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RE: Where to start with hacking! - Anima Templi - 10-06-2013
You can hack on pretty much any device you can find. You don't need top notch specs. So my answer will be "yes".
RE: Where to start with hacking! - GothamusArch - 10-15-2013
This is a fantastic thread, and I am very inspired, hopefully with the right attitude some of us can become pioneers in some form. "excited for days"
To the so-called “noobs”, (though I am not a fan of that expression) who reads this:[/b]
I hope I have inspired you to begin at hacking. I hope that I have cleared things up a little bit, so it does not seem so messy anymore. If you have any questions or something you did not understand, I would gladly explain it to you again. As one last thing, I would HIGHLY recommend you to become a white hat hacker. Welcome to the hacker’s world, a new world will open up for you and you will never regret that you chose to become a hacker.
RE: Where to start with hacking! - cL1kz0r - 10-16-2013
Which OS you think is best for hacking?
Which Distro to be more particular..
RE: Where to start with hacking! - chmod - 10-16-2013
(10-16-2013, 04:54 PM)cl1kz0r Wrote: Which OS you think is best for hacking?
Which Distro to be more particular..
The distro itself is not that important as Linux is extremely customizable meaning you could take any distribution and do pretty much whatever you like with it. Each one has small differences such as package managers and the software and window managers they ship with but deep down there isn't much difference. The goal is to find something you like and then mold that into whatever you need it to do.
RE: Where to start with hacking! - cL1kz0r - 10-16-2013
(10-16-2013, 05:06 PM)chmod Wrote:(10-16-2013, 04:54 PM)cl1kz0r Wrote: Which OS you think is best for hacking?
Which Distro to be more particular..
The distro itself is not that important as Linux is extremely customizable meaning you could take any distribution and do pretty much whatever you like with it. Each one has small differences such as package managers and the software and window managers they ship with but deep down there isn't much difference. The goal is to find something you like and then mold that into whatever you need it to do.
Oh , alright thanks for the quick reply , This also lead me to another question
So Basically I have two computers , a dekstop and a laptop ,
So what do you thing should be the best combo of two OSes? eg Windows on PC or Linux on laptop?
Since you cleared out my distro doubt , I'm left with three options - Windows , Mac(leave hackintosh to me :3) and Linux.
Linux I think is obviously up there , the question is , which between Mac & Windows..?
Like both are very less customizable but Mac atleast got a terminal?
So basically I wanted to ask that what should I use for hacking? and if there could be some important hack tools / utilities that are present on Mac but not on Windows or Vice Versa?
-Thanks
RE: Where to start with hacking! - chmod - 10-16-2013
(10-16-2013, 05:37 PM)cl1kz0r Wrote: Oh , alright thanks for the quick reply , This also lead me to another question
So Basically I have two computers , a dekstop and a laptop ,
So what do you thing should be the best combo of two OSes? eg Windows on PC or Linux on laptop?
Since you cleared out my distro doubt , I'm left with three options - Windows , Mac(leave hackintosh to me :3) and Linux.
Linux I think is obviously up there , the question is , which between Mac & Windows..?
Like both are very less customizable but Mac atleast got a terminal?
So basically I wanted to ask that what should I use for hacking? and if there could be some important hack tools / utilities that are present on Mac but not on Windows or Vice Versa?
-Thanks
Me personally I wouldn't use either for the simple fact my Linux machine does everything I need it to do. If I really need to use a Windows application I use WINE.
Windows doesn't have a terminal but it does have a command prompt - less feature packed but does the job. If I had to choose one I would go for the mac but again I'm biased towards hating Microsoft so this is opinion only. Although the Mac would inherently be more secure and like Linux is based off UNIX. As I said I don't bother with either so I can't really point you to any tools or applications but that shouldn't matter anyway as you should be aiming at being able to code your own.
RE: Where to start with hacking! - Mil0s - 10-16-2013
Hello,
Here is additional information through technical and criminological approaches "in the field" that might be helpful on the term "hackers/hacking".
There are 9 main attacker categories as they are profiled in the point of view of the targets.
Lamers, script-kiddies, industrial spies, hackers....for the mass, they are all the same, depending on the motivation. (from source).
Wannabe (Lamer)
The “wannabe,” often labelled a “lamer,” is the “I would love to be a hacker” kind. They use hacker techniques without neither knowing nor having the curiosity to learn how they actually function. They use “hacker toolkits,” which can be downloaded for free from Internet; these toolkits automate processes otherwise made manually and in a “creative” way by more experienced hackers (and that often include mistakes and backdoors). They post a huge amount of messages on forums and BBSs (Bulletin Board Systems), asking other hackers to teach them how to become a real hacker. They want to learn to be hacker without really being one, and often their actions result in huge damages to some computer system or network.
Script kiddie
The “script kid” term stands for “the boy from the scripts,” meaning those hackers relaying on UNIX/Linux shell scripts written by others. They lack technical skills and sophistication, and the ones least capable are called “point-and-clickers,” since their attacks are called “point-and-click attacks.” They are interested only in the result and not in learning how computer and hacking techniques work. They simply download from Internet (or from the “crews” they belong to) software and hacker tools, and follow the related instructions. A very good example of this profile was “Mafia Boy”, a 14 years-old kid arrested on Montreal, Canada, after running DDoS (Distributed Denial-of-Service) attacks to e-Bay, Amazon, Yahoo! back in 2000.
Cracker
The term “cracker” was created around the beginning of the ‘90s, when the hacker community wanted to somehow differentiate the malicious (or lame) actions highlighted by the media, from the serious hacker research done by many underground groups such as CCC, L0pht, THC and so on.
Generally speaking, crackers have good technical skills, which allow them to pursue their purposes; in the last years, nevertheless, due to the different players in the cybercrime arena (particularly when referring to skimming and phishing activities), we have also found crackers with poor or average technical background and field skills. Note also that they are different from the so called “software crackers” who crack software protection to reproduce it illegally (a.k.a. software cracking): this was something very in vogue back in the ‘90s, and it is still employed in many Asian and African countries.
Ethical Hacker
“Ethical hacker” is not just a term, but it designates an entire debate both in the underground community and in the information security market. An ethical hacker is somebody with excellent hacking skills, whose “past life” may have been with the bad or with the good guys, who decides to help the community, digging with software and discovering bugs and mistakes in widely (or poorly) used IT infrastructures (i.e. social networks), protocols or applications.
They are creative hackers, since they try not to use software created by others and they prefer creating it by themselves (scripts, exploits and/or 0-days) or improving it when there are no useful programmes for their attacks. They would prefer a manual attack rather than an automated one, and this is something to carefully note and a rule to apply to your IDS (Intrusion Detection System)! Ethical hackers are also highly sophisticated and specialised in different operating systems, networks and attack techniques: this means they can range from Sun Solaris, HP/UX or OpenVMS to Microsoft Windows.
QPS (Quiet, Paranoid, Skilled Hacker)
If this type of attacker are on a system, and if they have just a remote feeling that they may be caught, they will disappear. This kind of hackers attack IT systems not because they are looking for information, but perhaps because they just love that particular release of HP/UX that one is running, or loves a SS7 backbone.
The QPS are creative hackers, using as little as possible software made by others, since they prefer creating them by themselves. They are similar to Ethical hackers on a lot of issues.
Cyber-warrior/Mercenary
This is one of those categories that appeared in the last few years because of Internet’s globalization and of the “hacktivism” phenomenon. Cyber-warriors feel like heroes from their own environment (i.e. an extremist group with political or religious background). Their skills may vary substantially, from basic ones of a script kid to good or excellent ones, especially when specialized on focused areas (i.e. DDoS, or Web Defacing, or Wi-Fi).
Not being “exposed” in the business environment like the Industrial Spy profile, the Mercenary hacker works on commission, getting money to attack specific targets. A lot of the well-known Russian mobs (such as the RBN, the Russian Business Network) use this kind of elements to support their illegal activities
Industrial Spy Hacker
The practice of industrial espionage had existed as long as business itself, infiltrating spies in companies throughout the years, and walking out of them with information stored on paper files, microfilms, floppy disks, cd-roms and, today, USB keys or emails.
Nevertheless, the recent scandals of industrial espionage that have emerged in the last years surely involve Industrial Spy Hackers, which modernized this practice taking advantage of the new opportunities brought in by Information technology.
Government Agent Hacker
Nowadays the existing information technology and the granularity itself of information allow external attackers from governments to run highly-sophisticated attacks, specifically focused towards nations’ know-how in different business markets.
Military Hacker
When the HPP research team introduced this kind of profile back in 2004, the reactions we received were doubtful: it appeared we had gone “too far.” Unfortunately, history seems to confirm our assumptions, given the latest waves of “information warfare” highlighted in the newspapers from all over the world.
This profile is also often associated with the term “state-sponsored attack,” which effectively represents the logic and the approach behind those attacks run by Military hackers.
Best regards,
RE: Where to start with hacking! - Anima Templi - 10-17-2013
(10-16-2013, 05:37 PM)cl1kz0r Wrote:(10-16-2013, 05:06 PM)chmod Wrote:(10-16-2013, 04:54 PM)cl1kz0r Wrote: Which OS you think is best for hacking?
Which Distro to be more particular..
The distro itself is not that important as Linux is extremely customizable meaning you could take any distribution and do pretty much whatever you like with it. Each one has small differences such as package managers and the software and window managers they ship with but deep down there isn't much difference. The goal is to find something you like and then mold that into whatever you need it to do.
Oh , alright thanks for the quick reply , This also lead me to another question
So Basically I have two computers , a dekstop and a laptop ,
So what do you thing should be the best combo of two OSes? eg Windows on PC or Linux on laptop?
Since you cleared out my distro doubt , I'm left with three options - Windows , Mac(leave hackintosh to me :3) and Linux.
Linux I think is obviously up there , the question is , which between Mac & Windows..?
Like both are very less customizable but Mac atleast got a terminal?
So basically I wanted to ask that what should I use for hacking? and if there could be some important hack tools / utilities that are present on Mac but not on Windows or Vice Versa?
-Thanks
I can answer your question with in a very simple way. Do you game? If you want to game, I would pick Windows. Otherwise I would simply go for Linux on both machines.
RE: Where to start with hacking! - cL1kz0r - 10-17-2013
Quote:I can answer your question with in a very simple way. Do you game? If you want to game, I would pick Windows. Otherwise I would simply go for Linux on both machines.
No I quit up gaming... I think its useless and will end up nowhere.. what I do use still , however , is Unity 3d which has support for Mac as well as Linux..
RE: Where to start with hacking! - Anima Templi - 10-17-2013
(10-17-2013, 11:12 AM)cL1kz0r Wrote:Quote:I can answer your question with in a very simple way. Do you game? If you want to game, I would pick Windows. Otherwise I would simply go for Linux on both machines.
No I quit up gaming... I think its useless and will end up nowhere.. what I do use still , however , is Unity 3d which has support for Mac as well as Linux..
I don't see any reasons for installing OS X on anything else than Apple devices. I do use OS X myself (I own a MacBook) and it's great for what I do. But if you want to do any serious security related work you will have to use Linux. But I can't force you to anything nor will I try, but i have given you my cent.