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RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #11
(09-08-2015, 03:30 PM)dr0ptbl Wrote: looks great bro. when is release?

Expect shortly, I'm still going through ALL of the code to make sure everything is where it needs to be and deleting things I didn't add either on purpose on just double copied on accident.

ETA: This week/weekend


RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #12
Ok I wasn't gonna flame this in hopes that someone else would, but it seems that I'm the only one who knows better and is willing to help you out. I'm sure this response will echo the opinions of anyone who's semi-competent with this kind of stuff.

Anything regarded as a "Hack Pack" is known to be pretty cancerous as they typically contain many outdated and relatively obsolete skid tools. I will provide a few examples of these later based on what you included in the "Features" section.

Secondly, the fact that this is Live CD will render some utilities of this tool useless. If this is supposed to be used for virus removal, many of the tools you included would have limited functionality, as they wouldn't be able to interact with the infected system while it's running (Ex. Using Wireshark to find unwanted connections). Because of this, you'd be better of using something like Kaspersky Rescue Disk or something similar if you insist on using a live CD for virus removal. From an attackers perspective, there are really no downsides to this being a Live CD, however the benefits are limited.

Looking at the list of tools included in the ISO, it's pretty apparent that you just shoved everything in your "hacks" folder into this. As I said earlier, many of these tools are either useless or obsolete and serve no practical use at this point in time.

For example, you included 4 crypters that are not only public, but also outdated. Public crypters like the ones you included prove to be useless around a week or two after they are released, as they are highly abused and it doesn't take malware scanners long to detect their stubs. "AegisCrypter1.6" for example, was released in 2012. There is no way that this tool has any practical use for evading detection. Even if you included the most up to date version (released 4/15), the detection rate would still be too high to make it remotely useful.

Other than tools that are utterly useless, there are also a lot of tools that do pretty much the same exact thing. For example, you have 4 tools that automate simple SQL injection in almost the same fashion, particularly Havij 1.15, SQL Injector, & WebCruiserWVS. Is it really necessary to include all of these? Similarly, you included 4 key loggers and 3 RATs, all of which are more or less the same thing. While it's not necessarily causing any adverse effects (other than adding bloat), I think it would be more productive to focus on providing a few tools that are reliable and work well rather than just throw in a whole bunch of outdated and broken tools that all serve the same purpose.

Finally, lol @ "open source". I see you added an asterisk next to it, so you probably already know what I'm gonna say. The vast majority of the tools you added, which are what the meat of this project is, are not open source. But in all fairness you already knew this and are probably referring to the interface you made when you're talking about open source.

So to conclude, this Live CD hack pack thingy is useless. If you want a Live CD for hacking/penetration testing, Kali, BlackArch, or BlackBox would prove much more effective than this. If you want a Live CD for malware removal, searching "Rescue CD" into google will yield many ISOs that would be much more helpful than this.

Of course, you can spend your time and energy however you'd like. I just thought I would provide a more realistic view on the practicality and usefulness of this project.

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RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #13
(09-08-2015, 10:50 PM)Dyme Wrote: Ok I wasn't gonna flame this in hopes that someone else would, but it seems that I'm the only one who knows better and is willing to help you out. I'm sure this response will echo the opinions of anyone who's semi-competent with this kind of stuff.
Honestly, this is the kind of feedback I need for something like this. Some of these tools I have no background knowledge about and can't test them due to the simple fact that I have no way or knowledge to know if they worked. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to create such a constructive and helpful response. I'll reply to the rest of what you said to the best of my abilities without rambling.


Quote:Anything regarded as a "Hack Pack" is known to be pretty cancerous as they typically contain many outdated and relatively obsolete skid tools. I will provide a few examples of these later based on what you included in the "Features" section.

This is the exact reason I put parenthesis around "hack pack" because I do not consider it this. A hack pack to me is fully blackhat built with malicious purposes and if someone wanted to, they could use most of these tools in a malicious way. I will not argue that. However, not all of these tools could be counted as this so I hesitated to call it a "hack pack". It was more or less; lack of better words.

Quote:Secondly, the fact that this is Live CD will render some utilities of this tool useless.

I don't think its obvious enough and thats my fault, the only "live boot" portion of this whole project is Konboot which as most of you know, disables a few files which allows the current user to access any machine (this version is windows only) without proper credentials. Everything else is either a portable or full copy and trying to boot these programs wouldn't be viable regardless.

Quote: If this is supposed to be used for virus removal, many of the tools you included would have limited functionality

I assume you are talking about if they are used for booting. Refer to statement above. If you're not, continue reading.

The few programs on here that are specific in cleaning or curing the PC have been testing on my PC (which may I add, I do not use virus protection and these tools didn't seem to work at all, until I went and downloaded some adware purposely) their functionality was apparent then and proved to me that those cleaning tools properly work as their attended purpose.

Quote:Because of this, you'd be better of using something like Kaspersky Rescue Disk or something similar if you insist on using a live CD for virus removal.

Realized you're referring to a cold boot virus scanning utility and that is not what this is.

Quote: From an attackers perspective, there are really no downsides to this being a Live CD, however the benefits are limited.
  1. Konboot
  2. Install RAT/Miner/Anything you want really with administrative purposes.

The only downfall I see is that you have to be on that PC itself and not over an internet connection would someone could still do with these tools with remote desktop (assuming that PC is on the network and someone isn't using it at the time being)


Quote:Looking at the list of tools included in the ISO, it's pretty apparent that you just shoved everything in your "hacks" folder into this. As I said earlier, many of these tools are either useless or obsolete and serve no practical use at this point in time.

You wouldn't be completely wrong in this sense, however, most of these tools that are included are things I've tried on myself or other computers numerous times to ensure their accountability and verify they do work. I have a lot more tools that could of been added but I left out due to their usability/[insert random reason].

If I didn't trust running it on MY PC, I wouldn't let others use it either.

Quote:For example, you included 4 crypters that are not only public, but also outdated. Public crypters like the ones you included prove to be useless around a week or two after they are released, as they are highly abused and it doesn't take malware scanners long to detect their stubs. "AegisCrypter1.6" for example, was released in 2012. There is no way that this tool has any practical use for evading detection. Even if you included the most up to date version (released 4/15), the detection rate would still be too high to make it remotely useful.

I cannot type out my excitement when I read this. I'd be happy to remove them since these were some of the few things I didn't or couldn't test. I have no reason to encrypt a file or whatever those things actually do.. My best guess after opening them was that it encrypted the file and also added details to the file you're trying to encrypt as well as changing the icon. Again, I have no use for that and no real reason to test it. I'll be removing these before the release. Thank you again. Ill be referring to this later.


Quote:Other than tools that are utterly useless, there are also a lot of tools that do pretty much the same exact thing. For example, you have 4 tools that automate simple SQL injection in almost the same fashion, particularly Havij 1.15, SQL Injector, & WebCruiserWVS. Is it really necessary to include all of these? Similarly, you included 4 key loggers and 3 RATs, all of which are more or less the same thing. While it's not necessarily causing any adverse effects (other than adding bloat), I think it would be more productive to focus on providing a few tools that are reliable and work well rather than just throw in a whole bunch of outdated and broken tools that all serve the same purpose.

Let me try to explain this the way I see it, and before I do that, I've been wanting to remove the SQL injection because I, for one, have no experience in that field. Nor have a place to test these tools out. Figured someone would say something about it eventually and they would be removed without second thought. Glad someone caught it before the release. Thanks again. Moving on..

Why do people choose to use gmail? Is it because its better than yahoo? AIM? (any other SMTP service) Is it because its more secure? Maybe more feature rich? Possibly easier to use? Its opinionated. I prefer gmail; and most of here probably do too. Its the user's choice and that right there, choice, is what people like. The freedom of being able to choose between options rather being locked or tied down to one service is the freedom of it. Do they all achieve the same thing? Yes, all of those SMTP services send and receive emails. Its up to their user's to decide if they wish to use them.

Create your own analogy with this. What it comes down to is choices and 2 working keyloggers are better than 1, working keylogger in the sense of having that freedom to choose. I'm rambling but I hope I've gotten the point across. Once I find the creme de la creme of working keyloggers, I'll remove a few that seem outdated or just unappealing.


Quote:Finally, lol @ "open source". I see you added an asterisk next to it, so you probably already know what I'm gonna say. The vast majority of the tools you added, which are what the meat of this project is, are not open source. But in all fairness you already knew this and are probably referring to the interface you made when you're talking about open source.

You're right and wrong about this and that isn't your fault. I did a bad job, in fact, I failed to explain the asterisk. When a better time than now?

The "open source*" is referring to this project as a whole, not any of the programs as I do not have the sources for all of these kinds of things. The group or community giving this feedback (just like Dyme did) is what creates this to be open source in the sense that the community can help add and remove things based on the general opinion of the users, and me. I realize that is borderline not full open source. This program is honestly nothing special but its the concept and full aspect of it rather than just hackyrie by itself or a few programs that have been leached on mega-fuck-tons of boards. Its the updating feature that helps keeps your tools up to date. Its the simplicity of it. Rather than having a lot of random tools, why not have 1, keep them all together, and have the users/community decide what needs updated, what needs removed, and what needs added.

Quote:So to conclude, this Live CD hack pack thingy is useless. If you want a Live CD for hacking/penetration testing, Kali, BlackArch, or BlackBox would prove much more effective than this.

I already have a Khali based version of this in the making. Its on pause until this is fully released. Those will be more fun to play around on. Especially since Khali 2 was released? or was it just announced? Nonetheless, a Khali version is set to be out but under an entire different project name.

Quote: If you want a Live CD for malware removal, searching "Rescue CD" into google will yield many ISOs that would be much more helpful than this.

I have done this. Many of times. Oh, how I tried sourcing many tools from those "Rescue CDs" and most of them, brought me nothing shy of special. Hiren's proved somewhat useful and that concept is really where this was from but as a program, not a bootable image. I hope that makes sense.


Quote:Of course, you can spend your time and energy however you'd like. I just thought I would provide a more realistic view on the practicality and usefulness of this project.

Once again, I appreciate your energy and time spent writing this criticism to the project. I also hope this clears up a few points and problems that other users/members may see within this. Looking forward to your reply or perhaps another.


Mac Wrote:Bitches stay hating, this is claymation, fucked up, get away, thats a vacation

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RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #14
@Dyme you know I love you mate but you need to calm your titties on this one, it's just a freakin :hacking tool collection" provided by someone that isn't "much" familiar with hacking apparently (op, you sad it in your last post) which is totally normal, don't get me wrong because I like it when you go all serious on someone since all you do is fucking troll, you bitch, but this ain't the place to do it, there's a lot of other threads in here about cats, swords, ninjas and shit so you might wanna fuck with those posters... Look at the bright side damn it, this section is back to life! Lol.


RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #15
(09-09-2015, 02:43 AM)dotcppfile Wrote: @Dyme you know I love you mate but you need to calm your titties on this one, it's just a freakin :hacking tool collection" provided by someone that isn't "much" familiar with hacking apparently (op, you sad it in your last post) which is totally normal, don't get me wrong because I like it when you go all serious on someone since all you do is fucking troll, you bitch, but this ain't the place to do it, there's a lot of other threads in here about cats, swords, ninjas and shit so you might wanna fuck with those posters... Look at the bright side damn it, this section is back to life! Lol.

Yeah lmao tell me about it idk why I did either... just missing actually speaking in a non sarcastic tone I guess.

@XFL if you wanna talk about this further I'd prefer to do it over a skype call or something so that I don't have to type shit out and can work on other things. PM me if interested.

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RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #16
Will do! Add me awhile. Ill message and call you on skype tonight.


RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #17
(09-09-2015, 02:43 AM)dotcppfile Wrote: @Dyme you know I love you mate but you need to calm your titties on this one, it's just a freakin :hacking tool collection" provided by someone that isn't "much" familiar with hacking apparently (op, you sad it in your last post) which is totally normal, don't get me wrong because I like it when you go all serious on someone since all you do is fucking troll, you bitch, but this ain't the place to do it, there's a lot of other threads in here about cats, swords, ninjas and shit so you might wanna fuck with those posters... Look at the bright side damn it, this section is back to life! Lol.

I wish he put that much dedication into something useful. [emoji14]
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RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #18
(09-09-2015, 03:41 AM)Oni Wrote: I wish he put that much dedication into something useful. [emoji14]

Lol you don't know what I do... I don't post everything I create on github.


RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #19
Hey, cmon guys. I respect his thoughts and views on the concept itself and it actually helps.

The world isn't full of sun flowers and rainbows all the time.


RE: [PREVIEW] Valhacka [V1] #20
(09-09-2015, 04:07 AM)Dyme Wrote: Lol you don't know what I do... I don't post everything I create on github.

Oh shit, we got a badass over here...

(09-09-2015, 04:17 AM)XFL Wrote: Hey, cmon guys. I respect his thoughts and views on the concept itself and it actually helps.

The world isn't full of sun flowers and rainbows all the time.

lmao, I'm starting to like you already mate.
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2015, 04:18 AM by dotcppfile.)








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