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Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Vultra - 06-25-2018
Hello all,
Just got a quick question since, i'm in a rush.
Should I learn x84 & x64 first which isn't an issue or, do I have to learn C before going into that stuff?
thanks,
- Adam
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - mothered - 06-25-2018
C Is certainly advantageous to understand how to write simple programs, prior to moving onto Assembly.
@"phyrrus9" Is the best member to answer this In detail.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - phyrrus9 - 06-25-2018
(06-25-2018, 04:16 AM)mothered Wrote: C Is certainly advantageous to understand how to write simple programs, prior to moving onto Assembly.
@"phyrrus9" Is the best member to answer this In detail.
They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on. I would stay as far away from *86 assembly while you're first learning though. The entire architecture is garbage.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Vultra - 06-25-2018
(06-25-2018, 02:30 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:(06-25-2018, 04:16 AM)mothered Wrote: C Is certainly advantageous to understand how to write simple programs, prior to moving onto Assembly.
@"phyrrus9" Is the best member to answer this In detail.
They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on. I would stay as far away from *86 assembly while you're first learning though. The entire architecture is garbage.
Thanks for the reply.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - mothered - 06-25-2018
(06-25-2018, 02:30 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on.
I wasn't entirely sure whether one (particularly C) takes precedence, hence If anyone would know, It'd be you.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Blink - 06-28-2018
(06-25-2018, 03:43 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-25-2018, 02:30 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on.
I wasn't entirely sure whether one (particularly C) takes precedence, hence If anyone would know, It'd be you.
Late, but I'd personally do something like this:
Basic C or some other simple language -> Basic assembly in a simple architecture -> C -> assembly -> extra languages (Go, Lisp, Lua, Python, C#, whatever)
With basic CPU design somewhere in between the last 3; in this way, you get the full view of how your languages compile/interpret from high level down to hardware
There isn't really a precedence, you'd want to understand each on at least a minimal level
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Vultra - 06-29-2018
(06-28-2018, 11:16 PM)Ender Wrote:(06-25-2018, 03:43 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-25-2018, 02:30 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on.
I wasn't entirely sure whether one (particularly C) takes precedence, hence If anyone would know, It'd be you.
Late, but I'd personally do something like this:
Basic C or some other simple language -> Basic assembly in a simple architecture -> C -> assembly -> extra languages (Go, Lisp, Lua, Python, C#, whatever)
With basic CPU design somewhere in between the last 3; in this way, you get the full view of how your languages compile/interpret from high level down to hardware
There isn't really a precedence, you'd want to understand each on at least a minimal level
Doesn't matter if you replied late. Thanks for the advice.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - mothered - 06-29-2018
(06-28-2018, 11:16 PM)Ender Wrote:(06-25-2018, 03:43 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-25-2018, 02:30 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: They're not mutually exclusive, you can learn both at the same time or later on.
I wasn't entirely sure whether one (particularly C) takes precedence, hence If anyone would know, It'd be you.
Late, but I'd personally do something like this:
Basic C or some other simple language -> Basic assembly in a simple architecture -> C -> assembly -> extra languages (Go, Lisp, Lua, Python, C#, whatever)
With basic CPU design somewhere in between the last 3; in this way, you get the full view of how your languages compile/interpret from high level down to hardware
There isn't really a precedence, you'd want to understand each on at least a minimal level
Well said.
I completely forgot to quote you. In my views, either yourself or phyrrus9 are best/competent In addressing questions of this nature.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Slingshot - 06-29-2018
Learning C will get you into the mindset of programming.
RE: Learn x84 & 64 or, C? - Vultra - 06-29-2018
(06-29-2018, 10:42 AM)Slingshot Wrote: Learning C will get you into the mindset of programming.
I already know a few languages. learning SQL while we speak.