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RE: Are Sexualities Unnatural? - Esoterith - 07-09-2016

(07-09-2016, 12:31 PM)Cumslut Wrote:
(07-08-2016, 10:37 AM)Jay Wrote:
(07-06-2016, 05:19 PM)Nath Wrote: Like you mentioned, for humans to survive and evolve we need to reproduce. Therefore in my opinion I'd say anything other than straight is unnatural. Please don't kill me though. Sad(( I respect everyone, regardless of their sexuality.

Unnatural is such a vague word.  But in the wild homosexuality between animals is quite common so when it comes to natural or not, technically it is.

You may think it is or isn't in your own opinion but is it natural can be proven that it is.

Our world is over populated as is so do we really need to reproduce as much?

I highly respect you for your statement due to how you think it's weird but because of that factor you don't hate on the LGBT+ community.  You respect them with the respect they give you. Judging on personality not their sexuality.

The Earth is actually FAR from over populated, only thing wrong with us as humans, is that we just destroy shit all over the place, cut down forests, throw garbage everywhere, ruin the nature and kill animals in way too large amounts. But it is not even close to being over populated.

I saw this show on Disocovery planet, where they explained that we could actually fit the entire human race, yes, every 7 billion people on Australia alone. We'd even have decent amount of space too, I couldn't find or remember what it was exactly I watched, but here:

"Well according to the CIA world fact book, Australia is 7,686,850 sq km and the world has 6,790,062,216 people. This would allow for 884 people per square mile, which is smaller than, but pretty close, to Baltimore."

It's a little bit outdated as it doesn't have 7+ billion, but the point stays the same. Being able to fit everyone on Australia.. I don't think that qualifies as over populated. Just humans being greedy.

Everyone could fit in LA. But do we need more retarded people in the world? Lol

Well one of my points invalid. Biggrin


RE: Are Sexualities Unnatural? - yokai - 07-09-2016

Considering that this thread survived, allow me to come with my own views. (Yes, I did intentionally avoid doing so in the OP.)

The term "unnatrual" and "natural" are two terms created by humans by using a standard we know as "nature". In reality, this standard is ever changing and have been since the dawn of time. Humans didn't always walk on two legs, in-fact we didn't even always have legs as far as science is concerned. Yet humans are viewed as natural beings as we are from and off the nature around us. (We aren't created artificially, but rather naturally through intercourse of two opposite genders.) Because of this, we have earned the title of "natural". However, originally "natural" simply meant something in its original and natural form of existence. 

Humans today, are not natural in that sense. Our natural form would be where we started off, and since then mutations have occurred that led to human life as we know it today. We do not however, view mutation as natural today even though its a process of natural state. Homosexuality was most likely not a part of our genetic code when we first started out, and neither was any sexuality for that matter. We simply existed. In later time we've developed other mutations that have led to different things, such as walking on two legs, our brain functions, ability to live on land and many other things. We also developed sexuality as a means to survive.  

This concept switched out the "splitting yourself" idea as bacteria and cells do, and rather moved on to a "combine" nature. Because of that, gaining children through intercourse isn't really our natural state of being. Its what we view as natural now, even though it wasn't natural millions of years ago. Homosexuality can be viewed in the same manner, or any sexuality for that matter. Its a change in our DNA and alteration of our natural state of being. A mutation if you please, but its not something that is new or unique to humans. Its something that is apparent in other being and have been for decades. Developing such things is our body reacting to the course we've throw humanity into.

Our lives and they way we live them alter our bodies as well. Exactly what the cause of a mutation that developed sexual attraction towards others is unknown but there are always theories. For example, in the same manner as a transexual can state even though they are born female, they feel they should've been born male. In that manner a boy can say he was born with the sexual attraction towards males that a female should've had. That is one theory anyways. To answer my own question however. 

No, I do not think that sexualities are unnatural. At least not any more than walking on two legs, giving birth or having little to no hair on our bodies unlike monkeys.


RE: Are Sexualities Unnatural? - Cumslut - 07-09-2016

(07-09-2016, 12:34 PM)Jay Wrote:
(07-09-2016, 12:31 PM)Cumslut Wrote:
(07-08-2016, 10:37 AM)Jay Wrote:
(07-06-2016, 05:19 PM)Nath Wrote: Like you mentioned, for humans to survive and evolve we need to reproduce. Therefore in my opinion I'd say anything other than straight is unnatural. Please don't kill me though. Sad(( I respect everyone, regardless of their sexuality.

Unnatural is such a vague word.  But in the wild homosexuality between animals is quite common so when it comes to natural or not, technically it is.

You may think it is or isn't in your own opinion but is it natural can be proven that it is.

Our world is over populated as is so do we really need to reproduce as much?

I highly respect you for your statement due to how you think it's weird but because of that factor you don't hate on the LGBT+ community.  You respect them with the respect they give you. Judging on personality not their sexuality.

The Earth is actually FAR from over populated, only thing wrong with us as humans, is that we just destroy shit all over the place, cut down forests, throw garbage everywhere, ruin the nature and kill animals in way too large amounts. But it is not even close to being over populated.

I saw this show on Disocovery planet, where they explained that we could actually fit the entire human race, yes, every 7 billion people on Australia alone. We'd even have decent amount of space too, I couldn't find or remember what it was exactly I watched, but here:

"Well according to the CIA world fact book, Australia is 7,686,850 sq km and the world has 6,790,062,216 people. This would allow for 884 people per square mile, which is smaller than, but pretty close, to Baltimore."

It's a little bit outdated as it doesn't have 7+ billion, but the point stays the same. Being able to fit everyone on Australia.. I don't think that qualifies as over populated. Just humans being greedy.

Everyone could fit in LA.  But do we need more retarded people in the world? Lol

Well one of my points invalid.  Biggrin

If we need more people or not, that is a whole different matter, lmao.

(07-09-2016, 12:36 PM)Crow Wrote: Considering that this thread survived, allow me to come with my own views. (Yes, I did intentionally avoid doing so in the OP.)

The term "unnatrual" and "natural" are two terms created by humans by using a standard we know as "nature". In reality, this standard is ever changing and have been since the dawn of time. Humans didn't always walk on two legs, in-fact we didn't even always have legs as far as science is concerned. Yet humans are viewed as natural beings as we are from and off the nature around us. (We aren't created artificially, but rather naturally through intercourse of two opposite genders.) Because of this, we have earned the title of "natural". However, originally "natural" simply meant something in its original and natural form of existence. 

Humans today, are not natural in that sense. Our natural form would be where we started off, and since then mutations have occurred that led to human life as we know it today. We do not however, view mutation as natural today even though its a process of natural state. Homosexuality was most likely not a part of our genetic code when we first started out, and neither was any sexuality for that matter. We simply existed. In later time we've developed other mutations that have led to different things, such as walking on two legs, our brain functions, ability to live on land and many other things. We also developed sexuality as a means to survive.  

This concept switched out the "splitting yourself" idea as bacteria and cells do, and rather moved on to a "combine" nature. Because of that, gaining children through intercourse isn't really our natural state of being. Its what we view as natural now, even though it wasn't natural millions of years ago. Homosexuality can be viewed in the same manner, or any sexuality for that matter. Its a change in our DNA and alteration of our natural state of being. A mutation if you please, but its not something that is new or unique to humans. Its something that is apparent in other being and have been for decades. Developing such things is our body reacting to the course we've throw humanity into.

Our lives and they way we live them alter our bodies as well. Exactly what the cause of a mutation that developed sexual attraction towards others is unknown but there are always theories. For example, in the same manner as a transexual can state even though they are born female, they feel they should've been born male. In that manner a boy can say he was born with the sexual attraction towards males that a female should've had. That is one theory anyways. To answer my own question however. 

No, I do not think that sexualities are unnatural. At least not any more than walking on two legs, giving birth or having little to no hair on our bodies unlike monkeys.

I get the point that you're making here, but at the same time I also fully get the point that you were trying to make in the OP. 

That it to some extent, could be deemed unnatural due to us needing to reproduce and continue on our race, that it's somehow against our instincts, however. On the other hand, we aren't the only species that have shown signs of homosexuality, quite a few animals have actually shown signs of homosexual behavior.. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Also, if reproduction should be the reason why homosexuality is unnatural, we are capable of taking seeds out and putting them into the womb, so technically no one really needs to get intimate with each other anymore.. This I would of course deem very unnatural, especially compared to the subject we're on, but just saying, it's a possibility.