison for cussing once? So be it, they can change laws. If you think I am spouting nonsense, this is actually the main part of the dissenting argument:

Justice Antonin Scalia Wrote:This case is about power in several respects. It is about the power of our people to govern themselves, and the power of this Court to pronounce the law. Today's opinion aggrandizes the latter, with the predictable consequence of diminishing the former. We have no power to decide this case. And even if we did, we have no power under the Constitution to invalidate this democratically adopted legislation.

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There are even more things fucked up about this ruling and how it treats people in a marriage.

First of all, now that any two people not just a man or a women can be in a relationship, by the law you are as much as a stranger to your own child as you are to your partner. This allows for legalized "synthetic-orphanization", where a government body can take your child for as long as it is concerned, you are not the person you had it. You could be strait, gay, or lesbian; the child could be yours or not, they simply do not care.

This ruling has nothing to do with gay rights, and everything to do with your rights.

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Gay Marriage in the US - by xevenofhearts - 06-26-2015, 07:20 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Oni - 06-26-2015, 07:23 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Dyme - 06-27-2015, 05:06 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by roger_smith - 06-27-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Dyme - 06-27-2015, 05:47 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Crypt - 06-26-2015, 08:08 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by mothered - 06-27-2015, 06:08 AM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Saikou - 06-27-2015, 08:08 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by xevenofhearts - 06-28-2015, 02:49 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by roger_smith - 06-28-2015, 02:53 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by xevenofhearts - 06-28-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by roger_smith - 06-28-2015, 08:07 PM
RE: Gay Marriage in the US - by Vertigo - 06-29-2015, 01:32 AM



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