RE: How do I get my VPN-daemon to run in the background? 05-05-2021, 05:29 PM
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(05-05-2021, 04:08 PM)poi$on ivy Wrote:(05-05-2021, 10:46 AM)Equinox Wrote:(05-05-2021, 09:43 AM)poi$on ivy Wrote: Should I install AUR? I read that its sometimes causes errors in the system and some people dont use it anymore, but if you think its fine then I'll trust it. Can I use the wireguard file instead of openvpn? Should I use 'sudo yay -S mullvadvpn?' Or what is the command for downloading it?
That’s a more nuanced question than I can answer for you.
The reason people don’t like using the arch user repository is because there’s no real standard of work quality there. In an ideal world, your package manager has a defined set of instructions that would install a package to your computer that is replicable and standardized. This is what pacman for Arch users, apt for Debian users, xbps for void users, etc. is attempting to accomplish.
The AUR doesn’t have any standardization, nor does it have any quality checking. There’s no official maintainer who can say that a package build for an AUR package is of any quality. That’s it’s biggest downfall.
That being the case though, you have to decide for yourself if you want an AUR package manager. Do you want a package manager that just installs package, even if you don’t know where those packages are going or how it affects your system? In most cases, you probably don’t. But in the advent of convenience, maybe you do.
If I had to say, I would say yes, you should install an AUR package manager. That being said though, my next suggestion is to use it frugally. It’s better than just cloning a git repository in that it’s actually managed, and can easily be uninstalled or modified. But using it too much can be detrimental in that if your file system may at some point become cluttered and disorganized.
As for the wireguard file, you may absolutely use wireguard instead of openvpn. Mullvad encouraged that, actually. You’re not bound by openvpn in the slightest.
And yes, the package name in the AUR is mullvad. As a bit of a protip, you shouldn’t use sudo in conjunction with an AUR package manager. Again, it’s not standardized in any way. That can open you up to privilege escalation (you don’t know what commands are being executed by the package build). AUR package managers use a fakeroot to build packages and will call sudo when appropriate so you’re not vulnerable to such attacks.
Okay. To begin with, I appreciate your full-length answer, but also your mature way of dealing with me after our fall-out. You dont really seem to hold any greviances against me, even though I almost made an attempt of character-assassinating you. The reason I did that was because I felt like other people, but not you, had been picking on me, so I used you as a means to an end. But you seem to think that you had done something to me, no. You were a mere victim of this cruelty. But this isnt me trying to roleplay with you or anything, its a bit off-topic, but Im saying it just to sort things out between us. I see myself as a good person, a classic, and a peacekeeper. But I dont want to end up as miso. Enough of that.
Yes, your way of putting it with AUR and mullvad was a bit blunt, but very good. I think thats the way you want it to be. You described it very clearly, and now I know why there have been such issues with installing it. The reason I didnt want to use AUR was because of some dependency issues, and because it's been known to cause some issues. But if I can install mullvad with it, Im gonna give it a try.
Do I just have to do:
Code:sudo pacman -S aur
And then:
?Code:yay -S mullvad
I can assure that I have alot to learn, Im very humble about my skills with Arch. I dont know anything, almost, hahaBut I dont have that much expectations on myself either. I love to learn more, and I appreciate your help.
Also, the Arch repository, is that like a repository that you dont use with pacman? Because I dont even think Ive even used it? Or is it with pacman? Apreciate your response.
To install Yay, you'll have to run these commands to get it installed. Yay isn't in the official repos, so you'll have to git clone it. Use "sudo" or "doas" when necessary
Code:
git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/yay.git
cd yay
makepkg -si
yay -S mullvad