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RE: whaaat? Another "What language should I learn" thead? For real? Damnit Roger... - bitm0de - 12-29-2016
(12-29-2016, 12:00 AM)roger_smith Wrote:(12-28-2016, 11:46 PM)bitm0de Wrote:(12-28-2016, 08:55 PM)roger_smith Wrote: Because that doesn't stir much conversation now, does it? It wouldn't give you a thread to share you opinion about re-reading threads on, and we couldn't have that now, could we?
If that's what you're really worried about (and I doubt that is the case here -- you more likely just wanted your own thread to have your own responses), then you could have just replied to one of the older threads with relevant questions you had in regards to the responses already given to expand on the topic, rather than starting from scratch and receiving the same types of responses over and over. Now that would make a bit more sense wouldn't it? Additionally, not only would newer members have the opportunity to respond to you directly, they would be able to respond to the replies already given to expand upon what has already been said in those threads (that you haven't read since you're posting this again).
Furthermore, you still haven't mentioned why you wanted to learn a new programming language or what you would be using it for -- but you would have seen which languages are best for certain things if you bothered to read the existing threads most likely too. If you're doing web development, you're not going to go with C++, and if you're doing desktop development you're not going to go with PHP... Hence the reason why I haven't bothered putting much thought into a relevant response for this thread yet.
lol this guy...
If you knew anything about the rules around here, you'd know that grave-digging is a thing that is frowned upon.
You're awfully triggered by my asking a question and starting a discussion on a discussion forum. How dare I, right? You've yet to offer any actual useful advice or suggestions.
I'm not big on "years of service" and seniority and all that, but this isn't my first run around on this forum. I'm a fairly well liked and respected member here, I spent about a year as a Moderator/Staff, and I know first hand how important activity is on this forum. My asking a question not only helps me get a few answers or ideas of direction, but it also helps to generate additional activity around here.
If this thread bothers you that much, the easiest thing is to click onward to the next one, and ignore this one.
Cheers friend.
Spoiler:
What's wrong with gravedigging an old thread if it doesn't do any harm? If there's contribution to an old thread, what's the difference over having a new thread with all of the same information in it? Explain why it's frowned upon? Also, I'm about 100% sure that gravedigging is frowned upon because of the fact that the majority of people gravedig without a purpose to say things like "thx", and not that gravedigging itself is bad. Sorry, but even SEO doesn't work this way either, so there's no difference (aside from the fact that people who have probably answered the previous threads like this will probably provide the same responses). Denying people from gravedigging altogether is like a safeguard to avoid the potential of people who don't know how to do it properly; bumping a thread for absolutely no reason. What if I created a thread where I released some software? Over 5 years of development you'd expect me to create dozens of new threads for each release with a short description on what I've changed? Lol... I can see you've thought this out well before just throwing the rulebook at me.
Posts #2 and #3 from this forum I googled explain the exact reason why I don't consider it bad: http://niketalk.com/t/333526/gravedigging-can-someone-tell-me-why-is-it-so-bad ... I consider the typical idea of spam gravedigging bad. If you're incapable of thinking for yourself, I'm sure you'll still disagree however. Undoubtedly, it's still an enforced rule for stupid members that don't know when or when not to create a new thread or to post in an existing one. There are much larger forums than this that don't have a problem with it for these reasons, but that might be because they have a more mature memberbase too with people that are wise enough to decide where their posts should go as well.
"My asking a question not only helps me get a few answers or ideas of direction, but it also helps to generate additional activity around here." - What's the difference in terms of activity if this was posted in an existing thread? I just made your argument void here because I doubt you can give me a response to this that helps your point.
If you weren't big on the idea of seniority you would have never felt the need to boast your ego with your forum stats either. I've been on forums for over 20 years with more than just member status, and I've never had a problem with gravedigging that doesn't promote spam. Any open-minded person would have enough common sense to see the facts.
Posts #2 and #3 from this forum I googled explain the exact reason why I don't consider it bad: http://niketalk.com/t/333526/gravedigging-can-someone-tell-me-why-is-it-so-bad ... I consider the typical idea of spam gravedigging bad. If you're incapable of thinking for yourself, I'm sure you'll still disagree however. Undoubtedly, it's still an enforced rule for stupid members that don't know when or when not to create a new thread or to post in an existing one. There are much larger forums than this that don't have a problem with it for these reasons, but that might be because they have a more mature memberbase too with people that are wise enough to decide where their posts should go as well.
"My asking a question not only helps me get a few answers or ideas of direction, but it also helps to generate additional activity around here." - What's the difference in terms of activity if this was posted in an existing thread? I just made your argument void here because I doubt you can give me a response to this that helps your point.
If you weren't big on the idea of seniority you would have never felt the need to boast your ego with your forum stats either. I've been on forums for over 20 years with more than just member status, and I've never had a problem with gravedigging that doesn't promote spam. Any open-minded person would have enough common sense to see the facts.
>> "You've yet to offer any actual useful advice or suggestions"
I've been waiting to provide a useful response to this thread, but you'd rather argue with me instead of providing answers to the relevant questions I've asked in this thread, so maybe colors and bold tags will help me ask this again: What are you trying to achieve in programming? -- This will determine the language any other programmer would suggest you to learn.
Therefore -- "You've yet to offer a RESPONSE to what I've been asking" for me to provide a proper post... That's on you. For the forum veteran you claim to be, I'd expect you to be able to read the full post before responding.
Learning a language because it's easy is a silly approach. It's also not impossible to start as a fresh programmer by learning a hard language like C++ (because I know people who have done it), even though you might be recommended to learn something like C# first, depending on what you want to program. Although, choosing a specific language requires more information to determine, hence why I haven't offered a response (and I've also already explained this previously too). Read my posts again? In full this time. :S
RE: whaaat? Another "What language should I learn" thead? For real? Damnit Roger... - roger_smith - 12-29-2016
(12-29-2016, 03:31 AM)bitm0de Wrote:(12-29-2016, 12:00 AM)roger_smith Wrote:(12-28-2016, 11:46 PM)bitm0de Wrote: If that's what you're really worried about (and I doubt that is the case here -- you more likely just wanted your own thread to have your own responses), then you could have just replied to one of the older threads with relevant questions you had in regards to the responses already given to expand on the topic, rather than starting from scratch and receiving the same types of responses over and over. Now that would make a bit more sense wouldn't it? Additionally, not only would newer members have the opportunity to respond to you directly, they would be able to respond to the replies already given to expand upon what has already been said in those threads (that you haven't read since you're posting this again).
Furthermore, you still haven't mentioned why you wanted to learn a new programming language or what you would be using it for -- but you would have seen which languages are best for certain things if you bothered to read the existing threads most likely too. If you're doing web development, you're not going to go with C++, and if you're doing desktop development you're not going to go with PHP... Hence the reason why I haven't bothered putting much thought into a relevant response for this thread yet.
lol this guy...
If you knew anything about the rules around here, you'd know that grave-digging is a thing that is frowned upon.
You're awfully triggered by my asking a question and starting a discussion on a discussion forum. How dare I, right? You've yet to offer any actual useful advice or suggestions.
I'm not big on "years of service" and seniority and all that, but this isn't my first run around on this forum. I'm a fairly well liked and respected member here, I spent about a year as a Moderator/Staff, and I know first hand how important activity is on this forum. My asking a question not only helps me get a few answers or ideas of direction, but it also helps to generate additional activity around here.
If this thread bothers you that much, the easiest thing is to click onward to the next one, and ignore this one.
Cheers friend.
Spoiler:
What's wrong with gravedigging an old thread if it doesn't do any harm? If there's contribution to an old thread, what's the difference over having a new thread with all of the same information in it? Explain why it's frowned upon? Also, I'm about 100% sure that gravedigging is frowned upon because of the fact that the majority of people gravedig without a purpose to say things like "thx", and not that gravedigging itself is bad. Sorry, but even SEO doesn't work this way either, so there's no difference (aside from the fact that people who have probably answered the previous threads like this will probably provide the same responses). Denying people from gravedigging altogether is like a safeguard to avoid the potential of people who don't know how to do it properly; bumping a thread for absolutely no reason. What if I created a thread where I released some software? Over 5 years of development you'd expect me to create dozens of new threads for each release with a short description on what I've changed? Lol... I can see you've thought this out well before just throwing the rulebook at me.
Posts #2 and #3 from this forum I googled explain the exact reason why I don't consider it bad: http://niketalk.com/t/333526/gravedigging-can-someone-tell-me-why-is-it-so-bad ... I consider the typical idea of spam gravedigging bad. If you're incapable of thinking for yourself, I'm sure you'll still disagree however. Undoubtedly, it's still an enforced rule for stupid members that don't know when or when not to create a new thread or to post in an existing one. There are much larger forums than this that don't have a problem with it for these reasons, but that might be because they have a more mature memberbase too with people that are wise enough to decide where their posts should go as well.
"My asking a question not only helps me get a few answers or ideas of direction, but it also helps to generate additional activity around here." - What's the difference in terms of activity if this was posted in an existing thread? I just made your argument void here because I doubt you can give me a response to this that helps your point.
If you weren't big on the idea of seniority you would have never felt the need to boast your ego with your forum stats either. I've been on forums for over 20 years with more than just member status, and I've never had a problem with gravedigging that doesn't promote spam. Any open-minded person would have enough common sense to see the facts.
>> "You've yet to offer any actual useful advice or suggestions"
I've been waiting to provide a useful response to this thread, but you'd rather argue with me instead of providing answers to the relevant questions I've asked in this thread, so maybe colors and bold tags will help me ask this again: What are you trying to achieve in programming? -- This will determine the language any other programmer would suggest you to learn.
Therefore -- "You've yet to offer a RESPONSE to what I've been asking" for me to provide a proper post... That's on you. For the forum veteran you claim to be, I'd expect you to be able to read the full post before responding.
Learning a language because it's easy is a silly approach. It's also not impossible to start as a fresh programmer by learning a hard language like C++ (because I know people who have done it), even though you might be recommended to learn something like C# first, depending on what you want to program. Although, choosing a specific language requires more information to determine, hence why I haven't offered a response (and I've also already explained this previously too). Read my posts again? In full this time. :S
tl;dr.
RE: whaaat? Another "What language should I learn" thead? For real? Damnit Roger... - vijayhackr - 10-22-2018
Its depend on your areas of interest. As a beginner, you need to start from the C, C++. For getting a very good job you can learn python as well.
RE: whaaat? Another "What language should I learn" thead? For real? Damnit Roger... - tomjones - 01-05-2019
Agreed! Also check out best python tutorials & books
RE: whaaat? Another "What language should I learn" thead? For real? Damnit Roger... - Hoss - 01-08-2019
Definitely keep on with Python, I still use it for automating random tasks here and there. I would suggest learning C, it offers great performance, simple syntax, and easy interop with Python. Best part about learning C though is that you can read other people's code, and there is a lot of C code out there. Some other languages I would say are good to learn are JavaScript (I hate it, but you can't get away from it), Go, and Rust (what I am currently using as my daily driver).