RE: Thoughts on andrew tate? 02-18-2023, 07:33 PM
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(02-18-2023, 06:36 PM)Tee Wrote:(02-18-2023, 06:27 PM)Nyx Wrote: Man is a veritable marketing genius but I hate a lot of the message he puts into the world. It's no coincidence that Andrew Tate appeared at the time that he did with the message that he did. Young men around the world are desperate for a role model to cling to, and suddenly he arrives with a firm belief on 'how to be a man' and in particular started espousing this message on the platform where he could reach most people that would latch onto the ideals he is sharing, Twitch. And the tough part is I agree with a lot of his messaging on how to handle the personal aspects of life as he pretty much just copied and pasted everything every stoic has ever said, but his messaging totally goes off the rails when he discusses how to interact with literally any other person in your life, man or woman.-snip-
No worries, happy to discuss a bit. And I agree that a lot of his message on self confidence, improvement and respect is great and is generally the part I agree with. However my issue with it comes from how he handles his relationships with other people and the narrative he will push along with his advice. In his message, relationships seem to be entirely goal oriented. Friendships seem to be purely for the purpose of business/social standing and dating is purely for the purpose of having a hot side piece. He seems to hold relationships with family in high regard which I respect, but how much of that is because of cultures he knows he will totally lose if he doesn't hold that perspective I'm not sure.
Using this little speech he gave as an example of what I mean (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umceag-_tCE), the video starts off as something I totally agreed with that during a breakup you should focus on self improvement, and that you should avoid thinking about them which is great advice for someone going through a breakup. However towards the end the video he flips it and he says the whole reason for going to the gym to get jacked after a breakup isn't to help you process your emotions and feel better about yourself, but simply to make them regret leaving you so you get the satisfaction of revenge and make them want you back. He then continues that after a breakup your ex will instantly become the town piece 'partying on yachts' and 'fucking 5 people' which is definitely not the case in majority of instances, pushing a narrative on young people about relationships perhaps before they've even had a relationship before. It's almost like he always begins with wholesome stoic advice, but can't help but make it for all the wrong reasons.
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2023, 07:37 PM by Nyx.)