(06-22-2016, 02:56 PM)Inton Wrote: (06-22-2016, 01:54 PM)Jebusfathead Wrote: Firstly, psychology and sociology are completely different subjects, sociology studies all about society, yes they do talk a bit about psychology as in social influence, but social psychology focuses on the behaviour and mindset that causes things like obedience, whereas sociology focuses on social interactions and society in a broader range. Like how psychology has biological theories does not mean it talks about biology in such a broader variety than what biology would. You should know this from basic psychology.
You cannot stop contradicting yourself, can you? You stated that the study of social behavior is the same as psychology, or rather that it is "not at all something completely different". Sociology is the study of social behavior. So, this is what you've stated;
Psychology and sociology are two completely different things.
The study of social behavior and psychology aren't two completely different things, rather social behavior is a topic within psychology.
Here is a fact;
- Sociology is the study of social behavior.
At least stay to one opinion.
(06-22-2016, 01:54 PM)Jebusfathead Wrote: You clearly are lying about that Hitler thing, he came up as part of the f scale in social psychology as people who are high on the f scale (stands for fascist scale) are more likely to be obedient to a central figure, and have clear distinctions between poor and rich and their positions in society, like poor should not talk to the rich. You would of learnt this in social psychology if you was investigating why Hitler had such a following.
Exactly what part is lying? That he managed to gain a huge amount of followers from near nothing? That he is a good example of how one man can rally a great deal of people towards one goal using the same means as one use in manipulation? Okay then. You heard it here first guys, Hitler did neither of the things above.
(06-22-2016, 01:54 PM)Jebusfathead Wrote: You don't seem to understand me, the OCR board contains both Oxford and Cambridge as the board committee who set up the exams along with whatever the R stands for (some group of unis or something) and Edexcel, idk who moderates and sets those exams up. But yes, it's easy to explain something simple, it's harder and shows greater knowledge when explained in depth, if it wasn't the why do colleges and universities exsist?
And what is the jobs of educational systems like schools? Oh right, to make certain that you've understood what they are trying to teach you. If you haven't, then the school system has failed its goal as far as you are concerned. There is a reason why great thinkers tend to shun the school system, not to mention that the way say England educates have already proven to be a less effective way of doing it. If you cannot simplify something to its most basic form, then you don't know the subject well enough. Because if you can simplify it, then you are using your own words. If you cannot do that, then you are doing no better than someone who reads directly off a book. Learn to think, not what to think.
(06-22-2016, 01:54 PM)Jebusfathead Wrote: We should all be stuck in primary school explaining addition with what you're saying. Also you would know that in psychology exams there are essay type questions, so explaining simply is not enough for an essay lol.Quote:
And its been proven, time and time again that the current school system in larger parts of the world is ineffective. Someone with a computer can easily come to the same answers as a well educated doctor. (Yes, that specific example has been proven.) And again, if you cannot explain something its its simplest form, then go back and read some more until you can. Because if you can't do that, then you don't know the topic in and out. (As you so claim to do. )
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Articles=/=topics, some articles are on psychology topics, some go on about their own sort of research that may not fall into any specific category.
And that goes to show that you are lying to keep up your own lie, as you just stated that some of said articles explain topics. Not to mention that you've already agreed that sociology is a topic with psychology, twice infact. So you have, again twice, gotten your reply in this thread alone. Now, can you stop with your delusions and snap out of it? You've gotten your answer, more than 10 times already.
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Now, I'd appreciate it if you could stop lying about what you've studied, because it's not only embarrassing for yourself been shown up by someone who actually takes psychology, but it's also wasting my time.
Well if you have studied it, then you might wanna see a shrink. You are either delusional or have a split personality disorder. You can't even keep up with both of your contradicting lies at this point.
Right, ok.
Sociology and psychology ARE NOT THE SAME that much is fact. Social psychology and sociology ARE SIMILAR BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME ok? I think I explained it wrong, let me reiterate, social psychology focuses on an individual's behaviour, which is why it contains things such as Locus of control and the F-scale to measure personality traits etc. However, an individual's behaviour is also impacted by a social group, this is why there is conformity and normative and social influence which are impacted by conformity and group size etc (you can look up more of this by looking at the Jeness study for informative social influence, or the Asch study for normative social influence). Right so that explains social psychology, now for sociology, mind you this might be like 90% correct as I know people who do sociology and tell me about it, but I don't take it so it won't be 100% correct. Sociology attempts to study group dynamics and behaviour, so it's mostly focused on groups of people and how a group's behaviour is caused etc in the same way psychology only looks at the individual. However, a group's behaviour is impacted by individuals, so an individual perspective is also needed. So basically social psychology and sociology are completely different, although they overlap, as obviously individuals impact a group, and a group impacts individuals.
I mean't you are lying about studying Hitler (in psychology terms at least) because you would of learnt about the F-scale and the authoritarian personality, which are key concepts in social psychology and present in Hitler's rise to power. And he did not gain a huge amount of followers from near nothing lol. He did not manipulate them either (debatable but I don't think he did) all he did was state that the treaty of versailles greatly defeated his 'gross deutschland' (idk if spelt right) which stands for 'greater Germany' or something like that idk German. He completely disagreed with it hindering Germany so heavily, as he fought in the first world war, why would he want to come home after seeing his own comrades shot down, to see a Germany with restrictions on the size of the German army, and that they couldn't have a Navy or Air force (can't remember which it was or both, I hate history no judge pls) so it's obvious he would of rose to power, in a Germany where political parties like his after a few years had a military force greater than the entire German nation's military. It's just logical that people would put him in power because of his military background and promise for a better Germany which he kinda did until they lost the war because he put the Jews before the war, but w/e he was a bit of a baka.
Yes the education system is stupid, and yes, explaining something in simple terms shows understanding in the same way you can put it in your own works, we are taught to put things in our own words and not copy pasta the book. But explaining something simply does not mean you have a great understanding of it. For example, maths is to do with addition and subtraction. Sooooo, now i'm a professor of maths? Because that is the basic building block on which all maths is built upon, so with that logic I should have a masters degree in mathematics? Cheers m8.
Lol, I don't think I would need to see a 'shrink' because for some reason, 2 contradicting lies (which I don't see any but w/e) now means I have a personality disorder? Are you sure you studied psychopathology? Just looked up some symptoms of it online [omg that means I must have it (that's just internet banter cause googling stuff makes you think you're literally dying lol)] and it says nothing about if I have 2 contradicting lies that means I have Dissociative Identity Disorder, but w/e you're the one with the God complex who must always be right.