[Lain]

I'd like to point out that I was there in the chat when this incident happened. It was far from a joke or something funny. I was tricked by not only him but another member on this forum that in my opinion should be banned as well, into watching something awful. I hope that I don't come off as overly sensitive when I say that what I saw was devastating to me. Even though this is the internet, which has become a cesspool of the lowest forms of life, this is a serious issue that needs to be taken seriously by anyone that wants the right to be called and treated like a human being. I've always tried to look at people that are attracted to children as people who aren't bad but seriously need help. However when one of these people go as far as to actually touch a child in that way then in my eyes they have crossed the line into becoming a monster. I don't know what category Bluescreen belongs in but with what I experienced yesterday it would not be hard to look at him and the other member as monsters. I do not agree that judging someone who is attracted to children is the same as homophobia, unless you are speaking of someone who is attracted to children but wants help for this condition and does not touch children or watch child porn. Bluescreen is not that type of person. He enjoyed what he was doing very much and he also enjoyed getting me involved in his disgusting "hobby". We need to remember that no matter if someone is attracted to children or not...children are innocents, no ands, ifs, or buts. Adults have NO RIGHT to spill their problems or sick desires into the realm of innocent children and it should never be tolerated. Sorry for ranting, but I really felt that it was important to get this out, and thank you for taking the time to read all this.

Out of sheer curiosity, who is the other member?

[Boudica]

I agree with most of what Purphexyon was saying.

I think that pedophiles did not choose to like what they like. However, if they act on it and get an innocent child involved, the line is crossed. In terms of judging someone on it - well a gay person isn't defined by being gay. They have their own personality. I think it is the same for pedophiles. However, their personality can be defined by the actions they choose to make. To actually act and go and do something about their desires is very immoral and obviously illegal. Doing nothing about their desires and being unable to help what they like is not their fault. I don't think it's something that can be "fixed" or "cured". I hope pedophiles try to do the right thing. As much as this blusecreen stuff disturbs me... It's horrible to think he's probably not the worst out there.

[Adorapuff]

I think that because it is the internet, we sometimes forget that in every joke, there is an element of a joke, meaning that when Bluescreen joked about rape, and abuse, and child porn, he was only joking to an extant. Anyone who could even think like that is a TERRIBLE person. I have a 5 year old sister, so I have every right to be objective, and I can not even begin to forgive myself for laughing at his jokes. He crossed the line. Posting CP and disguising it is well terrible for lack of a better word.

[w00t]

I still don't get why everyone has to jump on the hate train. I don't agree with his views or his actions, that doesn't make him intrinsically evil, it makes him not my kind of person. This is how bigotry starts.

[Satan]

My honest opinion, you can't equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
There is a reason homosexuality is a -sexuality, and pedophilia is a -philia.
Pedophilia shouldn't be considered a sexuality, its closer to a fetish. Its even defined as a psychiatric disorder, and I believe that's a right definition.
Pedophilia isn't about what gender you are interested in sexually, its about the age.
Being attracted to someone who isn't even sexually, mentally, or emotionally mature is wrong, to me.
We have laws against it for a reason, doing what pedophiles do to young children has a lasting, usually permanent negative mental effect on their victims.

[Purphexyon]

Out of sheer curiosity, who is the other member?

As much as I would like to call out the other member I'm not certain if it's appropriate to do so at this time.

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I agree with most of what Purphexyon was saying.

I think that pedophiles did not choose to like what they like. However, if they act on it and get an innocent child involved, the line is crossed. In terms of judging someone on it - well a gay person isn't defined by being gay. They have their own personality. I think it is the same for pedophiles. However, their personality can be defined by the actions they choose to make. To actually act and go and do something about their desires is very immoral and obviously illegal. Doing nothing about their desires and being unable to help what they like is not their fault. I don't think it's something that can be "fixed" or "cured". I hope pedophiles try to do the right thing. As much as this blusecreen stuff disturbs me... It's horrible to think he's probably not the worst out there.

This is basically what I was saying, but I'm curious as to what you mean by you hope that pedophiles do the right thing. I mean I agree that they can't help what they like so it probably cant be "fixed/cured" but I'm not really sure what else to suggest, unless they choose to live a life of celibacy, which although is a very noble decision, it is also highly unlikely. Im afraid Im at a loss

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I still don't get why everyone has to jump on the hate train. I don't agree with his views or his actions, that doesn't make him intrinsically evil, it makes him not my kind of person. This is how bigotry starts.

I'm not getting on the hate train...he made me a part of his sick fantasy and I feel violated by it. I'm just expressing my feelings about the situation.

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My honest opinion, you can't equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
There is a reason homosexuality is a -sexuality, and pedophilia is a -philia.
Pedophilia shouldn't be considered a sexuality, its closer to a fetish. Its even defined as a psychiatric disorder, and I believe that's a right definition.
Pedophilia isn't about what gender you are interested in sexually, its about the age.
Being attracted to someone who isn't even sexually, mentally, or emotionally mature is wrong, to me.
We have laws against it for a reason, doing what pedophiles do to young children has a lasting, usually permanent negative mental effect on their victims.

I pretty much agree, but then again I don't know enough to determine for sure where the line is between a sexual desire that can't be helped and what is a fetish, but I do think you make a great point.

[w00t]

My honest opinion, you can't equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
There is a reason homosexuality is a -sexuality, and pedophilia is a -philia.
Pedophilia shouldn't be considered a sexuality, its closer to a fetish. Its even defined as a psychiatric disorder, and I believe that's a right definition.
Pedophilia isn't about what gender you are interested in sexually, its about the age.
Being attracted to someone who isn't even sexually, mentally, or emotionally mature is wrong, to me.
We have laws against it for a reason, doing what pedophiles do to young children has a lasting, usually permanent negative mental effect on their victims.

Homosexuality was( and is ) considered a mental disorder for many years.

How is being attracted to a different age different then your sexuality? I guarantee you have a type that has an age component, and surely a maturity component.

[Satan]

Homosexuality was( and is ) considered a mental disorder for many years.

How is being attracted to a different age different then your sexuality? I guarantee you have a type that has an age component, and surely a maturity component.

Sexuality as referenced here is used in place of sexual orientation (homosexuality, contrasted from heterosexuality and bisexuality), which deals with genders.
If you're going to consider pedophilia, which is as it says, a philia, "an abnormal liking for or tendency towards a given thing" as that is defined, a orientation, then you must also include every single other philia in the world as a orientation.

"Research has shown that homosexuality is an example of a normal and natural variation in human sexuality and is not in and of itself a source of negative psychological effects"

Homosexuality is not considered a mental disorder except by those who hold firm to that belief ignoring research into its cause.
It causes no more harm than a heterosexual relationship given the same scenario and setting.
You cannot say the same about pedophilia. Pedophilia creates a victim, and is shown by research to have a negative effect in general on both the victim and the abuser.

EDIT:
Per your "homosexuality was (and is) considered a mental disorder" comment, Can you post a statement supporting that from a reputable source, the American Psychological Association says otherwise.
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

While I can't find a online copy of the DSM-V to quote the direct line from (Probably since doing so would possibly be piracy), the American Psychiatric Association is quoted on having fixed the definition in DSM-V from an erroneous one.

"In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a ‘paraphilia,’ not a ‘sexual orientation.’ This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual"

[cr33pyguy]

I will base them on their sexual inclination if it is 100% wrong. Being homosexual is perfectly fine, but when it is about being a pedophile, then there is something wrong. If you met a pedophile, would you want to be friends with him? Like really? No, you won't. He has sex with under-aged children, which in-case you somehow didn't know, is against the law. It is for a reason. It is perfectly alright to be friends with a homosexual, but if you know a pedophile you should report him to the police right away. Anyways, back to my point. Disliking someone who legally likes another person of the same sex and disliking someone because they have sex with under-aged children is two completely different things. And you can't argue that point.

Now, does being homosexual mean you have sex with the same gender? not necessarily.
It means you are sexually attracted towards the same gender. The same way being a pedophile does not mean you have sex with children. And while it is true that child pornography and such is illegal, and morally incorrect, being a pedophile does not require for you to have anything to do with that. A person could be considered being a pedophile for liking seventeen year olds, which I see nothing wrong with.

[Jolly]

This is basically what I was saying, but I'm curious as to what you mean by you hope that pedophiles do the right thing. I mean I agree that they can't help what they like so it probably cant be "fixed/cured" but I'm not really sure what else to suggest, unless they choose to live a life of celibacy, which although is a very noble decision, it is also highly unlikely. Im afraid Im at a loss

I'm quite sure that therapy and hormonal medication can help ''fix'' a person.