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NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Spooky - 10-20-2021
New York City Council to Remove Thomas Jefferson Statue Due to His History as a Slaveowner
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The removal was due to concerns raised by some Black and Latino Council members about Jefferson's ownership of slaves. The discussion gained traction over the past year as the country has taken into account other monuments.
"We're not being revisionist. We're not waging a war on history," Inez Barron said during a public meeting. "We're saying that we want to make sure the whole story is told—that there are no half-truths and that we are not perpetrating lies."
"[The statue] was, and still is, one of the most prominent figures in the entire room—no matter where you're sitting or standing, everyone inevitably sees the statue upon entering the chambers," said Adrienne Adams, councilwoman and co-chair of the Black, Latino and Asian Caucus. "It's thanks to Thomas Jefferson that we hold dear certain unalienable rights; among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
"Yet, as a lawmaker, and perhaps more importantly as an African American woman, I cannot help but think about the other part of his legacy not talked about enough," she continued. "Thomas Jefferson was a slaveholder who owned over 600 human beings."
No decision was reached as to the new location of the statue. The two options being decided between were to either move the statue to a less prominent location in City Hall, or give the statue to the New-York Historical Society. Although the plan is to come to a decision regarding the statue's final destination by the end of 2021, it was agreed that the statue would be removed from its current location in City Hall.
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What's next? George Washington statue being removed?
Donald Trump predicted this happening in 2017.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Drako - 10-20-2021
I guess one bad thing is enough to undo all of the good a person has done.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - laininthewired - 10-20-2021
Ronald Regan pumped crack into poor black communities but I Don't see his statue being torn down.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Dismas - 10-21-2021
You won't find a founding father that discussed the concept of freedom more.
(10-20-2021, 07:57 PM)Drako Wrote: I guess one bad thing is enough to undo all of the good a person has done.
People's idea of justice has become that distorted, unfortunately.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Boudica - 10-21-2021
They say they're not waging a war on history then say they want to move it to a less prominent position, therefore hiding history? If you want people to know both sides of the story, leave the statue in full view. Add a plaque with further information. Make sure people see history, no matter how nice or not it may be. Let people decide for themselves how they judge this man. Moving a statue means you are telling people what to think and how to judge this man. I don't think they have the right to do that.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - mothered - 10-21-2021
They've waited till now to do It?
Also, under the circumstances, Is the removal truly warranted?
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Black crusader41 - 11-01-2021
Their thinking was asshat backwards, I am all for one of the most influential people in US history to have all of his actions both good and bad readily available, but this just seems backwards. For a society that breathes “individualism” it sure is about everyone conforming to the norms.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Dismas - 11-01-2021
(11-01-2021, 09:24 PM)Black crusader41 Wrote: Their thinking was asshat backwards, I am all for one of the most influential people in US history to have all of his actions both good and bad readily available, but this just seems backwards. For a society that breathes “individualism” it sure is about everyone conforming to the norms.
It is a dangerous game and people are too thin-skinned. For some, teaching about a person's mistakes isn't enough. They want to erase the person's existence.
RE: NYC to remove Thomas Jefferson statue - Spooky - 11-02-2021
(11-01-2021, 10:13 PM)Dismas Wrote:The irony is they would erase everything at that point because there is not a single point in history that wouldn’t offend someone. This is a dangerous slippery slope.(11-01-2021, 09:24 PM)Black crusader41 Wrote: Their thinking was asshat backwards, I am all for one of the most influential people in US history to have all of his actions both good and bad readily available, but this just seems backwards. For a society that breathes “individualism” it sure is about everyone conforming to the norms.
It is a dangerous game and people are too thin-skinned. For some, teaching about a person's mistakes isn't enough. They want to erase the person's existence.