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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #21
(03-21-2019, 09:42 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: 1. python isn't a language, it's a tool. It should be used as such
Correct, and given It requires user Input by the tool's operator, It should be applied effectively by the user per se.

Quote:A bad mechanic blames his tools
This Is not the case with python- that Is the tool and It's operator/user Is to blame for any Issues experienced.
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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #22
(01-07-2019, 12:44 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: Python was designed to be easy to understand and fun to use (its name came from Monty Python). Python has gained popularity for being a beginner-friendly language, and it has replaced Java as the most popular introductory language at Top U.S. Universities.

~Easy to Understand~

Being a very high level language, Python reads like English, which takes a lot of syntax-learning stress off coding beginners. Python handles a lot of complexity for you, so it is very beginner-friendly in that it allows beginners to focus on learning programming concepts and not have to worry about too much details.

~VERY Flexible~

As a dynamically typed language, Python is really flexible. This means there are no hard rules on how to build features, and you'll have more flexibility solving problems using different methods (though the Python philosophy encourages using the obvious way to solve things). Furthermore, Python is also more forgiving of errors, so you'll still be able to compile and run your program until you hit the problematic part.

At meetups, you can generally network and learn from fellow developers. Meetups often offer mentorship to those who want it as well. There are 1300+ Python groups on Meetup.com, totaling 608k+ members. Thus, in terms of programming languages, Python is the 3rd largest community.
4th Most-Used Language at GitHub

The more useful projects there are, the more likely someone has already built a function you need and built it well, which will greatly speed up your development process.Over 950 Python projects have over 500 stars.

Python is also known to have an abundance of libraries that assist with data analysis and scientific computing. In addition, PyGames is a neat game engine to build games with if you want to make simple games.

~Great Job Skill~
On Angel List, Python is the 2nd most demanded skill and also the skill with the highest average salary offered.
With the rise of big data, Python developers are in demand as data scientists, especially since Python can be easily integrated into web applications to carry out tasks that require machine learning.

~It's On The Rise~
According to the TIOBE index, Python is the 4th most popular programming language out of 100

With the rise of Ruby on Rails and more recently Node.js, Python's usage as the main prototyping language for backend web development has diminished somewhat, especially since it has a fragmented MVC ecosystem. However, with big data becoming more and more important, Python has become a skill that is more in demand than ever, especially it can be integrated into web applications.

As an open source project, Python is actively worked on with a moderate update cycle, pushing out new versions every year or so to make sure it remains relevant.

A programming language's ability to stay relevant also depends on whether the language is getting new blood. In terms of search volume for anyone interested in learning Python, it has skyrocketed to the 1st place when compared to other languages.

Overall I think Python is definitely the best programming language ever.

Yeah, right
One of the most easiest language to learn

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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #23
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 06:25 PM)tranquil Wrote: python is good but very slow
if only it wasn't slow as all hell it'd be perfect

You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

1) 99.99% Python being " slower " doesn't really matter. It doesn't affect the speed of your program at all. Good programming is good programming. Don't blame your mistakes on the language your using.

2) With how flexible Python is, you can easily fix it yourself in your program if it truly is making your program slow.

If you want a couple paragraphs explaining in more detail here you go :

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Python-so-p...ng-so-slow

Happy reading !

sorry kiddo but you know not a single thing about who the fuck i am, don't bother getting your panties in a twist cuz i said python is a little bit slow
don't go around assuming shit about people you don't know cuz they'll fuck ya up
bet you've got lots of friends if that's the way you come at people. ;p
(This post was last modified: 04-08-2019, 05:18 AM by tranquil.)
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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #24
(04-08-2019, 05:16 AM)tranquil Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 06:25 PM)tranquil Wrote: python is good but very slow
if only it wasn't slow as all hell it'd be perfect

You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

1) 99.99% Python being " slower " doesn't really matter. It doesn't affect the speed of your program at all. Good programming is good programming. Don't blame your mistakes on the language your using.

2) With how flexible Python is, you can easily fix it yourself in your program if it truly is making your program slow.

If you want a couple paragraphs explaining in more detail here you go :

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Python-so-p...ng-so-slow

Happy reading !

sorry kiddo but you know not a single thing about who the fuck i am, don't bother getting your panties in a twist cuz i said python is a little bit slow
don't go around assuming shit about people you don't know cuz they'll fuck ya up
bet you've got lots of friends if that's the way you come at people. ;p

Let's not start making any personal attacks/commentary. We're not 5 years old. If I see this kind of behavior again I will take action.

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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #25
(04-08-2019, 07:48 PM)Boudica Wrote:
(04-08-2019, 05:16 AM)tranquil Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

1) 99.99% Python being " slower " doesn't really matter. It doesn't affect the speed of your program at all. Good programming is good programming. Don't blame your mistakes on the language your using.

2) With how flexible Python is, you can easily fix it yourself in your program if it truly is making your program slow.

If you want a couple paragraphs explaining in more detail here you go :

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Python-so-p...ng-so-slow

Happy reading !

sorry kiddo but you know not a single thing about who the fuck i am, don't bother getting your panties in a twist cuz i said python is a little bit slow
don't go around assuming shit about people you don't know cuz they'll fuck ya up
bet you've got lots of friends if that's the way you come at people. ;p

Let's not start making any personal attacks/commentary. We're not 5 years old. If I see this kind of behavior again I will take action.

Thank you Moderators & Admins. Hate it when people get mad & personal because they can't prove you wrong logically.

Just doesn't make sense.
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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #26
(04-08-2019, 07:48 PM)Jiggly Wrote:
(04-08-2019, 05:16 AM)tranquil Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote: You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

1) 99.99% Python being " slower " doesn't really matter. It doesn't affect the speed of your program at all. Good programming is good programming. Don't blame your mistakes on the language your using.

2) With how flexible Python is, you can easily fix it yourself in your program if it truly is making your program slow.

If you want a couple paragraphs explaining in more detail here you go :

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Python-so-p...ng-so-slow

Happy reading !

sorry kiddo but you know not a single thing about who the fuck i am, don't bother getting your panties in a twist cuz i said python is a little bit slow
don't go around assuming shit about people you don't know cuz they'll fuck ya up
bet you've got lots of friends if that's the way you come at people. ;p

Let's not start making any personal attacks/commentary. We're not 5 years old. If I see this kind of behavior again I will take action.

yes I agree here. No need for bad language here.
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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #27
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 06:25 PM)tranquil Wrote: python is good but very slow
if only it wasn't slow as all hell it'd be perfect

You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

Wtf?

Python is _inherently_ slow. Even following PEP8/best practices/writing for speed produces slow experiences when comparing Python to compiled languages... Go, C, C++, Nim, etc.

Trilly Reign, you are actually the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. Python has many virtues, but speed is not one of them. Get off the Python fad wagon with saying tranquil not knowing what s/he's talking about and show me some fast code that you've written in Python.

If you can't produce it, then I recommend you take your statements back.

Edit: Also, I'll highlight the epitomized circumstance that criticizes Python's slowness. Google, a long-term advocate of Python, arguably being one of the driving forces behinds Python's historical growth, eventually hired Ken Thompson, Rob Pike and Robert Griesemer (if you don't know who they are, then I highly recommend you do for this discussion) to develop a new programming language so that Google could transition large portions of its tech stack _away_ from slower languages like Python to being faster and concurrent while maintaining similar flexibility to interpreted languages.

The language that was developed is called Go(lang), and it's largely reduced the amount of would-be Python code at Google. Google, despite its evil nature, developed a new language to address the inefficiencies of languages like Python

A little bit of research reduces ignorance.
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2019, 02:08 PM by skeeba. Edit Reason: Adding extra comments )

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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #28
(06-03-2019, 02:02 PM)skeeba Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 08:22 PM)Trilly Reign Wrote:
(02-01-2019, 06:25 PM)tranquil Wrote: python is good but very slow
if only it wasn't slow as all hell it'd be perfect

You obviously don't know how to use Python then. Every Python Programmer that actually knows what he's talking about, would know

Wtf?

Python is _inherently_ slow.  Even following PEP8/best practices/writing for speed produces slow experiences when comparing Python to compiled languages... Go, C, C++, Nim, etc.

Trilly Reign, you are actually the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. Python has many virtues, but speed is not one of them. Get off the Python fad wagon with saying tranquil not knowing what s/he's talking about and show me some fast code that you've written in Python.

If you can't produce it, then I recommend you take your statements back.

Edit: Also, I'll highlight the epitomized circumstance that criticizes Python's slowness. Google, a long-term advocate of Python, arguably being one of the driving forces behinds Python's historical growth, eventually hired Ken Thompson, Rob Pike and Robert Griesemer (if you don't know who they are, then I highly recommend you do for this discussion) to develop a new programming language so that Google could transition large portions of its tech stack _away_ from slower languages like Python to being faster and concurrent while maintaining similar flexibility to interpreted languages.

The language that was developed is called Go(lang), and it's largely reduced the amount of would-be Python code at Google. Google, despite its evil nature, developed a new language to address the inefficiencies of languages like Python

A little bit of research reduces ignorance.

Good points were made. I never learned Python for the reason of how slow it is. Maybe for a beginner, but not as someone who has moved on to more complex code. My first language was Ruby, and now I've moved on to lower level languages like C++. I prefer low level languages over the "easy to understand" thing. Languages like C++ are capable of many more things than Python. And it can work on a hardware level, meaning that it can modify where it's stored in RAM and other things of that nature.

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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #29
(06-03-2019, 05:04 PM)Drako Wrote: Good points were made. I never learned Python for the reason of how slow it is.

Python is not my favourite language, but I like it... Although behind other languages like Ruby, shell, Go, C, etc.

The points you raised about enjoying 'lower' languages are the reasons I love compiled languages. Also, I *love* C naturally, being a big GNU/Linux geek, but C is inherently unsafe and arguably inefficient due to undefined behaviour and unsafe memory management. This is why I love Go, because it combines the best from both sides of the aisle.

Long live compiled languages! Long live Golang!

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RE: Why Python Is The Best! #30
(06-03-2019, 07:48 PM)skeeba Wrote:
(06-03-2019, 05:04 PM)Drako Wrote: Good points were made. I never learned Python for the reason of how slow it is.

Python is not my favourite language, but I like it... Although behind other languages like Ruby, shell, Go, C, etc.

The points you raised about enjoying 'lower' languages are the reasons I love compiled languages. Also, I *love* C naturally, being a big GNU/Linux geek, but C is inherently unsafe and arguably inefficient due to undefined behaviour and unsafe memory management. This is why I love Go, because it combines the best from both sides of the aisle.

Long live compiled languages! Long live Golang!

I did forgot to mention that languages like C can be extremely useful when developing video games. If you used Python, you'd have to go through your whole game to test if you just made a bug, and then figure out you have no idea how to fix the problem. Or you might accidently break the whole game by forgetting to add something like a semi colon, and you'll never know because there's no compiler to identify where the error is coming from. While the code may not work the way you want, at least you don't have to wait for an error to be thrown that stops the whole program. And yeah I also love my compiled languages, but I'm always open to new languages. In the end, no one will ever really know what the best language is. Maybe binary  Evil...

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