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The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Nagmx - 06-12-2016
The thing with this war against ISIS that can make me grind me teeth is; we're becoming "terrorists" too.
So France was on frontline against ISIS for a while before ISIS bombed Paris. That's seen as terrorism and makes the news. Why isn't it seen as retaliation?
But then France would bomb Syria and no one even notices. Roughly the same amount of people were harmed in Syria as there were in France, innocents too. Why is this seen as retaliation but not terrorism?
And then there were grenades thrown at a mosque in Paris, attacking innocent Muslims. Sure they were training grenades but that still counts as terrorism. Just imagine the terror you'd be in if you were excersising your religion and then getting attacked because of the extremists that give Muslims a bad name?
A point I'm trying to make is, we're just as bad as them. And just because a small minority of Muslims became extremists, doesn't mean 100& of Muslims will attack you.
I'm not supporting terrorism in any shape or form. It's a shitty thing.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Vxn - 06-12-2016
It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Nagmx - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 03:55 PM)Vxn Wrote: It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Vxn - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 03:57 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:55 PM)Vxn Wrote: It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Nagmx - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 03:58 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:57 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:55 PM)Vxn Wrote: It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Vxn - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 03:59 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:58 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:57 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:55 PM)Vxn Wrote: It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
Well, yeah.
But more like of a 'dis-encouraging terrorism' with terrorism
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Nagmx - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 04:00 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:59 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:58 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:57 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:55 PM)Vxn Wrote: It depends on the way you look at it, though what you are saying - everyone is a terrorist?
France "bombs" them to scare ("terror") the terrorists away, it's to prevent it.
ISIS, they just fucking go at it for absolutely no reason; France doesn't just quickdrop everyone they see for no reason - they do it for a purpose.
France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
Well, yeah.
But more like of a 'dis-encouraging terrorism' with terrorism
Okay so what about the innocent people killed in Syria?
Sure you could go and say "ISIS killed us too".
Yeah true, but there are people in Syria that are no way in hell affiliated with ISIS.
No one batters an eyelid about them. Everyone thinks "Syria is full of muslims and they're terrorists, kill them all". Again, small minority of Muslins are extremists. Everyone else was just killed for being Muslim and that religion has been destroyed because of ISIS.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Vxn - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 04:06 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:00 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:59 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:58 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:57 PM)Nagmx Wrote: France were on the frontline. They were attacking Syria before ISIS bombed.
I'm not saying everyone's a terrorist, I'm just saying that we're acting like them. Shit, we wouldn't name ourselves anything bad.
Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
Well, yeah.
But more like of a 'dis-encouraging terrorism' with terrorism
Okay so what about the innocent people killed in Syria?
Sure you could go and say "ISIS killed us too".
Yeah true, but there are people in Syria that are no way in hell affiliated with ISIS.
No one batters an eyelid about them. Everyone thinks "Syria is full of muslims and they're terrorists, kill them all". Again, small minority of Muslins are extremists. Everyone else was just killed for being Muslim and that religion has been destroyed because of ISIS.
I don't want to say this, but for the sake of this conversation: There was a high chance that ISIS could've went to Syria, picked them up and trained them to be part of this terrorism group.
ugh.
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Nagmx - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 04:08 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:06 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:00 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:59 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:58 PM)Vxn Wrote: Yeah, we're acting like them to prevent them.
So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
Well, yeah.
But more like of a 'dis-encouraging terrorism' with terrorism
Okay so what about the innocent people killed in Syria?
Sure you could go and say "ISIS killed us too".
Yeah true, but there are people in Syria that are no way in hell affiliated with ISIS.
No one batters an eyelid about them. Everyone thinks "Syria is full of muslims and they're terrorists, kill them all". Again, small minority of Muslins are extremists. Everyone else was just killed for being Muslim and that religion has been destroyed because of ISIS.
I don't want to say this, but for the sake of this conversation: There was a high chance that ISIS could've went to Syria, picked them up and trained them to be part of this terrorism group.
ugh.
You mean, kidnapped, assaulted, raped, gave kids guns and unwillingly forced them?
RE: The whole shitstorm with ISIS. - Vxn - 06-12-2016
(06-12-2016, 04:12 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:08 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:06 PM)Nagmx Wrote:(06-12-2016, 04:00 PM)Vxn Wrote:(06-12-2016, 03:59 PM)Nagmx Wrote: So essentially fighting terrorism with terrorism?
My initial point.
Well, yeah.
But more like of a 'dis-encouraging terrorism' with terrorism
Okay so what about the innocent people killed in Syria?
Sure you could go and say "ISIS killed us too".
Yeah true, but there are people in Syria that are no way in hell affiliated with ISIS.
No one batters an eyelid about them. Everyone thinks "Syria is full of muslims and they're terrorists, kill them all". Again, small minority of Muslins are extremists. Everyone else was just killed for being Muslim and that religion has been destroyed because of ISIS.
I don't want to say this, but for the sake of this conversation: There was a high chance that ISIS could've went to Syria, picked them up and trained them to be part of this terrorism group.
ugh.
You mean, kidnapped, assaulted, raped, gave kids guns and unwillingly forced them?
I can't man, sorry.
This is too offensive for me and probably you too.
Good luck.