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Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Jiggly - 08-31-2020
Meet Gertrude, a pig. She has a chip in her brain recording her brain activity.
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Elon Musk’s brain-machine interface company Neuralink showcased a pig outfitted with the company’s device, at an event livestreamed on YouTube. One pig, Gertrude, had a device recording signals from an area of the brain linked to her snout. She’d had the implant for two months at the time of the demonstration.
As Gertrude’s snout touched things, an array of dots and a series of noises indicated when more neurons were firing. Pigs have large parts of their brains that are devoted to the snout, a sensitive sensing instrument.
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Neuralink didn’t invent brain-machine interfaces — they’ve been around and implanted in people since 2006. The company’s main contribution to the technology is Neuralink’s thin, flexible wires, which are covered in electrodes to pick up brain activity.
The threads have more electrodes than other systems — which means more information — and they may not cause as much damage as stiff needles. However, foreign objects in the brain degrade over time, and smaller ones break down faster. One member of the team at tonight’s demonstration said that one of the main challenges for Neuralink was making sure the device could last for decades in a corrosive environment like the brain.Apparently, these devices could one day be used to cure Dementia, Parkinson's and spinal cord injuries.
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What are your thoughts?
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Green314 - 08-31-2020
I world have called the pig "Brunilde" but it's okay.
Ah btw very scary.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Drako - 08-31-2020
I can see the tests are going well so far. And what I can gather from this is that Elon Musk claims these devices could be used in the future to cure Dementia, Parkinsons, and spinal cord injuries. And that's not a bad thing at all. The bad is if these devices could be used to cure things in the brain as advanced as Dementia, they could also be used for bad as well. Not necessarily mind control, but just general serveillance, altering memories, or our understanding of certain topics.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Oni - 09-01-2020
Sounding pretty Sci-Fi. Maybe in a decade or two we'll be able to buy augmentations with cognitive abilities or skills.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - mothered - 09-01-2020
Coincidentally, we had a conversation about this at work today.
I do hope It can be used for curing the said medical conditions.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Jiggly - 09-01-2020
(08-31-2020, 10:50 PM)Drako Wrote: I can see the tests are going well so far. And what I can gather from this is that Elon Musk claims these devices could be used in the future to cure Dementia, Parkinsons, and spinal cord injuries. And that's not a bad thing at all. The bad is if these devices could be used to cure things in the brain as advanced as Dementia, they could also be used for bad as well. Not necessarily mind control, but just general serveillance, altering memories, or our understanding of certain topics.
One of the things they discussed was the potential for helping us understand the brain better. As it stands, we don't understand enough about how the brain works to be anywhere close to memory alterations etc. This technology could help us get there. In which case, there could be real concerns for that.
(09-01-2020, 05:51 AM)Oni Wrote: Sounding pretty Sci-Fi. Maybe in a decade or two we'll be able to buy augmentations with cognitive abilities or skills.
They talked about eventually combining the human brain with AI to enhance human cognitive abilities. This seems really freaky to me.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - XHR - 09-02-2020
I would never chip myself like that, just imagine a scenario where your brain gets breached and dumped in "Compromised" subforum...
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - mothered - 09-02-2020
(09-02-2020, 03:00 AM)XHR Wrote: I would never chip myself like that, just imagine a scenario where your brain gets breached and dumped in "Compromised" subforum...Our Identity Is already In the hands of ex-amount of government entities and the like.
We certainly don't need further exposure.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - Jiggly - 09-02-2020
(09-02-2020, 06:17 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-02-2020, 03:00 AM)XHR Wrote: I would never chip myself like that, just imagine a scenario where your brain gets breached and dumped in "Compromised" subforum...Our Identity Is already In the hands of ex-amount of government entities and the like.
We certainly don't need further exposure.
With that in mind, would you want it if you were diagnosed with Alzheimer's and knew it could cure you? The compromise being, you're trusting your brain to Elon Musk's company.
RE: Musk's Neuralink: Gertrude the Pig - mothered - 09-02-2020
(09-02-2020, 09:59 AM)Jiggly Wrote: With that in mind, would you want it if you were diagnosed with Alzheimer's and knew it could cure you?If It were to save my life, most certainly.
(09-02-2020, 09:59 AM)Jiggly Wrote: The compromise being, you're trusting your brain to Elon Musk's company.Thanks to Elon Musk's company, the decision as to whether I should live or die will be "mine", and not that of the disease.