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China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Oni - 06-23-2016
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A new report claims that China is still engaged in the widespread and systematic harvesting of organs from prisoners, and says that people whose views conflict with the ruling Chinese Communist Party are being murdered for their organs.
The report -- by former Canadian lawmaker David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas, and journalist Ethan Gutmann -- collates publicly reported figures from hospitals across China to show what they claim is a massive discrepancy between official figures for the number of transplants carried out throughout the country.
They blame the Chinese government, the Communist Party, the health system, doctors and hospitals for being complicit.
"The (Communist Party) says the total number of legal transplants is about 10,000 per year. But we can easily surpass the official Chinese figure just by looking at the two or three biggest hospitals," Matas said in a statement.
The report estimates that 60,000 to 100,000 organs are transplanted each year in Chinese hospitals.
According to the report, that gap is made up of executed prisoners, many of them prisoners of conscience locked up for their religious or political beliefs. China does not report its total number of executions, which it regards as a secret.
The report's findings stand in stark contrast to Beijing's claim that, since the beginning of 2015, China has moved from almost completely relying on organs from prisoners to the "largest voluntary organ donation system in Asia."
The National Health and Family Planning Commission, which oversees organ donations in China, did not respond to a request for comment for this piece.It'd be one thing if this were done to sickos for murder and whatnot, but it seems they are taking organs from prisoners "locked up for their religious or political beliefs". Not a crazy surprise, since it's China. Enemies of the state now have the threat of having their organs harvested. I don't even think this would be ethical for murderers, much less enemies of the state.
Read More: CNN
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Despised - 06-23-2016
It's a messed up thing to do, regardless of the prisoner's committed crime(s).
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - mothered - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 08:27 AM)Oni Wrote: It'd be one thing if this were done to sickos for murder and whatnot,
This I agree with.
There may well be prisoners who've been wrongly Imprisoned, and on those grounds, I don't believe It's the right thing to do. Who knows how long this has been In effect.
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - pvnk - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Ruptured Wrote: It's a messed up thing to do, regardless of the prisoner's committed crime(s).
What if the criminal has been harvesting other people's organs?
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Despised - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 03:31 PM)Primitive Wrote:You leave them to rot in prison or straight up hand out the death penalty.(06-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Ruptured Wrote: It's a messed up thing to do, regardless of the prisoner's committed crime(s).
What if the criminal has been harvesting other people's organs?
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - pvnk - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 03:37 PM)Ruptured Wrote:(06-23-2016, 03:31 PM)Primitive Wrote:You leave them to rot in prison or straight up hand out the death penalty.(06-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Ruptured Wrote: It's a messed up thing to do, regardless of the prisoner's committed crime(s).
What if the criminal has been harvesting other people's organs?
What a waste of organs.
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Prince Tony - 06-23-2016
This is nothing new with China. I think harvesting organs should only be from high-level prisoners. People that are locked up for murder, rape, and serious crimes. China has a terrible legal system compared to the US and other parts of the world where you can simply get sentenced to death or life for being a journalist.
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Wildfire - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 03:37 PM)Ruptured Wrote:(06-23-2016, 03:31 PM)Primitive Wrote:You leave them to rot in prison or straight up hand out the death penalty.(06-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Ruptured Wrote: It's a messed up thing to do, regardless of the prisoner's committed crime(s).
What if the criminal has been harvesting other people's organs?
I prefer a different approach. Harvest organs if you plan to kill them, but not otherwise. This is how it is done in the U.S. (albeit, voluntarily, but a dead man cannot say no, walking or otherwise) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_donation_in_the_United_States_prison_population#Death_Row_Inmates
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Despised - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 03:44 PM)Primitive Wrote:You should totally donate me your organs sometime, just cause.(06-23-2016, 03:37 PM)Ruptured Wrote:(06-23-2016, 03:31 PM)Primitive Wrote: What if the criminal has been harvesting other people's organs?You leave them to rot in prison or straight up hand out the death penalty.
What a waste of organs.
RE: China Harvesting Organs from Prisoners - Wildfire - 06-23-2016
(06-23-2016, 11:17 PM)Ruptured Wrote:(06-23-2016, 03:44 PM)Primitive Wrote:You should totally donate me your organs sometime, just cause.(06-23-2016, 03:37 PM)Ruptured Wrote: You leave them to rot in prison or straight up hand out the death penalty.
What a waste of organs.
But that's not justified. Yes, China is not the best example of human rights, but they don't just methodically and robotically harvest organs. Don't you think they'd pick the worst of their crops first?