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RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Leviathan - 08-04-2019

To be honest, I totaly agree that the "rainbow capitalism" is kinda making everything hard for gay people.
I, myself am bi thus it kinda affects me as well but to be honest... I feel like let people live their life, who the fuck should care about what/who they love.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - natifix - 08-04-2019

(08-04-2019, 01:18 AM)Leviathan Wrote: To be honest, I totaly agree that the "rainbow capitalism" is kinda making everything hard for gay people.
I, myself am bi thus it kinda affects me as well but to be honest... I feel like let people live their life, who the fuck should care about what/who they love.

I feel the same way. Love to me, is to be at one with that which you love. its a feeling of oneness, intimacy, and belonging. no one should be afraid if I love a pigeon, a tree, a man or a woman, we all love something, someone, etc... so its complete bullshit when people act like there is something to fear from it. Capitalizing on anything has negative consequences as well, I cant say I admire capitalizm. Its rather destructive and is based on scarcity rather than abundance. Its a toxic relationship with all the other functions of that system. Feeding off any other system is not healthy... its draining. this is why the people are poor and the rich are very few.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Inori - 08-05-2019

(08-03-2019, 03:30 PM)Magnetron Wrote:
(08-02-2019, 06:50 PM)Valkyrie Wrote:
(08-02-2019, 02:10 PM)Magnetron Wrote: See, that's the problem. That won't happen. To give rights to one group means taking it away from another.
Their parades where they flaunt their sexuality is nationally subsidized but for you to flaunt your heterosexuality in the same way is criminalized. Straight parades are considered hate crimes and would be promptly shut down. That's what your sexuality is, a crime.

Pride parades used to be demonstrations and protests for equal rights and freedom from oppression, and while that did evolve into a celebration of recognition as those rights were won, the only reason they're subsidized and corporatized today is for profit; to a big company sponsoring an event, the LGBTQ community is just another demographic to exploit by offering false acceptance during pride month and pretending queer people don't exist during the rest of the year. The community isn't the problem, rainbow capitalism is.

That is true, but why then not exploit heterosexual displays as well? Oh wait, they're illegal.
The early protests for gay rights were not legitimate, they were covertly engineered otherwise the cops would've dispersed them which is what happened during one real protest in the early 90s which was cracked down with little effort. The fags unsurprisingly posed no real physical threat to the cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVSXiCb-P08

Oh boy, lots to unpack here. First, straight pride is not illegal. What's been happening recently with permits being denied for parades is due to white supremacists and hate groups co-opting straight pride as a dog whistle, and cities not wanting to be associated with such groups. Even still, there's a sanctioned, legal "straight pride" parade happening in Boston later this month organized by people with known ties to hate groups, and lead by Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay man (which seems strange for a straight event) who has a history of railing against minorities (which seems stranger still for a supposedly peaceful event).

Second, I fail to see how using law enforcement as a tool for silencing minorities and systemic oppression is a good (or even remotely valid) argument against LGBTQ people's rights, as it violates those rights by principle.

Finally, the fact that people such as yourself still use the term fag unironically outside the context of edgy 4chan memes shows that there's still lots of work to do on the equality front, and makes me think you're arguing in bad faith here, and aren't actually looking to debate.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Magnetron - 08-07-2019

Quote:Oh boy, lots to unpack here. First, straight pride is not illegal. What's been happening recently with permits being denied for parades is due to white supremacists and hate groups co-opting straight pride as a dog whistle

Yes, there's always a pretext isn't there? Everything opposed to the status quo is hate speech. Homosexual pride, non-white pride and female pride are to be celebrated but straight pride, male pride and white pride are all to be derided as hate speech and banned.

The fact that they're branding Milo Yiannoupolos (gay Jew who can't shut up about sucking black cocks) a racist, homophobic Nazi showcases just how out of control this SJW bullshit has become.
They'll throw anyone, including gays and minorities under the bus just to preserve this retarded narrative.

My own city hall in the town I live in told me directly that a straight pride parade would not be permitted because it is "hate speech". In other words, my sexuality is criminal. How else is anyone supposed to interpret this?

Quote:Second, I fail to see how using law enforcement as a tool for silencing minorities and systemic oppression is a good (or even remotely valid) argument against LGBTQ people's rights, as it violates those rights by principle.

The point was that the system and the plutocratic thugs who run it have engineered gay acceptance, it had nothing to do with activism or anyone's rights. The cops could've cracked down on all those fag protests but they didn't because their masters told them not to. The system wanted it to happen.
Nowadays where the tactic of Color Revolutions have been thrust into the spotlight, it's no longer a secret that the government engineered and sanctioned many protests.
Go find out what really happens at an actual unauthorized protest. The cops storm the crowd with shields and batons and beat the shit out of everyone, vans get loaded up with handcuffed protesters and a complete media blackout follows as if it never happened.
That's what a real protest looks like and why you never hear about one.

Quote:Finally, the fact that people such as yourself still use the term fag unironically outside the context of edgy 4chan memes shows that there's still lots of work to do on the equality front

There's no such thing as equality as I just explained. You can't grant one group rights without taking them away from another. Today's world is one where racism against whites is tolerated, male rape victims of female perpetrators not recognized and where the sexuality of straight people is routinely demonized and policed to the point that there's now millions of incels.

You give a freak an inch and he will walk all over you. They all first claim to want equality, then they ask for privileges and then they pursue supremacy. Never in history has it ever worked out any other way.

As for "there's still lots of work to do on the equality front", gay acceptance has reached its record high in 2018 at 53% which has since dropped to 46%. The pendulum is swinging back the other way. They are finished. People are getting sick of this freakshow.

Quote:and makes me think you're arguing in bad faith here, and aren't actually looking to debate.

If I was in bad faith, I'd be a politely condescending, virtue-signalling, politically-correct spineless cocksucker that sugarcoats all his shit like every SJW. Instead I'm being straight and candid with you. So I think that speaks for itself.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Magnetron - 08-07-2019

(08-03-2019, 11:33 PM)natifix Wrote:
(08-02-2019, 02:10 PM)Magnetron Wrote: See, that's the problem. That won't happen. To give rights to one group means taking it away from another.
Their parades where they flaunt their sexuality is nationally subsidized but for you to flaunt your heterosexuality in the same way is criminalized. Straight parades are considered hate crimes and would be promptly shut down. That's what your sexuality is, a crime.

this what what the ego fears will happen yes. Equal rights for everyone means less rights for me. this is only a matter of ignorance imho and can be quickly remedied if the person in question were to drop their expectations of controlling what they do not have control over.

this is why being self aware is so important.

someone once told me, if you want to understand others, dive deep inside yourself. if you want to understand yourself, dive deep insider others.

"Equal rights for everyone" has never happened in entire human history and will not ever happen. What always happened was a supposedly-oppressed demographic pursuing supremacy and subjugating another as soon as they got the chance.

Quote:and can be quickly remedied if the person in question were to drop their expectations of controlling what they do not have control over.

With this right here you are (ironically) demanding control over somebody else's imperatives. So the implication to me is that if only you could force people to think your way, everything would be fine.
You're making the same mistake as the sheep you criticize.

Quote:someone once told me, if you want to understand others, dive deep inside yourself. if you want to understand yourself, dive deep insider others.

Funny thing, when I did exactly that the last few years (I'm almost 30), I abandoned my unproductive fantasies about equality and instead accepted the harsh reality. Learning how powerful perception is and how the majority perceive is a very important skill, I agree. But I guarantee you that you will not like what you find.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - natifix - 08-07-2019

(08-07-2019, 03:23 PM)Magnetron Wrote: "Equal rights for everyone" has never happened in entire human history and will not ever happen. What always happened was a supposedly-oppressed demographic pursuing supremacy and subjugating another as soon as they got the chance.

With this right here you are (ironically) demanding control over somebody else's imperatives. So the implication to me is that if only you could force people to think your way, everything would be fine.
You're making the same mistake as the sheep you criticize.

Funny thing, when I did exactly that the last few years (I'm almost 30), I abandoned my unproductive fantasies about equality and instead accepted the harsh reality. Learning how powerful perception is and how the majority perceive is a very important skill, I agree. But I guarantee you that you will not like what you find.

Personally, I doubt this is true. But its pointless to argue being no one was there and alive 3k years ago, vs 5k years, 10k years. and this is beside the point. what my point is, is we can choose to treat others equal should we be aware to see our own true nature. Those who are aware ARE capable of this and I see it in practice everyday. Not everyone in the world is like you think. I have met so many different walks of life so I feel I can reach out of my comfortzone a little here. but more or less, I think you make a valid point, and are right... most people, oppose the opposite as soon as they get the chance. yes. but that would indicate those individuals ARE NOT the ones I am trying to point out here. I am only indicating it is a matter of consciousness, awareness, maturity and integrity. One who understands he knows jack shit, has no control, and is able to accept the unwilling, is pretty much a free man walking.

I am not demanding in any way. I am only suggesting if people could NOT impose... then we would have the resolution we desire. So I agree with your statement as far as thats how people act, but I am not telling you to believe ANYTHING in particular. just that if all were to understand there is a negative, neutral, and positive position we can take, being the netrual one where it is not impossing on others. THAT is the way I live my life to this day. IDK who the hell wants to run around telling anyone else this is right or wrong, or do it this way, or what not... cause dont they have their OWN life to worry about. theres like 8 billion lives on this planet. to think about ones ego is so large they worry about everyone else? You are proving my point sir. The control - is a realization of illusion inthe first place. One who is aware already understands people are their own identity, thinking processes, their own soul. They are here ot realize just as we all are, the nature of our being.

MY biopysch professor was the one who had this lil saying in class and I really took to it at the time, because Im so sensative I can abosrb others energy so easily if I am not aware. Liking and disliking is all derived from the ego, so one who says like i this, oh this is good, or this is bad, is purely speaking from the thinking mind. They are asleep. I accepted the fact long ago, that I dont have to like or dislike and can rather seek t understand the events without the attachment to my desired outcome.

Control is a factor cause WE want things to go our way.

The problem with society is everyone - mostly , those who are not aware, wants control.

It takes a certain period of time of practices that help to remove ones self from the equation to realize their true nature in the universe. There is no way for me to tell you, to do this, think this way, to get it. Instead, I say things that could help you arrive to that realization without my attachment to said outcome. it takes two to make it work. If there person Im guiding to the light, says - well it should be this way, what should I do? say no - its this way... or say, you do what you think is right for you, and with the practice, your own soul will guide you.

Guidance is just that. its not a blueprint or a set of instructions. what some people perceive as a gift can be to others a terrible thing. and remeber both people on either side of this have that same chance of landing on said perspective. it takes two... one to be willing to let go, or empty their cup, before filling it, and the other to ensure his attachments are not being cast onto the one receiving hte guidance.

Id rather people be left alone to learn on their own, in their own time. when you meet someone who SEEKs the information or methods, THEY are the ones you want to help. The ones who show signs of immaturity, simply not even understanding the basics of interpersonal relationships, etc... you kinda just let them be till they ARE ready, asking for it.
No where in my understanding do I tell others what is. I will say, there are three paths in life you can choose to take. but the choice is always theres, no matter what I do, what I think or feel, or perceive about it.

Noone can steal your energy, just like noone can make you do something you dont want to do. Even with a gun pointed to your head, people choose for themselves. Control is regardless, NEVER has anyone EVER had control of anything in their life. we were bron without asking, we will die without asking.

If you want a more foundational approach I could simply ask if you have ever read Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. Have you ever meditated for hours on end, left your mind nad body behind to be one with Brahman...? Life is so much more than we see, and understand here. and only till we are ready will we receive the next role of responsabilities. Obviously I don't understand the end goal here, or the method, but I have an idea: we are all here to simply become aware as to the nature of our soul. the essenece buried deep within each of us is trying to express itself. the thinking mind, ego, is what 99% of the time gets in the way. So to solve problems with hte same thinking that created them, yea it seems crazy... like how could this ever happen?

im confident humans are not just on Earth, and that also in the past, we have achieved rather high states of consciousness, awareness, humbleness... understanding - rather than knowing. which leads to being rather than doing...

Sorry if I ramble I did just wake up and totally enjoy these types of conversations Smile

there are many tools we can use to help us realize this, but MOST people do not want this, ego is in control - thus I usualyl walk away.

You cannot argue with ignorance, and you cannot explain things so profound to nature and your being to others, they have to eperience it for themselves to understand, and for that to happen, they have to seek it, and much more.

edit: Maybe I see this so clearly now as I grew up in a terribly abusive and racist environment. I catch myself all the time - the automatic programming from my past>? When aware all of this hatred and ignorance of the nature of self is resolved should one be will willing to accept it.

Mostly, problmes stem from two things. love or fear. the opposing forces in the universe. which both stem from our hearts, leading to the mind, and to an action, either it be a reaction or response. In no way am I stating I am some enlightented being. No. Im saying Im dead asleep, waking up, and able to identify the source of issue. remember, emotions rise before we are aware of them especially in life or death situations or situatins that cause the same effect. arguing religion with a deep believer will cause hte mind to create the same hormones as if they are being physically attacked... so if you ever wonder why people act threatened when they are "wrong" this is why. both parties in said example would be triggering both parties and that would go no where healthy fast. Smile

Emotion means literally, to distrub. the mind distrubs the body. emotion means to feel what Im thinking. Most people today are not aware of their own thinking, which in day one basic training we learn, the brain makes an excellent slave, but a terrible master. love or fear. people dont choose, it jsut happens. when we are aware of our own nature, we can identify and choose better. sounds like you have been thru this and like me, can let things go that do not serve us, and accpet others to have differences and beliefs that may not even serve our benefit.

accept or resist. the joy or suffering in teh world stems from these two. love or fear. its not what I think or say is right, its just my way of undersatnding the mechanics. Ive read thousands of books on the matter, religions, philosophy, neurology, etc... but not all of the ideas I have read do I choose to believe! IT would be rather dangerous to belive anything we read or see or experience first hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEdDcs_8ZQ


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Magnetron - 08-19-2019


Forgive my absence, real life got in the way.

Documented human history goes back about 7000 years. All major hegemons of the day collapsed as soon as they started practicing feminism and gay rights. Babylon, Rome, Greece, etc. To be clear, things are a lot more complicated than this and they are symptoms of a societal breakdown rather than the cause of the breakdown. I had to add that disclaimer in case someone tries to use that strawman.

My bad for misinterpreting what you said about how people should think. It sounded similar to the packaged argument of "if only everybody wasn't bigoted, we will have utopia" which in practice is liberals creating authoritarian measures to micro-manage the tiniest details of everyone's lives in pursuit of this utopia which just ended up creating more bigotry, more hatred and a bigger mess.

However, the attitude you describe is harbored by few. You are a tiny minority. What you do or don't do doesn't make a difference. It's not possible to be neutral in this kind of environment because others WILL impose their will upon you one way or another and the only way to protect yourself is to have an army. The only way to have an army is to pick a side, even if you hate both sides. I fucking hate both sides. SJWs to my left and fascists to my right. So whether we like it or not, we have to side with the evil we know over the evil we don't.

My personal calculation is that the alt-right represents my interests slightly more than the SJW scum. Some completely anti-SJW people still side with the left because they find the alt-right way too abhorrent to be part of.

Quote:THAT is the way I live my life to this day. IDK who the hell wants to run around telling anyone else this is right or wrong, or do it this way, or what not... cause dont they have their OWN life to worry about. theres like 8 billion lives on this planet. to think about ones ego is so large they worry about everyone else? You are proving my point sir. The control - is a realization of illusion inthe first place. One who is aware already understands people are their own identity, thinking processes, their own soul. They are here ot realize just as we all are, the nature of our being.

That's not exactly how it works. To have a functional society, there has to be shared values, some kind of universal culture that unites everyone whether it be religion, custom, nationalism, whatever. That's why the tribe imposes its will on any member at risk of becoming alienated from the tribe. You can't survive as an individual, you are inherently dependent on the tribe. So everyone keeps everyone in line and pressures the black sheep to re-connect to the tribe.
It's not a conscious act of everyone policing everyone's behavior to the finest detail by reading from some script, it's a natural behavior. We seek like-minded people and discourage those like-minded people on the fence from hopping the fence. It's simple human nature.

About the soul and ego, there are things like acid and shrooms that can kill the ego but I have never derived a positive experience from that. Most people seek certainty and security while more intelligent people seek doubt and uncertainty.

Quote:arguing religion with a deep believer will cause hte mind to create the same hormones as if they are being physically attacked... so if you ever wonder why people act threatened when they are "wrong" this is why. both parties in said example would be triggering both parties and that would go no where healthy fast. Smile

Yes, because you are attacking the very fabric of their existence. However, everybody including atheists aspire to a greater purpose and if someone tried to undermine whatever keeps you getting up in the morning every day for, you would feel as threatened as the True Believer.
When society largely abandoned religion, did people become more intelligent? No, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of the vagina. Replace Christianity with secular liberalism, replace God with the cunt, replace the devil with Christianity, demons with pedo priests and replace the apocalypse with global warming. Things never change.

Quote:Emotion means literally, to distrub. the mind distrubs the body. emotion means to feel what Im thinking. Most people today are not aware of their own thinking, which in day one basic training we learn, the brain makes an excellent slave, but a terrible master. love or fear. people dont choose, it jsut happens. when we are aware of our own nature, we can identify and choose better. sounds like you have been thru this and like me, can let things go that do not serve us, and accpet others to have differences and beliefs that may not even serve our benefit.

I think you're less aware of your nature than you might think. As discussed before, most people are extrovert-sensates who will jump on whatever bandwagon the tribe does. Most people who believe in global warming don't do so because they did research but because the ideology of equality is most liberating for them and when they notice their tribe (liberals) does, they decide to also do so. Same thing with LGBT rights.

As introverts, appeasing to the tribe is less of an imperitive to us since we don't really have one. We have nothing to lose as we've already been outcasted. That gives you and me increased opportunities to question things and to introspect. On the other hand, I believe it gives us the illusion of self-awareness rather than any tangible advantage over the common sheep. We are still social animals. An introverted human being still has a pack mentality. When push comes to shove, we are just as irrational, instinctual and emotional as everyone else.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - Tibo inc - 08-19-2019

This is the single most closed mind stance I have ever seen anywhere in the internet.

I am not gay, I don't fully understand the mechanics of being gay, but I am not prejudice against gays at all.

I personally believe this view is that way it should be for everyone. You may not be fully understanding of it, but you should by no means discriminate or spread the idea something is wrong with being gay.

Your post contradicts itself, you state that being gay is a product of genetics, or as you call it an "error".

Then you go on to state that you can be "turned" gay by your parents.

Being gay is genetic, there is nothing you can do, it isn't a choice.

People like the OP shouldn't be allowed on the internet to spread their negative views and opinions to others.


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - fsociety - 08-19-2019

(03-24-2017, 03:02 AM)meow Wrote: Homosexuals deserve the privilege of having the same legal rights and societal treatement as heterosexuals, state your position on the prompt and explain why you take that stance. Your posts may be subject to refutation or criticism.

I disagree, here's why.

Spoiler:

i never agree
If homosexuality is comparable to infertility, then it is a disability.
If homosexuality is comparable to straight people engaging in oral sex, then it is a fetish.
If homosexuality is comparable to friendships with the same gender, why do they have sex?
If homosexuality is safe, why do homosexuals spread the most STDs and literally tear apart each others’ sphincters?
If homosexuality is a valid means of romantic bonding, why does nature disallow them reproduction?
If homosexual “love” is as pure as natural love, why are gays so much more promiscuous?
If there is nothing inherently wrong with being a homosexual, why would an entirely homosexual society cease to exist beyond a single generation?

The fact of the matter is that homosexuality is a byproduct of genetic errors in nature. Errors occur in nature all the time, and homosexuality is a perfect example of error. Somewhere in the brain of every homosexual a critical error has occurred. In what other situation is an error encouraged or rewarded as it is in homosexuality in today’s media? You may ask yourself how this error affects you. The answer is simple. Homosexuality, despite what you are told to believe, can be indoctrinated. Why do you think the rate of children who “turn out” gay skyrockets in the presence of gay “parents”? The push for indoctrination within recent years has been quite evident through the use of protests, pride marches, and even homosexual characters being placed within children's movies and cartoons. The ironic side of it is that heterosexual pride marches are shunned and spoken out against by the homosexual community, yet heterosexuals shouldn't be allowed to do the same to homosexuals. If that isn't an obvious sign of indoctrination then I don't know what is.

Facts About the Dangers of Homosexuality

Abused "More Likely to Be Gay"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3949087/Abused-more-likely-to-be-gay

Alcohol and Drug Use Among Homosexual Men and Women

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2589133

Anal Cancer Rise in Gay Men Prompts Calls for Vaccinations

http://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/anal-cancer-rise-in-gay-men-prompts-calls-for-vaccinations

College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Young Girls

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CDC: 94 to 95 Percent of HIV Cases Among Young Men Linked to Gay Sex

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdc-94-to-95-percent-of-hiv-cases-among-boys-and-young-men-linked-to-gay-se

CDC Warns Gay Men of 'Epidemic' HIV Rates

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/epidemic-1-2-of-gay-men-will-have-hiv-by-age-50-if-current-rates-continue-w

Drug Use "Seven Times Higher" Among Gays

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Estimates of New HIV Infections in the United States, 2007-2010

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/2012/HIVIncidenceGraphics.html

Higher Risk of Mental Health Problems for Homosexuals

http://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-of-mental-health-problems-for-homosexuals/0006527

HIV Among Homosexual and Bisexual Men

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/

HIV in the United States

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/

HIV Increase Among Black Gays Called 'Alarming'

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-07-22/gay-aids-epidemic/56431798/1

HIV Infected Man 'Hooking Up' on Websites Faces Charges for Intentionally Spreading Disease

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Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - The Myth is Collapsing

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103899573/Homosexuality-in-Ancient-Greece-The-Myth-is-Collapsing

Homosexual Men Have Fifty Times Higher Rate of AIDS

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#incidence

Homosexual Men Twice as Likely to Have Cancer

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/homosexual-men-twice-as-likely-to-have-cancer-study

Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away

http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/#.UQi3X12lxQI

How Different are the Adult Children of Parents who Have Same-Sex Relationships?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible'

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

New Research on Same-Sex Households Reveals Kids Do Best With Mom and Dad

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/02/14417/

One in Five Homosexual, Bisexual Men in U.S. Cities Has HIV

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/23/us-aids-usa-idUSTRE68M3H220100923

Pedophiles Want Same Rights as Homosexuals

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Plato, Laws, Section 636c

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Populations at Higher Risk for HIV: Route of Transmission

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVFactSheets/Epidemic/Transmission.htm

The Removal of Homosexuality from the Psychiatric Manual

http://cssronline.org/CSSR/Archival/2001/Nicolosi_71-78.pdf

Report Finds Black Homosexual Males in U.S. Worst Hit By HIV-AIDS

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/report-finds-black-gay-males-us-worst-hit-161752246.html

Statistics on Sexual Promiscuity Among Homosexuals

http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

STD Facts - Syphilis & MSM

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm

Syphilis Makes a Worrying Comeback in U.S.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/sexual-health/syphilis-makes-worrying-comeback-u-s-n100606

Viral Hepatitis Populations - Men Who Have Sex with Men

http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Populations/msm.htm

WHO Warns HIV 'Exploding' Among Gay Men, Urges Preventive Drugs

http://www.afp.com/en/news/who-warns-hiv-exploding-among-gay-men-urges-preventive-drugs

Facts About the Dangers of Homosexuality (From Sources You'll Probably Dismiss Out of Hand)

Child Molestation and Homosexuality

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/child-molestation-and-homosexuality-2/

Deadly Meningitis Outbreak Hits NYC Gay Community

http://www.inquisitr.com/585603/deadly-meningitis-outbreak-hits-nyc-gay-community/

Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuals

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02rStatistcs.html

Frightening Gay Statistics

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/frightening_gay_statistics.htm

Gay Youths 148% More Likely to Be Physically Abused in Relationships: DOJ-Funded Report

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-youths-148-more-likely-to-be-physically-abused-in-relationships-doj-fun

Health Risks - Fisting and Other Homosexual Practices

http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html

HIV+ Homosexual Men 9000% More Likely to Develop Anal Cancer

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2007/mar/07032205

HIV/AIDS is Predominately a Homosexual Disease

http://savecalifornia.com/hiv-aids-is-predominately-a-homosexual-disease.html

Homosexuality and Mental Health Problems

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Men Having Sex with Men at Far Greater Risk for Cancer, STD's, Infections

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/men-having-sex-with-men-at-far-greater-risk-for-cancer-stds-infections-syst

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

New Study On Homosexual Parents Tops All Previous Research

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

Statistics on Sexual Promiscuity Among Homosexuals

http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

Study Confirms Gay Life Expectancy Twenty Years Shorter

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2005/jun/05060606

Syphilis Rates Soar 134% Among Homosexual Black Men

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/syphilis-rates-soar-134-among-homosexual-black-men-fall-among-general-popul/

Study Shows Homosexual Parenting Not Equal to Heterosexual Marriage

http://www.c-fam.org/fridayfax/volume-15/study-shows-homosexual-parenting-not-equal-to-heterosexual-marriage.html

What Research Shows - NARTH's Response to the APA Claims on Homosexuality

http://www.narth.com/docs/journalsummary.html

Homosexual Indoctrination

A Boys' Camp to Redefine Gender

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/07/15/_you_are_you_looks_at_a_gender_nonconforming_camp_for_boys_photos.html

ABC Hires Gay Activist to Write Eight Hour Miniseries About the History of the Gay Rights Movement

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abc-hires-gay-activist-to-write-8-hour-miniseries-about-the-history-of-the

Behind the Rhetoric: The Social Goals of GLBT  Advocacy in Corporate America

http://carlospr.com/uploads/Behind_The_Rhetoric.pdf

Can We Please Just Start Admitting That We Do Actually Want to Indoctrinate Kids

http://www.queerty.com/can-we-please-just-start-admitting-that-we-do-actually-want-to-indoctrinate-kids-20110512/

CBS Execs Meet with Transgender Activists to Promote Positive TV Portrayals

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cbs-execs-meet-with-transgender-activists-to-promote-positive-tv-portrayals

CW Developing Drama About Transgender Teenager from Producer Michael London

http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/cw-developing-drama-about-transgender-teenager-produced-by-michael-london/

FCKH8 is Mailing 10,000 Pro-Gay Coloring Books to Kids in Russia During the Olympics

http://fckh8.3dcartstores.com/Coloring-Book_ep_41-1.html

Grammys to Feature On-Air Weddings of 34 Couples

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/artsbeat/2014/01/26/grammys-wedding-macklemore-ryan-lewis-queen-latifah/?from=artsbeat

Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage

http://illinoisfamily.org/homosexuality/homosexual-activist-admits-true-purpose-of-battle-is-to-destroy-marriage/

The Homosexual Propaganda Campaign in America's Media

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/gay_strategies/after_the_ball.html

Inclusive Sex Education is Vital – and British Schools Aren't Delivering It

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/inclusive-sex-education-vital-british-schools-peter-tatchell

Media Exposure and Viewers' Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08838150902908049

The Media is Not Biased Toward Homosexual Marriage. It is Promoting it.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/04/the-media-is-not-biased-toward-gay-marriage-it-is-promoting-it/

The Overhauling of Straight America

http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Queering Agriculture?

http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon0205hm.html

The Rampant Promotion of Homosexuality in Movies and Television

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/promotinghomosexuality26nov11.shtml

The Real Homosexual Agenda is on Your TV and Movie Screens

http://www.gcmwatch.com/7409/the-real-gay-agenda-is-on-your-tv-and-movie-screens

Study: Watching Porn Boosts Support for Homosexual Marriage

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/4/study-watching-porn-boosts-support-gay-marriage/

Heterosexual Oppression By Homosexuals and Their Supporters

AIDS Expert Fired for Testifying Gay Sex is Harmful to Public Health

http://www.charismanews.com/us/43941-aids-expert-fired-for-testifying-gay-sex-is-harmful-to-public-health

Air Force Sergeant Claims He was Fired for Refusing to Endorse Gay Marriage: Faces Court Martial

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/air-force-sergeant-claims-he-was-fired-for-refusing-to-endorse-gay-marriage

Ashers Baking Company: 'Gay Cake' Row Could End Up in Court

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28206581

Chaplains Group Investigating Claims Army Threatened Chaplain Over Facebook Post on Homosexuality

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/chaplains-group-investigating-claims-army-threatened-chaplain-over-facebook

Denmark Forces Churches to Perform Same-Sex 'Marriages'

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/denmark-forces-churches-to-perform-same-sex-marriages

'Duck Dynasty' Star Suspended for Anti-Gay Remarks

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/showbiz/duck-dynasty-suspension/

Fox Sports Football Announcer Fired Over 2011 Remarks on Homosexuality

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fox-sports-football-announcer-fired-over-2011-remarks-on-homosexuality

Gay Activists Launch Complaint Against Teacher Who Included Homosexuality on List of Possible Sins

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-activists-launch-complaint-against-teacher-who-included-homosexuality-o

Gay Danish Couples Win Right to Marry in Church

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

Gay Couple Suing Church for Refusing Wedding

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-still-not-getting-what-i-want-gay-couple-suing-church-for-refusing-wed

Girls Threatened With Hate Crime Charges for Complaining About Transgender Bathroom Harassment

http://www.infowars.com/girls-threatened-with-hate-crime-charges-for-complaining-about-transgender-bathroom-harassment/

Grandmother Who Refused to Make Gay Wedding Floral Arrangements Could Lose House, Life Savings After Guilty Verdict

http://www.christianpost.com/news/grandmother-who-refused-to-make-gay-wedding-floral-arrangements-could-lose-house-life-savings-after-guilty-verdict-134480/

Idaho City's Ordinance Tells Pastors to Marry Gays or Go to Jail

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/

Judge Orders Baker to Serve Gay Couples Despite His Religious Beliefs

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/06/judge-orders-baker-to-serve-gay-couples-despite-his-religious-beliefs/

Millionaire Gay Couple is Suing to Force a Church to Hold Their Wedding

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/millionaire-gay-couple-suing-force-church-hold-wedding/#axzz345ykyhui

New Mexico Supreme Court: Christian Photographers Must Shoot Homosexual Commitment Ceremony

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nm-supreme-court-justice-compromising-religion-on-gay-marriage-is-the-price

NY Farm Owners Fined $13,000 for Refusing to Host Same-Sex Wedding

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/11/10/ny-farm-owners-fined-13-000-for-refusing-to-host-same-sex-wedding/

Oregon Business Must Pay $150,000 to Homosexual Couple for Refusing to Bake a Cake

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/02/oregon-business-must-pay-150000-to-homosexual-couple-for-refusing-to-bake-a-cake/

Portland Bar Owner Must Pay $400K for Kicking Transgender Patrons Out of Bar

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/portland-bar-owner-must-pay-400000-for-kicking-transgender-patrons-out-of-b

Scottish Man Fined $62K for ‘Homophobic’ Twitter Message

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/scottish-man-fined-62000-for-homophobic-twitter-message

Sharia Law or Gay Marriage Critics Would Be Branded 'Extremists' Under Tory Plans, Atheists and Christians Warn

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11202290/Sharia-law-or-gay-marriage-critics-would-be-branded-extremists-under-Tory-plans-atheists-and-Christians-warn.html

Student Suspended for Saying Homosexuality is Wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZENOCaGRKjs

Students Suspended for Wearing Confederate Flags to Protest Gay Rainbow Flag

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/14/students-suspended-for-wearing-confederate-flags-to-protest-gay-rainbow-flag/#ixzz2hnRw0hXk

Thousands Petition Against "19 Kids and Counting" for LGBTQ "Fear Mongering"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-petition-against-19-kids-and-counting-for-lgbtq-fear-mongering/

Transgender Anchor Sues BET for $2.5 Million Because He Couldn't Host Segment in Drag

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/transgender-anchor-sues-bet-for-2.5-million-because-he-couldnt-host-segment

Transgender Man Wins Complaint Against Bridal Shop for Not Letting Him Try on Wedding Dress

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/transgender-man-wins-complaint-against-bridal-shop-for-not-letting-him-try

Washington Florist Sued for Refusing to Provide Flowers for Same-Sex Wedding

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/washington-florist-sued-refusing-provide-flowers-sex-wedding/story?id=18922065

Homosexuality is a Choice

Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is No Genetic

http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

Just Over 2% Tell CDC They Are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/15/gay-lesbian-bisexual-cdc-survey/12671717/

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay

http://americanvision.org/8136/new-twin-study-people-not-born-gay/

No One is Born Gay

http://www.nooneisborngay.com/

Proof You Can't be 'Born Gay'

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/why-you-cant-be-born-gay/

Homosexuality is Degenerate

Degenerate

de·gen·er·ate

[v. dih-jen-uh-reyt; adj., n. dih-jen-er-it]

verb, de·gen·er·at·ed, de·gen·er·at·ing, adjective, noun

verb (used without object)

1. To fall below a normal or desirable level in physical, mental, or moral qualities; deteriorate: The morale of the soldiers degenerated, and they were unable to fight.

2. To diminish in quality, especially from a former state of coherence, balance, integrity, etc.: The debate degenerated into an exchange of insults.

3. Pathology . to lose functional activity, as a tissue or organ.

4. Evolution. (of a species or any of its traits or structures) to revert to a simple, less highly organized, or less functionally active type, as a parasitic plant that has lost its taproot or the vestigial wings of a flightless bird.

verb (used with object)

5. to cause degeneration in; bring about a decline, deterioration, or reversion in.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Degenerate?s=t


ABC's 'Bachelor' Juan Pablo Galavis Says Gays Shouldn't Be on the Show

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/abcs-bachelor-juan-pablo-galavis-672100

>"They're more pervert in a sense. To me, the show would be too strong, too hard to watch on TV," said the reality star.

Bug Chasing: Why Some Men Want to Become HIV Positive

http://voices.yahoo.com/bug-chasing-why-some-men-want-become-hiv-positive-10487.html?cat=5

Dallas: Police and Pride Organizers Say No 'Lewdness' or Nudity

http://dailyxtra.com/world/news/around-the-web/dallas-police-and-pride-organizers-say-lewdness-nudity?market=206

Folsom Street Fair 2007

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

Folsom Street Fair 2010-2013

http://www.photos-biron.com/folsom11/index0.html

Gay Student to Lose His Virginity in Live Sex Performance for Art

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/gay-student-virginity-sex_n_4163730.html?ir=Gay+Voices

Inside the Meth-Fueled, Week-Long Orgies Plaguing London's Gay Scene

http://www.queerty.com/meth-fueled-gay-orgies-london-20130606/

Jizz on the Rocks: Introducing Semen-Infused Cocktails

http://www.queerty.com/jizz-on-the-rocks-introducing-semen-infused-cocktails-20131022/

A Porn Director Stirred Up Controversy by Making a Movie Centered Around HIV

http://www.vice.com/read/director-paul-morris-believes-hiv-should-be-part-of-gay-porn

Two Men, 58 Years and Counting. A Love Story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/nyregion/58-years-and-counting-a-love-story.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

>“Unbelievable,” he said. “And the toilets in the subways — in those days if you traveled, say, 14th Street to 59th Street, you had to make at least three stops on the way, to check out every toilet. “And there was always gay activity going on in the toilets. And I think it cost a nickel to get in in those days.”

Up Your Alley 2008

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/

Vancouver Police, Officials Would Not Uphold Laws Against Public Nudity at Pride Parade

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vancouver-police-officials-would-not-uphold-laws-against-public-nudity-at-p

The Real Slippery Slope

Bestiality Brothels are 'Spreading Through Germany' Warns Campaigner as Abusers Turn to Sex with Animals as 'Lifestyle Choice'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2352779/Bestiality-brothels-spreading-Germany-campaigner-claims-abusers-sex-animals-lifestyle-choice.html

Germany Urges Paedophiles Out of the Shadows

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33464970

I'm a Pedophile, But Not a Monster

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/

I'm a Pedophile, You're the Monsters

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/

Is Incest Wrong?

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/is-incest-wrong

Is Pedophilia a Sexual Orientation?

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013/12/22/is_pedophilia_a_sexual_orientation.html

Is Polygamy Next?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/opinion/is-polygamy-next.html

It's Time to Legalize Polygamy

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/gay-marriage-decision-polygamy-119469.html

Lawmaker: Pedophilia, Bestiality Equal to Homosexuality

http://www.diversityinc.com/news/lawmaker-pedophilia-bestiality-equal-homosexuality/

Pedophiles Want Same Rights as Homosexuals

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

Pedophilia a 'Sexual Orientation' Experts Tell Parliament

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pedophilia-a-sexual-orientation-experts-tell-parliament

Pedophilia the Next 'Sexual-Rights' Revolution?

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/pedophilia-the-next-sexual-rights-revolution/

Polygamous Montana Trio Applies for Wedding License

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765676597/Polygamous-Montana-trio-applies-for-wedding-license.html

Stanford Law Prof: No Marriage Equality Until Polygamy and Adult Incest Legalized

http://blog.speakupmovement.org/university/marriage/stanford-law-prof-no-marriage-equality-until-polygamy-and-adult-incest-legalized/  

Those Who Practice Bestiality Say They're Part of the Next Sexual Rights Movement

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/those-who-practice-bestiality-say-theyre-part-of-the-next-sexual-rights-movement-6334747

University Academics Say Pedophilia is 'Natural, and Normal for Males to Be Aroused By Children'

http://truthuncensored.net/university-academics-say-pedophilia-is-natural-for-males-aroused-by-children/


I believe that, instead of enabling their actions by normalizing and glorifying homosexuality, homosexuals should be seeking therapeutic help. Giving beer to an alcoholic does not solve their drinking problem. Providing food for an overeater does not solve their eating problem. Taking a gambler to a casino does not solve their gambling problem.

i never agree that girl to girl and boy to boy . we are destroying are nature nothing god made male and female only not homosexual shit on this planet .but we cannot do anything now because law is supporting such kind of things. Confused Confused Confused


RE: Homosexuality [DEBATE] - runyservices - 04-15-2021

the real question would be what do homosexuals contribute to the betterment of society?