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Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - d4ggm4sk - 08-27-2021
Im asking this on the behalf of a nice guy, (with nice guy syndrome) I for example happen to be perverted but I lack faith in myself, so Im seeing the assholes
ride away with the sexy girls every time. the question I have asked myself because of my defeatist and fatalistic negative attitude:
Are kind peopple and nice people actually worthless slabs of meat, like worms, that are unwanted and generally disliked, a detriment?
no one likes Karen. but sadly, many of us are. we nice people are like the decks on the car wheels, if an alphamale goes postal or a shooting takes place
they just murder us in the most gruesome and cruel ways because we are worthless, arent we?
personally, because of my nice and polite behaviour, i feel like im treated like shit all the time and ive started to be nice back if the person is attracted,
in a kinky way. our lives dont matter anything for a fucking damn.
so. are we nice people worthless and mean people are cool and worth more? and if you dont think you as a nice person are, why dont you think youre worthless?
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - mothered - 08-28-2021
Quote:personally, because of my nice and polite behaviour, i feel like im treated like shit all the timeI understand where you're coming from but unfortunately, you have no control over other people's behavior.
What you can control, Is whether you decide to take It on board and needlessly deal with their negativity, or disregard It altogether and get on with life. I've applied myself to the latter from a very long time ago, and couldn't be happier. Just remember: "They're the ones with the problem", so don't become a part of their equation. You know what you're worth and that's all that matters.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Oni - 08-28-2021
You only have full control over the energy you put out, whether that's positive or negative. Be kind to others when you're able and surround yourself with people that do the same. If you do that, then you won't end up asking questions like these.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Marshland - 08-28-2021
Being nice can result in people trying to easily take advantage of you so its also important to be assertive and don't let people walk over you
However i don't think being nice and polite is a disadvantage or means you have less value.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Jiggly - 08-28-2021
(08-28-2021, 08:52 AM)Marshland Wrote: Being nice can result in people trying to easily take advantage of you so its also important to be assertive and don't let people walk over you
However i don't think being nice and polite is a disadvantage or means you have less value.
I think you can be nice and not let people take you for granted. Being a nice person, and being a person who needs to be validated by others, are two different things that can often get confused. As you get older in life, you notice the assholes don't always win. Sometimes they might, but the nice people are the ones everyone appreciates and respects. At least, that's what I've found in my working life. High school was very different.
If what the assholes are achieving now is bothering you, try to turn your focus inwards. Decide what YOU could be doing right now to reach your goals. Before long, you won't be as bothered by the assholes. We don't live long enough to justify spending time caring about what the idiots and nasty folks do. Control what YOU do with your life, not how they treat you.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - d4ggm4sk - 08-28-2021
(08-28-2021, 10:28 AM)Jiggly Wrote:(08-28-2021, 08:52 AM)Marshland Wrote: Being nice can result in people trying to easily take advantage of you so its also important to be assertive and don't let people walk over you
However i don't think being nice and polite is a disadvantage or means you have less value.
I think you can be nice and not let people take you for granted. Being a nice person, and being a person who needs to be validated by others, are two different things that can often get confused. As you get older in life, you notice the assholes don't always win. Sometimes they might, but the nice people are the ones everyone appreciates and respects. At least, that's what I've found in my working life. High school was very different.
If what the assholes are achieving now is bothering you, try to turn your focus inwards. Decide what YOU could be doing right now to reach your goals. Before long, you won't be as bothered by the assholes. We don't live long enough to justify spending time caring about what the idiots and nasty folks do. Control what YOU do with your life, not how they treat you.
I feel like Im nice but in a way that makes others stop caring about me and trash me with the floor while I just smile and ignore it politely.
I had a bully when I was young, and later in life, he became a famous celebrity and got the entire instagram game slayed with millions subs.
I have made several failed suicide attempts that my psychologist doesnt care about and I feel like every day is another defeat.
maybe I deserve this, and I met a milf irl who degraded me every day at work and I was sweet back and it was kinky.
i would say im defeatistic and fatalist, and my behaviour is submissive, kind sadomasochist self-destructive.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Monolith - 08-28-2021
Its basic human behaviour, everyone expect something from each other but nice guys everytime tries to meet their expectations, and in course of time this nice behaviour of yours stops perceived as "being nice and kind" and it starts to being your "must do". So a rude person can be rude they will dgaf about it but when a rude person shows kindness they will see it as a blessing literally like a naughty dog which got reward/treat for its good acts but again no one will care what good boi doing because it should be "good boi" as its his "default"
as example humans perceive everything "normal" after awhile, so at somewhere nice and bad persons are equal. Difference starts to show itself when they except more from nice person, bad persons dont need to do a thing because they even barely meet others exceptation. People act like dogs to him and in the end if their exceptations met they orgasm because its hard gained satisfaction from bad guy while they dont need to do something special for nice person he already doing everything they want (The hard way is the sweetest when you succed as example think about cheating on a single player game it will be boring really easy right ?)
Lets get back to why people except more and more from nice persons simply we are greedy creatures cause "good act" doesn't come as a reward but a free service if it's free why would he stop ? even in child development, if you give the child everything he wants, it's %100 that you raised a spoilt and cheeky bastard that gonna blame you if you fail to meet his exceptations. You should have rules, you need to keep your place in hierarchy. Otherwise even if it's your child won't hesitate to walk over you. If your "nice being" isn't a reward they will want it more and more and in the end when your power isnt enought to satisfy them you will become the "bad" person here and they will get rid of you as a result
And i dont agree with people that said you cant control them you actually can. No one has a fixed character it changes when you talk to a judge, or simply to authorities. It changes again when you talking with your neighbours and it changes when you are all alone. Lets look to that from judge's point of view you can't do something considered bad in front of judge because there is consequences and its unconsciously affects all of us. Lets take a normal man you just met as example you cant treat him like your friends because you dont know how he will react, you dont know his boundaries and these are all determines how you treat this man. But if he just being nice and remains silent when someone swearing to him then its allowed to curse him. If he let that happen once there will be second and third and four one for sure cause there is no consequences. he has no boundaries, he has no rules, so you can do whatever you want to him, he is just being quiet. If we consider the opposite that he stand up and fuck the guy who curse him in the ass then let alone swearing he even cant talk shit to him. Well the last one is an extremist approaching but i experienced this before. The problem is nicest ones is the easiest to abuse and manipulate. When he thinks about well being of people, people dgaf about him, they want more and more, when it comes to the rate that nice guy cant satisfy them they just simply get rid of him, and this starts a trauma on nice people they unconsciously thinks that they need to satisfy people and trying harder and harder on their next relationships it devours them from inside
so my answer is if people are the ones who determines that worth, yes they are worthless, it's a good thing but no one should be nice just dgaf about others. You only live once and dont waste your time for others, even you can waste theirs for your well being no one is more important than you, maybe they can call you bad, but who cares? if you are happy then its okay
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - mothered - 08-29-2021
(08-28-2021, 04:32 PM)Monolith Wrote: And i dont agree with people that said you cant control them you actually can.You cannot control their actions.
For Instance, If someone Is prepared to shoot you by loading their gun, driving to your home and doing the job when you open the door, you have no control over each and every event.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Mr.Kurd - 08-29-2021
Tbh, I hate when people take advantage of you.
I used to answer people's questions kindly and always be on service for free but that lead to more time putting for them than myself.. Luckily I made a list of important, trusted and real people who want my success. After them am not gonna help others for free and at least if I do, I will not help them like I used to.
There are people who only wants you when they need you over that you wont even recive a "hello" messege. There are people who don't want your success even if you were the nicest person to them.. Give them a chance and wait? if he failed your test them leave them a lone and send him to ignorant and strangers list.
RE: Sadistic question: are nice people actually worthless? - Mom - 08-29-2021
You're worth what you set your worth at. If you're willing to sacrifice that worth for the sake of a nice reputation, one shouldn't be surprise when that worth is lowered. Self-respect is more important. Be kind to those who earned it.
When you treat everyone like a king or queen, you're the only slave in the room.
It's really that simple.