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Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

People will tell you suicide is wrong, but I am not so sure.


One of Alan Watts more controversial talks.
Do you want to continue to play the game?


RE: Suicide - Feat - 12-29-2013

If you ask me suicide is an individuals choice and sometimes the best one.


RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 03:58 AM)ABC Wrote: If you ask me suicide is an individuals choice and sometimes the best one.

Agreed.
Why should we be forced to be apart of society?


RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 04:15 AM)Gun Wrote: Suicide is some thing that comes due to a chemical imbalance in your brain that can be worse or easier to deal with based on genetics it is NEVER the right choice but some people cannot handle the strain from daily life. do not look down on them as it is something that is hard to deal with and some one who thinks about killing them self is in deep and to recover take a tremendous amount of will power.

"Being forced to be apart of society" sounds like you are saying suicide is normal and right.

Why should it be wrong?

You are born into this world and you are forced to follow rules and listen to people who say what is right and wrong. People will judge you and sway your decisions greatly.

Also where is the sources for this chemical imbalance?

I am not suicidal, but sometimes I think if I didnt want to help out people
who are being controlled I would probably commit suicide.
It would take a lot of guts, but I dont see a point in playing this game.

I hate being a deep thinker, but I love it.

Also did you even bother to watch the video


RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 04:24 AM)Gun Wrote: A source for this? it is common knowledge. Also no one is forcing you to stay in your warm home with food and vast amounts of water planes leave to Africa and south america every day you can easily live out there with no rules. You are not being controlled unless you live in cuba or something. see my point?

since you insist here are your sources https://www.google.com/#q=depression+definition+chemical+imbalance&safe=off

Another point to back my statement up on it being a chemical imbalance. If you ever get the will power to leave "the game" do it in a bucket of water dont lock your self under the water just try and keep your head under there until you die try it. YOU CAN NOT. your body will NOt let you it is a reflex. the reflex to stay alive your body is full of systems to keep you from death the best way it can it is UN NATURAL to want to commit suicide.

Common knowledge you sent me a google link which had depression in it.
Since when am I talking about depression?

In africa you are still apart of the game, you cannot be alone and you will have people dictating what you do no matter where you go.
Plus you still need money to get to africa and you will have to comply to the social norms set by the people around you.

Also I do not think you are getting the point. Do you believe in evolution?
When we created language it is said that our physical evolution stopped and our cultural evolution began.
We evolved to survive, now we are evolved enough to make our own choices.

and your last paragraph is fallacious.
If you try drowning yourself of course you will be choking and are going to want to go up for air. It makes it harder, but not impossible.


RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 05:08 AM)Gun Wrote: Depression leads to suicide no one just commits suicide unless faced with a fatal ultimatum.

Yes i believe in evolution and it is still happening. for example a lot of people now are no longer experiencing wisdom tooth development and are developing narrower jaw lines as we no longer need the huge mollers to smash up hard foods.

let me put it this way in the stone ages they would barter and that is a form of currency if you want to use some one else s shit you need to pay for it. is any one stopping you from picking up scraps off the side of the road that people toss out and build yourself an airplane or a means to exit here NO.

you are missing the big picture you pay for services it is not like you pay people to be controlled you make and have choices and a wise choice is to make money and leave your country the stupid choice is to go on foot and most likely die as you are so used to being nurtured by society.

your argument is a wall of ignorance and false hope almost as if you are trying to convince your self that suicide is right to make your self feel better.

Look if you are looking for a way out suicide is not the option there are people you can talk to to convince you it is not they way just talk to some one for me. a teacher, a counselor, your parents some one you trust with your life.

Did you even watch the video or read my posts?
Depression may lead to suicide, but why cant you commit suicide if you arent depressed? Like I said, read my posts.

Thats like saying you cant eat if you arent hungry.

So you are saying it is your choice to buy things?
and if you choose to follow society that is smart and if you dont that is dumb?
People likr you are the reason society is so destructive.


RE: Suicide - Suicide - 12-29-2013

I have been to the point of writing out my suicide note and having the loaded gun... I have never really told anyone this but I have tried. I was unsuccessful but that is not the point. I believe it is the persons choice on whether they want to or not.


RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 06:42 AM)Eryn Wrote: I have been to the point of writing out my suicide note and having the loaded gun... I have never really told anyone this but I have tried. I was unsuccessful but that is not the point. I believe it is the persons choice on whether they want to or not.

Did you watch the video.
I agree, whoever is contemplating suicide should watch this.
Fuck whatever everybody else thinks.
Do it for you.


RE: Suicide - Suicide - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 06:44 AM)Singularity Wrote: Did you watch the video.
I agree, whoever is contemplating suicide should watch this.
Fuck whatever everybody else thinks.
Do it for you.

I will have to watch it in the morning. I am not able to right now.

The only thing I really thought about was how my mom would react when she came to wake me up in the morning and she found me dead. I started to cry then and then it all went dark. I hope you do not think I do it for the attention, that is certainly not the case. I just get severely depressed sometimes and it is not good when I am alone.


RE: Suicide - BeastlyHobos - 12-29-2013

(12-29-2013, 06:46 AM)Eryn Wrote: I will have to watch it in the morning. I am not able to right now.

The only thing I really thought about was how my mom would react when she came to wake me up in the morning and she found me dead. I started to cry then and then it all went dark. I hope you do not think I do it for the attention, that is certainly not the case. I just get severely depressed sometimes and it is not good when I am alone.

See I see suicide as almost a selfish act, think about your friends and family. What do you think will happen to them when you just kill yourself(not talking about you eryn) people care about you whether you believe it or not. And people will be devistated if you do commit suicide. Haven't you heard of all the husband that commited suicide and soon after there wife's had no will to live because of it.
To me suicide is an act of selfishness, yes it's your choice but think about how it will affect the ones you love.