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[Removed Thread] - DrangBrang - 11-15-2021

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RE: College is PAIN - Oni - 11-15-2021

Graduated Magna Cum Laude last year. Originally went for Computer Science, finished with a BBA in Management.


RE: College is PAIN - DrangBrang - 11-15-2021

(11-15-2021, 08:12 PM)Oni Wrote: Graduated Magna Cum Laude last year. Originally went for Computer Science, finished with a BBA in Management.

wow man…I had also planned computer science at first, but starting liking the way lawyers speak. Not necessarily interested in law, but find their arguments interesting at times. So after I get my bach in poli science; Ima head off to law school (ANOTHER Fing 2-3 YRS in school)


RE: College is PAIN - Jiggly - 11-16-2021

(11-15-2021, 11:00 PM)DrangBrang Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 08:12 PM)Oni Wrote: Graduated Magna Cum Laude last year. Originally went for Computer Science, finished with a BBA in Management.

wow man…I had also planned computer science at first, but starting liking the way lawyers speak. Not necessarily interested in law, but find their arguments interesting at times. So after I get my bach in poli science; Ima head off to law school (ANOTHER Fing 2-3 YRS in school)

That is quite a thing to dedicate yourself to if you're not necessarily interested in law xD Although, as long as you're happy with what you want to do in life, then what does it matter?

I noticed a massive difference between my UK and US education. I did Art for my undergrad in the UK and only needed a couple of books. M housemates in other courses had some books but nothing too crazy. Most of the theory/written studies tended to come from a really expansive list of sources, and very rarely from one book. Only history of art had singular texts. They were also significantly less expensive than the books I needed for my US education. I followed up with a Masters in Education in the US and holy Christ the book expense was a shock to the system. 2-3 books per class per semester, all costing between $60-$400 for used/new. What a ridiculous expense.

I had very few tests in college. I suspect that was due to the nature of my courses. They were more heavily based on research projects and essays. That suits me much better than a test for rote memorization (what is the point of that?).


RE: College is PAIN - mothered - 11-16-2021

Moved from The Lounge forum to Academic Discussion.


RE: College is PAIN - DrangBrang - 11-17-2021

(11-16-2021, 12:11 AM)Jiggly Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 11:00 PM)DrangBrang Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 08:12 PM)Oni Wrote: Graduated Magna Cum Laude last year. Originally went for Computer Science, finished with a BBA in Management.

wow man…I had also planned computer science at first, but starting liking the way lawyers speak. Not necessarily interested in law, but find their arguments interesting at times. So after I get my bach in poli science; Ima head off to law school (ANOTHER Fing 2-3 YRS in school)

That is quite a thing to dedicate yourself to if you're not necessarily interested in law xD Although, as long as you're happy with what you want to do in life, then what does it matter?

I noticed a massive difference between my UK and US education. I did Art for my undergrad in the UK and only needed a couple of books. M housemates in other courses had some books but nothing too crazy. Most of the theory/written studies tended to come from a really expansive list of sources, and very rarely from one book. Only history of art had singular texts. They were also significantly less expensive than the books I needed for my US education. I followed up with a Masters in Education in the US and holy Christ the book expense was a shock to the system. 2-3 books per class per semester, all costing between $60-$400 for used/new. What a ridiculous expense.

I had very few tests in college. I suspect that was due to the nature of my courses. They were more heavily based on research projects and essays. That suits me much better than a test for rote memorization (what is the point of that?).

A. Man I can totally agree with your statement. Though you are so lucky that you didn’t have a lot of test’s. The hardest test I’ve done so far is my political science class. I mean, at the end its history, but government is so mixed & mashed together their’s so much… If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay or owe for your school education?


RE: College is PAIN - Jiggly - 11-17-2021

(11-17-2021, 04:19 PM)DrangBrang Wrote:
(11-16-2021, 12:11 AM)Jiggly Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 11:00 PM)DrangBrang Wrote: wow man…I had also planned computer science at first, but starting liking the way lawyers speak. Not necessarily interested in law, but find their arguments interesting at times. So after I get my bach in poli science; Ima head off to law school (ANOTHER Fing 2-3 YRS in school)

That is quite a thing to dedicate yourself to if you're not necessarily interested in law xD Although, as long as you're happy with what you want to do in life, then what does it matter?

I noticed a massive difference between my UK and US education. I did Art for my undergrad in the UK and only needed a couple of books. M housemates in other courses had some books but nothing too crazy. Most of the theory/written studies tended to come from a really expansive list of sources, and very rarely from one book. Only history of art had singular texts. They were also significantly less expensive than the books I needed for my US education. I followed up with a Masters in Education in the US and holy Christ the book expense was a shock to the system. 2-3 books per class per semester, all costing between $60-$400 for used/new. What a ridiculous expense.

I had very few tests in college. I suspect that was due to the nature of my courses. They were more heavily based on research projects and essays. That suits me much better than a test for rote memorization (what is the point of that?).

A. Man I can totally agree with your statement. Though you are so lucky that you didn’t have a lot of test’s. The hardest test I’ve done so far is my political science class. I mean, at the end its history, but government is so mixed & mashed together their’s so much… If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay or owe for your school education?

I am lucky, I have a defective memory at best, and struggled in exams. I went for more coursework based courses for that reason. That, and I love art.

No worries - I don't mind sharing. Although, this is a more complex answer than you may be expecting:
My undergrad fine art education was in the UK. As a British citizen in England at the time, it only cost £21,000 (approx $28,000 at the time of writing) in total for tuition for a 3 year university course (average in the UK as courses are more specialised/streamlined and there are no common core classes). In other words, £9,000 ($12,000) per year for tuition. As an English person going to University in England, you can get a loan & grants from the government that will cover the full cost (depending on family income). At the time of my education - you only needed to start paying this back once you started earning over £21,000 a year, and once you hit that threshold, you only needed to pay 9% of total earnings. After 30 years, any debt unpaid is wiped (threshold and time before the wipe changes if you move abroad). My Uni also gave me 1,000 a year towards living due to my low income family. My living costs were mostly covered.

My Masters in the US was only for 2 years at a grand total of $38,000 for tuition alone ($9,500 per semester). As an international student, I also had to pay for mandatory health insurance at another $1,000 per semester, making it a required cost of $42,000. This also doesn't include the cost of books or living/transport as I didn't live on campus. I think in real terms, that Masters cost closer to $50,000-55,000.

Tl;dr
UK Undergrad for 3 years as citizen - $28,000 + living/school materials
US Masters for 2 years as international student - $42,000 + living/school materials


RE: College is PAIN - Oni - 11-18-2021

(11-17-2021, 11:36 PM)Jiggly Wrote: At the time of my education - you only needed to start paying this back once you started earning over £21,000 a year, and once you hit that threshold, you only needed to pay 9% of total earnings. After 30 years, any debt unpaid is wiped (threshold and time before the wipe changes if you move abroad). My Uni also gave me 1,000 a year towards living due to my low income family. My living costs were mostly covered.

So 100% free if you make less than £21,000 a year for the next 30 years. Otherwise, it's just 9% of your check.

Community college is a good way to take the core classes here, as the average cost of a degree in the U.S. is ~$25,000 per year.


RE: College is PAIN - Drako - 11-18-2021

Never been to college myself, but it sounds like more trouble than it's worth. So I don't plan on going. I have other ambitions that wouldn't require a college degree. Trade school would be a different story though.

(11-15-2021, 08:12 PM)Oni Wrote: Graduated Magna Cum Laude last year. Originally went for Computer Science, finished with a BBA in Management.

Still cant believe this dude graduated from Cum University.


RE: College is PAIN - DrangBrang - 11-18-2021

(11-17-2021, 11:36 PM)Jiggly Wrote:
(11-17-2021, 04:19 PM)DrangBrang Wrote:
(11-16-2021, 12:11 AM)Jiggly Wrote: That is quite a thing to dedicate yourself to if you're not necessarily interested in law xD Although, as long as you're happy with what you want to do in life, then what does it matter?

I noticed a massive difference between my UK and US education. I did Art for my undergrad in the UK and only needed a couple of books. M housemates in other courses had some books but nothing too crazy. Most of the theory/written studies tended to come from a really expansive list of sources, and very rarely from one book. Only history of art had singular texts. They were also significantly less expensive than the books I needed for my US education. I followed up with a Masters in Education in the US and holy Christ the book expense was a shock to the system. 2-3 books per class per semester, all costing between $60-$400 for used/new. What a ridiculous expense.

I had very few tests in college. I suspect that was due to the nature of my courses. They were more heavily based on research projects and essays. That suits me much better than a test for rote memorization (what is the point of that?).

A. Man I can totally agree with your statement. Though you are so lucky that you didn’t have a lot of test’s. The hardest test I’ve done so far is my political science class. I mean, at the end its history, but government is so mixed & mashed together their’s so much… If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay or owe for your school education?

I am lucky, I have a defective memory at best, and struggled in exams. I went for more coursework based courses for that reason. That, and I love art.

No worries - I don't mind sharing. Although, this is a more complex answer than you may be expecting:
My undergrad fine art education was in the UK. As a British citizen in England at the time, it only cost £21,000 (approx $28,000 at the time of writing) in total for tuition for a 3 year university course (average in the UK as courses are more specialised/streamlined and there are no common core classes). In other words, £9,000 ($12,000) per year for tuition. As an English person going to University in England, you can get a loan & grants from the government that will cover the full cost (depending on family income). At the time of my education - you only needed to start paying this back once you started earning over £21,000 a year, and once you hit that threshold, you only needed to pay 9% of total earnings. After 30 years, any debt unpaid is wiped (threshold and time before the wipe changes if you move abroad). My Uni also gave me 1,000 a year towards living due to my low income family. My living costs were mostly covered.

My Masters in the US was only for 2 years at a grand total of $38,000 for tuition alone ($9,500 per semester). As an international student, I also had to pay for mandatory health insurance at another $1,000 per semester, making it a required cost of $42,000. This also doesn't include the cost of books or living/transport as I didn't live on campus. I think in real terms, that Masters cost closer to $50,000-55,000.

Tl;dr
UK Undergrad for 3 years as citizen - $28,000 + living/school materials
US Masters for 2 years as international student - $42,000 + living/school materials


Complicated yes, big numbers…yes, did I understand it? In some ways I did! To be honest, schools need to be cheaper, and its good you got people supporting you. A nice sister to help out, plus your able to get some grant from gov. I had planned to attend UC Davis, didn’t cut it cuz I planned L8, but it would’ve been more expensive anyway. Plus, I know going that way means dealing with tickets and cops. Plus huge traffic headed toward bay area. So I know attend another college that is taught by UC Davis graduates…lol. After all, they read from the same book.

So far I think I spent: 5-13k (my minds so busy rn…this price is way off…yet close in some ways)
As for books: I try to find them online.