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Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Oni - 08-06-2013
Just thought these statistics were interesting, being from the FBI and Home Office.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - w00t - 08-06-2013
What it comes down to( which has always been true ) is that when you cram a large amount of not extremely well off people into a small area, bad things will happen.
The US crime rate is lower than other countries because of the large amount of rural communities( AKA the entire midwest ), as opposed to places like the UK, where people living in the countryside permanently is the exception, meaning that the working poor are all in roughly the same area.
As for the guns thing, I don't think anyone argues that restricting rifles will significantly reduce murder rates. If I want to kill someone, I'll be bringing a pistol, not a rifle. The reason to take a look at how we sell rifles( why CAN'T the US have a database of high-powered rifle owners? ) is not to reduce the murder statistic, but to make mass shootings considerably harder, and make it more expensive for organized crime to acquire rifles, too.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - ねこまっしぐら - 08-06-2013
I own a Kevlar vest. It will come in handy some day.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Nefarious - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 08:35 PM)Johnny Wrote: I own a Kevlar vest. It will come in handy some day.
How?
Most states don't allow anyone but law enforcement or bail enforcement agents to purchase them.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - ねこまっしぐら - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 10:44 PM)Kirito Wrote: How?
Most states don't allow anyone but law enforcement or bail enforcement agents to purchase them.
My grandpa served in the Vietnam war. He brought back one. Now it's mine.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Kinanizer - 08-07-2013
This guy makes some good points, but I have some input of my own. The reason crime is so high in urban areas is because of the ghettos and projects that the cops are to scared to go into. And because of that, crime in Urban areas will never go down no matter how many more cops are hired because it won't change the fact they won't go into the ghettos and projects. As for guns, I'd like to quote the NRA, "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun." While personally I have little respect for the NRA, there are many people who think the same way as the guy who said that. So for them owning a gun is their peace of mind. Because of that I do not believe taking away guns would help, but better gun control would help. Like for example a bill was just turned down because of a hillbilly minority in the senate that, if it would have passed, would have allowed monitoring of gun sales online. Instead any freak can buy a gun online, and that's the big gap in our gun control.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Oni - 08-07-2013
(08-06-2013, 10:44 PM)Kirito Wrote: How?
Most states don't allow anyone but law enforcement or bail enforcement agents to purchase them.
Definitely not, they are easy to get.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Nefarious - 08-07-2013
(08-07-2013, 02:40 AM)Oni Wrote: Definitely not, they are easy to get.
Well you can buy up to level III-A, but not level III or level IV.
You can't get the good ones.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Oni - 08-07-2013
(08-07-2013, 03:21 AM)Kirito Wrote: Well you can buy up to level III-A, but not level III or level IV.
You can't get the good ones.
I haven't seen any legislation preventing the purchase of level IV armor and I've seen level IV ballistic plates for sale in plenty of places. The main issue with level IV armor is that it is usually ceramic or brittle in nature, which means the armor would only survive 1-2 hits.
Edit: You can actually buy EOD suits if you want to. I've seen a few online for sale.
RE: Guns - Some Interesting Statistics - Cressi - 09-13-2013
(08-06-2013, 08:35 PM)Johnny Wrote: I own a Kevlar vest. It will come in handy some day.
Amen i say, have got an old one too ^^