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RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - shp0ngl3 - 05-23-2013

This interesting Smile I'm glad you've found your way and what you want to do. I'm not a religious person myself, but I find it interesting trying to understand what they are all about. I did read "The satanic bible" by Anton LaVey some years back.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if I recall correctly he started as a church organist right? But also playing in amusement parks seeing men together with prostitutes on Friday and Saturday, then with their wife and kids in church on Sunday so he decided that he didn't want to be a part of such hypocrisy and he went on and establishing the Church of Satan later on.

The way I remember the satanic religion and its philosophy, it says something in the lines of:
We are all just humans and we're allowed to make mistakes. The important thing is that if we make a mistake we learn from it and do anything we can to not repeat that mistake.

It doesn't force you to come crawling on you knees to beg for forgiveness like other religions demands.

It's been a while since I read that book, so this is how I recall it, so please correct any flaws in my memory Smile


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - Evangelist - 05-23-2013

What he actually says is:
“The Satanist realizes that man, and the action and reaction of the universe, is responsible for everything, and doesn't mislead himself into thinking that someone cares. No longer will we sit back and accept "fate" without doing anything about it, just because it says so in Chapter such and such, Psalm so and so - and that's that! The Satanist knows that praying does absolutely no good - in fact, it actually lessens the chance of success, for the devoutly religious too often sit back complacently and pray for a situation which, if they were to do something about it on their own, could be accomplished much quicker!

The Satanist shuns terms such as "hope" and "prayer" as they are indicative of apprehension. If we hope and pray for something to come about, we will not act in a positive way which will make it happen. The Satanist, realizing that anything he gets is of his own doing, takes command of the situation instead of praying to God for it to happen. Positive thinking and positive action add up to results.

Just as the Satanist does not pray to God for assistance, he does not pray for forgiveness for his wrong doings. In other religions, when one commits a wrong he either prays to God for forgiveness, or confesses to an intermediary and asks him to pray to God for forgiveness for his sins. The Satanist knows that praying does no good, confessing to another human being, like himself, accomplishes even less - and is, furthermore, degrading.

When a Satanist commits a wrong, he realizes that it is natural to make a mistake - and if he is truly sorry about what he has done, he will learn from it and take care not to do the same thing again. If he is not honestly sorry about what he has done and knows he will do the same thing over and over, he has no business confessing and asking forgiveness in the first place. But this is exactly what happens. People confess their sins so that they can clear their consciences - and be free to go out and sin again, usually the same sin.”


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - i0xIllusi0n - 05-23-2013

(05-23-2013, 09:33 AM)Customer Wrote: I never implied that I was speaking to you. The post above that I quoted you. The actual post that you think I said about you, I didn't quote you. What does that tell you?

You clearly implied it towards me, you can't deny it. No matter how much you try.


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - Customer - 05-24-2013

(05-23-2013, 07:47 PM)i0xIllusi0n Wrote: You clearly implied it towards me, you can't deny it. No matter how much you try.

No, I did not. If you would actually understand, I wasn't impying it towards you, I was implying it towards everyone.


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - i0xIllusi0n - 05-24-2013

(05-24-2013, 03:27 PM)Customer Wrote: No, I did not. If you would actually understand, I wasn't impying it towards you, I was implying it towards everyone.

You made it seen as if it was towards me, is what I'm saying.


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - Customer - 05-24-2013

(05-24-2013, 03:40 PM)i0xIllusi0n Wrote: You made it seen as if it was towards me, is what I'm saying.

I apologies if I did, I didn't mean it towards you. Maybe it did sound directed towards you, but trust me, It wasn't my intention.


RE: Taking the Last step on my religious journey. - i0xIllusi0n - 05-25-2013

(05-24-2013, 04:34 PM)Customer Wrote: I apologies if I did, I didn't mean it towards you. Maybe it did sound directed towards you, but trust me, It wasn't my intention.

Thank you for the acknowledgement. Not found too often.