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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #21
(03-20-2013, 05:09 AM)Vitani Wrote: So, lets imagine you're the baby right now, you're somehow able to know that your mother is about to kill you, you're still in the stomach, so you're not in the 'Actual world' but you knew she was going to kill you, how would you feel?

If it's rape, the child shouldn't have to suffer because of another persons mistake, if she can't take care of the child, give it up for adoption.

And think before you decide to get pregnant, instead of getting pregnant, and changing your mind half way through.

Having an abortion isn't killing a baby.
Being dead means there are no brainwaves, usually abortions happen before there are any. ( Brainwaves start at around 26 weeks. )
So therefor, you aren't killing a human.

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #22
Eh, your no.2 caught my eye. The instances where women have been raped and became pregnant are incredibly seldom, so that shouldn't be a reason for abortion to be legal. Although, I do think that if a woman believes she is not ready to raise a child, then she should have the choice to have an abortion.

As odd as this may sound, I think abortions are better than neglecting a child when they are alive.

But... I don't believe abortions should be allowed after a certain amount of time into the pregnancy. For example: within the first 4-5 weeks or so (which is like 3 weeks after conception), I think is enough time to decide whether or not you think you can handle being a mother. This is because after about the 5 week mark, the embryonic period begins. When the baby begins to develop a brain, spinal cord, etc, I don't think abortion should be considered.

Don't get me wrong, I believe abortion to be a last resort sort of option (seeing as if you don't feel you're fit being a mother, you can always put it up for adoption and let a couple who is unable to conceive have a chance at being a family), but I don't think that last resort option should be unavailable to pregnant women.
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 08:28 PM by DrBlowFish.)
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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #23
It's not up to us to decide for someone.
They are well aware of the consequences.
We are able to make our own decisions.

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #24
I don't consider it a person yet it's that simple.
It will never know it may of been born.
It will never know of anything.
Nothing will have changed for the person that could have been.

It's better than growing up neglected, or stuck up for adoption in this world we live in where some family adopts you to collect the benefit money than kicks you out when you're 18.

I'm all for abortion it's not our baby it's the mothers, and no one knows what it's like until you're given the scary thought of needing to raise a child you can't. It's easier to get rid of something that isn't even developed yet. Than giving birth and giving away your kid.


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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #25
So, you're saying if I locked a baby up in a dark bunker underground, he/she had NO knowledge of the outside world, that it would be alright to kill it? I mean, it obviously wouldn't have feelings since it grew up with nothing!

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #26
I noticed that most of the people who are saying that they are Pro-abortion(MOST) are saying that as long as it has no knowledge whatsoever about life, that its ok to kill it.

You guys do understand that it is still a human, and that by killing it, you might have just killed the next Einstein right? Plus the fact that after 1-2 months, it develops the basic human organs to survive, so you truly are KILLING someone.

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #27
And it has a pulse, and a heartbeat, therefor making it LIVING!

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #28
Never once did I say it wasn't living, a plant is living.

The question is, is it really even developed enough to be considered a baby? No. It's not like they'll go in and abort a kid at 7 months in. No they abort it most of the time when it's not even recognizable as a human. It's still developing it's not a living baby, in the flesh it's a sac of fluid with something developing inside.

Now you also claim that just because it's living it makes it not kill-able, you most likely eat something that came from something dying, that was living, a plant, an animal. Using your logic killing a plant is next to murder.


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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #29
(03-23-2013, 05:12 AM)Flashdrive Wrote: Never once did I say it wasn't living, a plant is living.

The question is, is it really even developed enough to be considered a baby? No. It's not like they'll go in and abort a kid at 7 months in. No they abort it most of the time when it's not even recognizable as a human. It's still developing it's not a living baby, in the flesh it's a sac of fluid with something developing inside.

Now you also claim that just because it's living it makes it not kill-able, you most likely eat something that came from something dying, that was living, a plant, an animal. Using your logic killing a plant is next to murder.


True, but when you think about it in a cause/effect manor killing that one plant or multiple plants could kill a person because you just derived someone of Oxygen. And also, Most parents don't decide right away, it can take up to TWO months for the average parent, in which case its already considered a baby.

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RE: Opinion On ~ Abortion #30
(03-23-2013, 05:16 AM)ABC Wrote: True, but when you think about it in a cause/effect manor killing that one plant or multiple plants could kill a person because you just derived someone of Oxygen. And also, Most parents don't decide right away, it can take up to TWO months for the average parent, in which case its already considered a baby.

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The last picture is ruffly a child that has been in the mothers womb for 2 months (8 weeks). Now most places will not allow someone to abort after 12 - 18 weeks of development but I found this interesting post. It's also only 5mm in length.

Quote:Everyone has a different opinion on this. Some people consider a fetus to be a baby from the moment of conception. Others consider the fetus to be a baby roughly 10 days after conception at implantation, where the fertilised egg implants in the lining of the womb. Other consider the fetus to be a baby at around 6 weeks, when there is a visible heart beat. Some consider the fetus to be a baby at around 16 weeks when you can start to feel the first movements. Others don't consider the fetus to be a baby until the abortion time limit has passed, so around 20-24 weeks. Some only consider the fetus to be a baby once he or she is born.

All of the above information is correct but leaves out one crucial medical fact. Which is that of the stages of Human Development. So, in terms of human development an embryo is not a fetus, like a fetus is not a baby, like a baby is not a toddler, like a toddler is not a young adult... etc. Basically if you find the definition of Embryo it is: a developing human from conception to 8 weeks. The definition of Fetus is: a developing human from 8 weeks to birth. Then you enter the neonate, infant, toddler, play age...etc.etc. stages. Those are the Stages Of Human Development. So... when Pro-choice advocates say, "it's not a baby!" They actually are correct. And when Anti-abortion advocates say, "you are killing a developing human being" They are actually correct as well. The unborn humans are in their own stages of human development. And, the fetus is not a baby yet... just like a baby is not a toddler yet... but all humans are in their own stages of human development.

Therefore, I will add this: currently, it is legal to end the life of the developing human when they are in pre-viable developmental stages in utero.

Take it as you will it's not a baby yet, it's a developing human. It's a hunk of flesh still developing it's teeth, liver, and mouth, and brain is not fully formed yet.

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