Quote:After World of Warcraft successfully relaunched its original "vanilla" client in 2019, fans began wondering whether the WoW Classic universe would eventually march toward expansion packs—like the unofficial WoW Vanilla community had already done. That question was answered earlier this year with news that the official WoW Classic line would indeed adopt 2007's Burning Crusade expansion sometime in 2021.

Blizzard firmed up this plan's timeline on Thursday, confirming that WoW Classic's Burning Crusade transition will kick off on June 1. Just like with 2019's launch of WoW Classic, anyone who pays for an ongoing WoW subscription will get full access to WoW Burning Crusade at no additional cost.

Today's news also clarifies the game's march toward "Classic but newer"—it understands that some players may not want to stomp toward new zones like the Outland or new character species like the Blood Elf and Draenei. If you've already been playing WoW Classic since its 2019 launch, you'll be prompted starting on May 18 to peruse a new "cloning" feature, designed to let you do something with your current characters. The default is to pack that character up and move it to a newer Burning Crusade server, thus deleting its pre-expansion state. You can also lock an existing character so that it is not moved forward to a Burning Crusade server, or you can split the difference and have two versions of a beloved character: one on an older server, trapped forever in a pre-expansion bubble, and one on a newer server, ready to march alongside the ever-moving tides of darkness.

(05-09-2021, 09:54 PM)AnalAssAssin Wrote: I read about this on another forum.
The thing is - people want classic WoW. The WoW that was from the beginning.
But WoW is built on progress. They need to release new content every new patch,
otherwise people will just sit there, maxed out level, maxed out gear,
create toon after toon and yeah.

So.

The big question now is: Will WoW continue classic with ALL expsnsions, or,
will they create new content, that is going to be meant as 'classic' WoW content?
But this is what many classic fans hate. They think that this will become WoW retail 2.0,
exactly the same asWoW retail, but that its classic, but with fresh content.

Its strange really. What do you think, @"Dismas" ?
Personally I dont even play classic, but I only play retail.

(05-09-2021, 11:41 PM)Dismas Wrote:

(05-09-2021, 09:54 PM)AnalAssAssin Wrote: I read about this on another forum.
The thing is - people want classic WoW. The WoW that was from the beginning.
But WoW is built on progress. They need to release new content every new patch,
otherwise people will just sit there, maxed out level, maxed out gear,
create toon after toon and yeah.

So.

The big question now is: Will WoW continue classic with ALL  expsnsions, or,
will they create new content, that is going to be meant as 'classic' WoW content?
But this is what many classic fans hate. They think that this will become WoW retail 2.0,
exactly the same asWoW retail, but that its classic, but with fresh content.

Its strange really. What do you think, @"Dismas" ?
Personally I dont even play classic, but I only play retail.

It's a real question. I don't know when they'll stop adding expansions and say "this is where we messed up". Maybe Cataclysm?

I would take major issue with them adding new content to Classic. Other games (like Runescape) have fragmented their playerbase by doing similar. For Runescape, they determined 2007 was the point they wanted to return the game to, and Old School is a fork from then. Once a game creates a fork and starts adding new content, it only causes further divide among the playerbase. It splits the developer team and veteran players either have to start fresh or get left behind.

I've played every expansion since Vanilla, but I won't be sticking around if they do a fork like Runescape did. It's bad for the game. Best case scenario, Classic remains in a pre-Cataclysm bubble without new content or lore. Going forward Blizzard should take notes of what was and wasn't successful in previous expansions. Rolling back 8 expansions then starting from scratch would be an awful route to take.

(05-10-2021, 01:28 PM)Boudica Wrote: I think I'm really agreeing with you both. I'm failing to see how classic WoW is going to result in a good outcome. This very much echoes my concerns from when they first launched classic.
Like you say, the kinds of people that don't like retail WoW, those are the people that are going to be very hard to please.

(05-10-2021, 01:53 PM)Dismas Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 01:28 PM)Boudica Wrote: I think I'm really agreeing with you both. I'm failing to see how classic WoW is going to result in a good outcome. This very much echoes my concerns from when they first launched classic.
Like you say, the kinds of people that don't like retail WoW, those are the people that are going to be very hard to please.

The kind of people that quit the game 15 years ago, are the same people that will complain and leave when updates don't suit their playstyle. Once the rose-tinted glasses come off, you're playing on graphics from 15 years ago and the quality of life updates aren't there. To add new content or create a fork, would be disrespectful to people that have supported retail the past 15 years.

Again, best case scenario is WoW Classic remaining in a pre-Cataclysm bubble (without updates), as an accurate representation of what the game actually was.

(05-10-2021, 08:56 PM)Boudica Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 01:53 PM)Dismas Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 01:28 PM)Boudica Wrote: I think I'm really agreeing with you both. I'm failing to see how classic WoW is going to result in a good outcome. This very much echoes my concerns from when they first launched classic.
Like you say, the kinds of people that don't like retail WoW, those are the people that are going to be very hard to please.

The kind of people that quit the game 15 years ago, are the same people that will complain and leave when updates don't suit their playstyle. Once the rose-tinted glasses come off, you're playing on graphics from 15 years ago and the quality of life updates aren't there. To add new content or create a fork, would be disrespectful to people that have supported retail the past 15 years.

Again, best case scenario is WoW Classic remaining in a pre-Cataclysm bubble (without updates), as an accurate representation of what the game actually was.

So, what is it that is so different about WoW pre-Cataclysm? With RS, I get that it was the EoC system among others things. There's definitely a really stand-out point of change. Whereas, I don't think I know nearly about WoW to identify a similar point of massive change for WoW.
If there isn't one, then what is it classic WoW seek that's different from retail WoW?

Nostalgia I get. I also sort-of want to try WoW Classic, just so I can experience what the game was like back then, as I never got to see it the first time round xD

(05-11-2021, 05:51 AM)Dismas Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 08:56 PM)Boudica Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 01:53 PM)Dismas Wrote: The kind of people that quit the game 15 years ago, are the same people that will complain and leave when updates don't suit their playstyle. Once the rose-tinted glasses come off, you're playing on graphics from 15 years ago and the quality of life updates aren't there. To add new content or create a fork, would be disrespectful to people that have supported retail the past 15 years.

Again, best case scenario is WoW Classic remaining in a pre-Cataclysm bubble (without updates), as an accurate representation of what the game actually was.

So, what is it that is so different about WoW pre-Cataclysm? With RS, I get that it was the EoC system among others things. There's definitely a really stand-out point of change. Whereas, I don't think I know nearly about WoW to identify a similar point of massive change for WoW.
If there isn't one, then what is it classic WoW seek that's different from retail WoW?

Nostalgia I get. I also sort-of want to try WoW Classic, just so I can experience what the game was like back then, as I never got to see it the first time round xD

I'd guesstimate the "point of no return" was somewhere between 2007-2010, just like with Runescape. While there's definitely difficult content you can do, both of them introduced ways to pay for levels (i.e. level tokens/treasure hunter) and watered content down so it was more approachable. The expansions tend to be hit-or-miss, so there's definitely points where I took a break.

(05-10-2021, 01:28 PM)Boudica Wrote: I think I'm really agreeing with you both. I'm failing to see how classic WoW is going to result in a good outcome. This very much echoes my concerns from when they first launched classic.
Like you say, the kinds of people that don't like retail WoW, those are the people that are going to be very hard to please.