RE: How would you stop mass shootings? 05-16-2023, 08:17 PM
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(05-13-2023, 04:44 PM)Crying Wolf Wrote: As always, I refer to how it looks in Poland, because I have no right to comment on the US.
In Poland we have a lot of blackpowder firearms (e.g. colt navy), because they do not require any permit, if you are 18yo you just go to the store and buy them.
For other firearms, you need a special permit, which is not that hard to get.
There are about 1 million guns for every 40 million people.
Most gun deaths occur in the woods, as older hunters mistake their friends for wild boars, others are suicides at the shooting range, shootings are very rare.
Poland is about 87% Christian Catholic, and the US is about 65% Catholic split between Protestants and Catholics.
Whether we are Muslim, Christian or Buddhist we must agree that our religions teach us morality.
Therefore, I believe that the cause of shootings is a lack of morality, not the fault of guns.
Thank you so much to both for sharing your opinions. They mean a lot to me and always give me something to think about.
First off, thanks for giving some knowledge about Poland (a place I really want to visit soon). I had no idea it was pretty easy to get a weapon there.
I'm an atheist, and I agree with you that religion can teach morality. However, I also think that secular morality plays a major role. It's something that develops, even unconsciously, as we grow up..., whether it's within our families or in our social circles.
When someone does extreme actions like the ones we're talking about, whether they're religious or not, they lose control of their moral conscience; and even before that, they let go of their inhibitions brakes, which I believe are the foundation of all human actions.
(05-16-2023, 01:00 AM)Mr.Kurd Wrote:(05-13-2023, 04:37 PM)splindoffi Wrote:(05-13-2023, 11:29 AM)Mr.Kurd Wrote: I'm going to give you an Islamic solution.. in Islam it is fine to own a gun or what ever weapons you have but ( Killing others without a real reason like "He killed someone else" is Haram.
In that case either, the family will have to kill you back or forgive you.. Depends on the family and situations tho .
When these mass shooting happen, they are sending them only into jail and after sometime they come out.. Even tho, taking someones freedom can be a heavy penalty but still it doesn't make him/her scare or stop the act of "shooting" or "killing".. So when you kill the person back or cut hands if he/she was a thief .. others will remember this of course 100% and they will think twice before doing anything wrong..
In america, you have thousends of Mafias in Jail, they are growing up thier and when they come out the first thing to do is buying a new gun or weapon. You guys have to remove these kind of "viruses" around and inside you.
Thank you so much for expressing your opinion.
Personally, I do not feel to agree 100% with you, but I am sure we could discuss a lot (if it hasn't already been done before) about the usefulness of prison time as a tool for rehabilitation and social reintegration, as opposed to more severe punishments.
I have a very busy schedule but if you want sure why not.. Will try to find sometime.
Don't worry, we all have our things to do

Maybe in the next days I'll start a thread about this, as I'd really like to hear people's opinions about this kind of topic. I can message you if you let me, so you'll notice when I post it.
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